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Brutalform

JoHan 1963 Plymouth Fury Max Wedge

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59 minutes ago, SfanGoch said:

You'll be good to go using the Lindberg chassis and suspension for the '62 dart, '63 Polaras and the '62-64 Furys. They all used the B-body chassis with a 116" wheelbase. The '65 and '66 Furys were built on the C-body platform which had a 119" wheelbase. You can use the Moebius Mopar chassis or scarf up either of the Revellogram '68 or '69 Chargers. Some surgery will be required on these also because the '66-'70 Chargers were built on the B-body platform with 117" w/b.

Actually, there is very little modification needed for the '64 Dodge chassis to fit under the Johan '65/'66 Fury bodies.

The wheel base was perfect!

The only modifications required was a tiny bit of grinding, front and rear, to allow for bumper fit.

Granted, there were a ton of mods required to get the chassis and interior to fit up into the body correctly. but no problems with the wheel base.

The fender well/ firewall configuration on the Lindberg kits are incorrect for the Fury, but that's a whole other story. ;)

 

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I think Steve is right on the scoop making it look “too busy”. Looking online I’ve seen some of these super stocks with flat hoods, and decided to not use one in this build. A flat hood, with the dog dish wheels, black car, and red interior is the plan. It will have wider tires on the rear though. 

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I think the scoop was only put on by the factory on the lite weight versions, the rest wore no scoop. I think 1963 and older you had a choice of compression either 11.5 or 13.5 to 1also.

 

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6 hours ago, Brutalform said:

I think Steve is right on the scoop making it look “too busy”. Looking online I’ve seen some of these super stocks with flat hoods, and decided to not use one in this build. A flat hood, with the dog dish wheels, black car, and red interior is the plan. It will have wider tires on the rear though. 

Great choices Tom!

I will also use wider tires.

I'm thinking copper with a black and copper interior for mine.

 

 

Steve

 

 

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8 hours ago, BubbaBrown said:

I think the scoop was only put on by the factory on the lite weight versions, the rest wore no scoop. I think 1963 and older you had a choice of compression either 11.5 or 13.5 to 1also.

 

That makes perfect sense. I’m still learning about Mopar. This car isn’t going to be too wild to begin with. Now, the other cars I am planning will have fender well headers, and the scoops, representing the lightweight versions. 

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3 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Great choices Tom!

I will also use wider tires.

I'm thinking copper with a black and copper interior for mine.

 

 

Steve

 

 

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I’d say that interior looks ahead of its time.  Hard to believe it’s in a 56 year old car. Very nice color combination. Can’t wait to follow your build when it starts. 

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I wish I would have not seen this,I do have the 64 Dodge chassis with a damaged body and have the 63 around here somewhere.

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Got some time in on the Fury. Not a whole lot done, but at least there is some progress. Did some engine mock ups to get the carbs drilled, and the fuel system in place. I like to have everything in place, to avoid fit problems later on. Still have to decide on fuel filters, and the throttle linkage. 

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Was planning on these Moebius 65 Plymouth wheels. But after modifying the backs to accept the Lindberg wheel backs, the wheels were way too far in. So I decided on using the steel rims. 

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The Lindberg chassis has its flaws. One thing I dislike is the holes in the wheel backs are way bigger than the studs on the suspension components. Very finicky. This will be addressed with some new Evergreen rod. This will bring the rear slicks out closer to the wheel opening as well. Just a mock up to check the stance. 

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Also, the Lindberg floor pan in not ideal as it needed some work to have the wheels centered in the wheel openings. The front was fine, but the rear has the springs moved forward to make it centered. Then it required some rear wheel well work also. Probably not the best way to accomplish this, but it worked out pretty good. The styrene patch work is hidden by the rear tires. 

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Just an fyi, I think the chassis is different between the Lindberg 64 Plymouth versus the 64 Dodge.

I know for a fact the interior is different . even though they look the same until you put them side by side. , I want to say one is wider than the other

( learned this the hard way )

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Are you planning to replicate any particular car, or just a street car

 

 maybe a little inspiration for you.

 

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3 minutes ago, gtx6970 said:

Just an fyi, I think the chassis is different between the Lindberg 64 Plymouth versus the 64 Dodge.

I know for a fact the interior is different . even though they look the same until you put them side by side. , I want to say one is wider than the other

( learned this the hard way )

Yep. But that chassis can be shoe horned in there. I have an extra Moebius  65 chassis here and that one is super wide. 

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4 minutes ago, gtx6970 said:

Are you planning to replicate any particular car, or just a street car

 

 maybe a little inspiration for you.

 

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Since it’s a Fury with chrome trim and all, just a nice street car that would hit the strip now and then. I’m thinking on a blue exterior with a light blue interior. Just slicks and headers. No scoop or fender well headers. That will be on the other cars coming up. They will all be max wedge 413 and 426. A 62 Savoy, a 62 Dart, a 63 Dodge 330. I even have a 66 Dart too, with a 71 Duster under carriage. Probably get me a 340 for that one. 

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I’m really looking forward to the 63 Dodge 330. 

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, gtx6970 said:

Just an fyi, I think the chassis is different between the Lindberg 64 Plymouth versus the 64 Dodge.

I know for a fact the interior is different . even though they look the same until you put them side by side. , I want to say one is wider than the other

( learned this the hard way )

The chassis are different.

I found this out while contemplating various chassis for my '63 and '65 Furys.

The Lindberg Dodge 330 chassis is shorter that the Plymouth Belvedere.

The Dodge chassis fit perfectly under the '65, but the rear suspension needed to be moved slightly forward on the Plymouth chassis for the '63.

It didn't require any wheel well work on mine though.

 

 

Steve

 

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Was moving along on the engine, and I fixed the underside of the air cleaners so they would fit in the Carter carbs, and be removable. Found out they both won’t fit on at the same time, because of the kits intake is wrong. So I bought three manifolds from Missing Link, that will be replacing the kit part. Hopefully the top of the engine comes off easy. 

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Also painted the body with a  Duplicolor base, and a few coats of Testors clear. Plan on polishing it in another two days. 

Interior is Tamiya light blue pearl. 

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Great work! Looking forward to seeing this one finished.

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Oh man, I love this project! I did it to a rare JoHan '63 Dodge MANY years ago, but used the Lindberg stuff like you and it worked fine. Can't wait to see more of this Plymouth!  Here's my Dodge:5d1262f46d904_SCANS679.jpg.484f40c200dca4d070f53b814cd2e1b6.jpg

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Posted (edited)

Tom, your 63 looks great, you are inspiring me to finish my 63 Savoy Max Wedge, here are some pics. Too many moves in the last few years have put off some of my model projects. Glad to see you are using the Missing Link manifolds that I created for Kevin a few of years ago. I have been contemplating sending the body and parts to Kevin to cast as a resin kit, so I may have to dust off my project and finish it. Thanks for the inspiration.

 

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On 4/25/2019 at 12:36 PM, Brutalform said:

I have a choice of these three hood scoops. Looking online at some max wedge cars, it seems scoops are personal preference. I think the third one looks the best for this particular car. 

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The third scoop is a Max Wedge scoop.

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1 hour ago, High octane said:

The third scoop is a Max Wedge scoop.

100% correct Nick, '63/'64 MW only.

Scoop #1 is '64 (A864) & '65 (A990) Hemi only scoop (curved back is '64/'65 - flat back is '67 RO/WO Hemi)

Scoop #2 is the custom scoop from AMT '69 Chevelle kit.

 

Super cool project BTW !

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