BDSchindler Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) gravity Colors is out so who is a decent company to deal with for airbrush paints? Looking for Monterey Red Edited August 25, 2019 by BDSchindler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64SS350 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Why is Gravity Paint out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 For lacquers, Scale Finishes or MCW. Both offer great paints and the color availability is almost endless. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, 64SS350 said: Why is Gravity Paint out? Get a case of beer and read: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDSchindler Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 8 hours ago, 64SS350 said: Why is Gravity Paint out? Long story short, after personal dealings with them combined with other horror stories, I have formed my own personal opinion... They suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger74 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Did you check with scale finishes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pol Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Or check splash paints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Samuel S. is a standup guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty92 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Gravity of Spain is the good one though. But scale finishes and splash are good as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeBee Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I could get my paints a lot cheaper if I bought them from Gravity in Spain, but they require clear coating, I prefer paints that I can polish out, like the real vehicle would have been painted with, I tried Scale finishes, but that got stripped,as it never actually dried, and the paint actually had dust in it, so now I use nothing but MCW lacquer for all my American vehicles, they really are the best I've used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, GeeBee said: I could get my paints a lot cheaper if I bought them from Gravity in Spain, but they require clear coating, I prefer paints that I can polish out, like the real vehicle would have been painted with, I tried Scale finishes, but that got stripped,as it never actually dried, and the paint actually had dust in it, so now I use nothing but MCW lacquer for all my American vehicles, they really are the best I've used. Scale Finishes "Base Coat Lacquers" are virtually the same thing as MCW's. The paint that you got from Scale Finishes was very likely their enamel, which I have heard, does have drying issues. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel S Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 10:15 PM, SfanGoch said: Samuel S. is a standup guy. I heard my name! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeBee Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: Scale Finishes "Base Coat Lacquers" are virtually the same thing as MCW's. MCW Lacquer paints are not basecoats, including their metallic finishes, they polish up superb and no need for a clearcoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 hours ago, GeeBee said: MCW Lacquer paints are not basecoats, including their metallic finishes, they polish up superb and no need for a clearcoat Then my guess is that something has changed. None of my MCW paint jars say anything about "Gloss Lacquer" on the bottle, and there is no way you were ever going to polish any of the metallic colors that I have. Granted, I haven't bought any MCW paint for probably a couple of years, but I know that I have tried polishing an MCW metallic paint job on at least one occasion, and it didn't work. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACR-E Doug Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I was a Gravity guy but now Splash is my go to paint. Sam is a good guy to do business with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeBee Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: Then my guess is that something has changed. None of my MCW paint jars say anything about "Gloss Lacquer" on the bottle, and there is no way you were ever going to polish any of the metallic colors that I have. Granted, I haven't bought any MCW paint for probably a couple of years, but I know that I have tried polishing an MCW metallic paint job on at least one occasion, and it didn't work. I've never used MCW Lacquer until Mike took it over, as the old company wouldn't ship them overseas, I did actually ask him last week if the metallics needed a clearcoat or could they be polished, he told they polish out just like they would when they painted the real thing at the factory,as his paints are actually PPG Acrylic lacquer, this Chevelle i painted came out glossy straight out of the airbrush, and should look great with a little polish. Edited August 27, 2019 by GeeBee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, GeeBee said: I've never used MCW Lacquer until Mike took it over, as the old company wouldn't ship them overseas, I did actually ask him last week if the metallics needed a clearcoat or could they be polished, he told they polish out just like they would when they painted the real thing at the factory,as his paints are actually PPG Acrylic lacquer, this Chevelle i painted came out glossy straight out of the airbrush, and should look great with a little polish. Okay. I'll take your word for it. All that I can say is that on at least one occasion I tried to do some sanding and polishing on some MCW paint that I bought several years ago and the metallic "smeared" as it will with most 2 part paints. On at least one other occasion I tried to sand some boogers out of an MCW paint job and when I shot some clear over the top, the sanded areas completely changed colors from the rest of the paint and stuck out like a sore thumb. All of this means little to me of course, because I always clear coat regardless, so both MCW and Scale Finishes paints work the same for me. But all of that said, I can't say that I have any knowledge of the formulation of either product. All that I can offer is my personal experience. I do have to add though that so far I have found the Scale Finishes paints to be closer to the actual color chips than MCW. Not to say that MCW is not good paint, ( I used it for many years) I just noticed that my first order of Scale Finishes paints all looked like exact matches to the chip sheets and photos of the actual vehicles, while occasionally the MCW colors could be a shade off on one side or the other. Just another personal observation. Steve Edited August 28, 2019 by StevenGuthmiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bojaciuk Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I sent Splash Paint a question on a specific color I required. It was yesterday, Saturday. He responded promptly and I placed my order. I never expect a response on weekends. This was refreshing! I do believe we will be doing more business together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
426hemiman Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I also sell lacquer paints my paints is pure paint no thinner ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bojaciuk Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 My paint was supposed to arrive yesterday. USPS at its finest! It did arrive today Nd I am very pleased! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowe-t Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) On 8/26/2019 at 7:00 PM, StevenGuthmiller said: Scale Finishes "Base Coat Lacquers" are virtually the same thing as MCW's. The paint that you got from Scale Finishes was very likely their enamel, which I have heard, does have drying issues. Steve Jameston from Scale Finishes said all his paints are enamel based. I had asked him about his base his base coats. Edited November 29, 2019 by crowe-t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, crowe-t said: Jameston from Scale Finishes said all his paints are enamel based. I had asked him about his base his base coats. All that I know is that in his website "FAQ" section, he states that his paints are "professional grade solvent based automotive paints". I assumed that meant that they were acrylic lacquers. I'm no chemist, but when I crack open a jar of Scale Finishes "base coat", it smells exactly the same as the MCW lacquers that I have. I have not used the "gloss enamels" that he offers, but I assume it is different from the "base coat" or he would not offer 2 different types of paint. His "base coats" also spray, level, dry and cure in exactly the same way as MCW. For this reason I assumed it was basically the same stuff. For my purposes, it is. I only differentiate between the "base coat" and "gloss enamel" because I have heard from reliable sources that the enamel has drying issues. Steve Edited November 29, 2019 by StevenGuthmiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagerpm Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 For older cars I use MCW and for newer colors I use Splash. Both are American companies, so shipping is no problem for those in the US. Service from both is excellent. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 For lacquers check out Bob's Paints as they are great. bobspaintetc@gmailcom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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