stavanzer Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 After listening to this song for years, I'm motivated to Build the 413 Super Stock. Research tells me that it is a 1962 Dodge Dart. MCW Sells Resin '62 Dart Bodies. But, do I want a HardTop or 2Door Sedan? And, how good are MCW bodies? Lastly, did the 1962 Super Stock 413 Have the Long Ram Tubes, or the smaller Ram Induction Side by Side manifold? Thanks for the help. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I recently bought three MCW bodies, and they're very nice. Shipment was pretty quick, too. I was very pleased with price, quality, and delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, alexis said: A Lastly, did the 1962 Super Stock 413 Have the Long Ram Tubes, or the smaller Ram Induction Side by Side manifold? Thanks for the help. Alan 1962 Dodge ( and Plymouth ) 413 Max wedge: Only difference between Dodge versus Plymouth is the decal on the valve cover Dodge "Ramcharger 413" 413 cubic inches 410 horsepower (11.0:1 compression) or 420 horsepower (13.5:1 compression) Plymouth "Super Stock 413" 413 cubic inches 410 horsepower (11.0:1 compression) or 420 horsepower (13.5:1 compression Edited June 14, 2019 by gtx6970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) PS, 1962 is the ONLY year it was a 413. 1963 and early model year 1964 it was a 426. Mid year 1964 the Max Wedge was replaced by the Race Hemi 426 Either way. Whats not to love.. The Ultimate ZoomZoom,,,,,,,, imo Edited June 17, 2019 by gtx6970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Junkman Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Barring that you do this one with a red Viper. I'm held up because I can't find a proper Slappy Squirrel figurine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 "He's hot with ram induction but it's understood" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTrucker Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Seen that song put to the test and they have it backwards! Had a 63 Fuelie and it sucked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 Thanks for the information and pictures! Looks like I can source the Max Wedge 413 from the Lindberg '64 kits. Is there any way of knowing whether I should use the Sd or HT body? MCW offers both. Thanks, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollySipper Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I would use the sedan if it were me....... they have always had a more basic "utilitarian" vibe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Steven Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Are you sure that it was the Beach Boys and not Jan and Dean that sang about the" Shiny Red Super Stock Dodge" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 hours ago, J Steven said: Are you sure that it was the Beach Boys and not Jan and Dean that sang about the" Shiny Red Super Stock Dodge" Different song entirely, but yes J&D wrote and recorded that one (Leon Russell played piano, if you like trivia) and the BBs later covered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike999 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) Yep, that "brand new shiny red Super Stock Dodge" was driven by Jan & Dean's "Little Old Lady From Pasadena." Many years ago, some great modeler built a diorama inspired by that song. IIRC, the Dodge was backed into a "rickety old garage" full of clutter. Including a scratch-built washing machine. If anybody remembers who built that, please jog my memory. Edited June 16, 2019 by Mike999 goof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuces Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 5:10 PM, The Junkman said: Barring that you do this one with a red Viper. I'm held up because I can't find a proper Slappy Squirrel figurine. That was great!.... ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Another bit of trivia, with a personal connection: Back around 1984 or '85, Dr. Don Altfeld, the co-writer of "Little Old Lady..." came to my print shop (on Colorado Boulevard in Pasadena!) to get some copies. He told me he was reviving the Little Old Lady character as a proposal for an ad campaign... for Ford. I asked how the song would go, and he sang "Here in her garage where the kids all hang, is a brand new shiny red Ford Mustang!" Admittedly, Mopar wasn't producing any real performance cars then. His idea got some mention in the L.A. papers soon after, but nothing came of it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reegs Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 But the lyric shoulda been: But parked in a rickety old garage is a brand-new, shiny red, Ramcharger Dodge Just to be accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Reegs said: But the lyric shoulda been: But parked in a rickety old garage is a brand-new, shiny red, Ramcharger Dodge Just to be accurate. [EdMcMahonVoice] You are corRECT, sir! [/EdMcMahonVoice] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaxion Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 IRC , thew later BB recording had a '64 2dr Ht , not Polara in Red on the Cover if the 45 RPM Dust Jacket . IIRC . Red Tinted Windows . Mountain high Shifter for the Borg Warner T-10 . . My 2 cents Thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Haigwood Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 A little background for those that are interested https://macsmotorcitygarage.com/saturday-morning-cartune-the-little-old-lady-from-pasadena/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Haigwood Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) On 6/14/2019 at 1:05 PM, alexis said: After listening to this song for years, I'm motivated to Build the 413 Super Stock. Research tells me that it is a 1962 Dodge Dart. MCW Sells Resin '62 Dart Bodies. But, do I want a HardTop or 2Door Sedan? And, how good are MCW bodies? Lastly, did the 1962 Super Stock 413 Have the Long Ram Tubes, or the smaller Ram Induction Side by Side manifold? Thanks for the help. Alan Ram Induction on a 413 62-65 Max Wedge Exhaust system Edited June 17, 2019 by Jon Haigwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 Drat. So I need a resin copy of the Ram Tubes from the Johan kit. Well, I'll start looking for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTallDad Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 1:10 PM, alexis said: Thanks for the information and pictures! Looks like I can source the Max Wedge 413 from the Lindberg '64 kits. Is there any way of knowing whether I should use the Sd or HT body? MCW offers both. Thanks, Alan It was not uncommon for the HT and convertible to share the same body...the primary difference being the roofing material. That means the HT would have the additional bracing for rigidity and that means more weight. The Sd didn't have that bracing, and usually weighed less than its HT counterpart. That's why most performance cars of that era were sedans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Haigwood Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Reegs said: But the lyric shoulda been: But parked in a rickety old garage is a brand-new, shiny red, Ramcharger Dodge Just to be accurate. It would race in the Super Stock class, so wouldn't that make it a Super Stock Dodge after a sanctioned race ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, alexis said: Drat. So I need a resin copy of the Ram Tubes from the Johan kit. Well, I'll start looking for some. No. Use the small intake. The long ram manifold didn't fit under the hood. That's why a group of Chrysler engineers that belonged to a club called the Ramchargers developed the small manifold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Haigwood Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, my66s55 said: No. Use the small intake. The long ram manifold didn't fit under the hood. That's why a group of Chrysler engineers that belonged to a club called the Ramchargers developed the small manifold If you are following the song lyrics it's "He's hot with ram induction but it's understood" that would call for the Cross Ram but you can build anyway you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 It's a Beach Boys song. It's got more than one error. The Beach Boys were not car guys. The long ram did not come in the 62 Dodge Dart. It didn't fit. Read this on the Ramchargers 62 Dart that had the long ram intake installed. I saw this car personally in January of 63 at the Sunoco garage on north Woodward Ave just south of Teds. My buddy and I were cruising Woodward in his dad's Galexie 500 with a 406 tri-power, 4 speed and posi. We decided to take a look. He popped the hood and we had a good long look. http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/cgi-bin/pub9990327521141.cgi?itemid=9990440435271&action=viewad&categoryid=9920367363431 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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