Jantrix Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) I need 10 for a current project. I'm not going to pony up $20+ for two sets of aluminum ones. I'd prefer to make them if I can. I'd like to hear any methods you've come up with the properly flare the ends of either styrene or aluminum tube. Thanks. Edited September 6, 2019 by Jantrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Bacon Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Search on eBay for “uninsulated bootlace ferrules.” They come in all sizes, and I bought a set of 100 each in 6 different sizes for about £5. They’ll keep me in velocity stacks and exhausts for years... best, M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jantrix Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 Thank you both. Incredibly helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) Ron, Just round off one end of a regular metal axle, put it about 1/4 inch in the end of your aluminum and start working it around in circles, pushing the end of the aluminum out a little bit as you go around. Start with small circles and slowly increase the angle while slowly allowing the axle to come out a tiny bit each time. Eventually, the end of the aluminum will be flared out . Work slowly so it dosen't bend too much at once or rip the tube when it starts to get thinner as it flares out. You can then polish the tube with a bit of your favorite polish and cut to length. That's how I did these ones. Edited September 6, 2019 by Can-Con Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 9/6/2019 at 6:57 AM, Casey said: Nice thread. Last entry 2013 all of the listed sources sites are dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Greg Myers said: ... all of the listed sources sites are dead. Wrong. This one's still good. And it takes some effort on the part of the buyer to determine exactly what size to buy. https://www.alliedelec.com/product/altech-corp/2222-0-100/70078419/ Edited September 16, 2019 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said: And it takes some effort on the part of the buyer to determine exactly what size to buy. Yes it does. I measured the diameters of some plastic ones I had both at the base and at the flare to determine the size I needed. I did purchase some. I believe I got 12 and 14 gauge. After the intake is mocked up for the V10, I'll post up some photos in this thread. Most any website you look at for these SHOULD post up a data sheet for the part. By comparing your measurements to the data sheet specs on the parts, should help you determine what part you need. I recommend a digital micrometer. Thanks again for the advice, gentlemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Jantrix said: Yes it does. I measured the diameters of some plastic ones I had both at the base and at the flare to determine the size I needed. I did purchase some. I believe I got 12 and 14 gauge. After the intake is mocked up for the V10, I'll post up some photos in this thread. Most any website you look at for these SHOULD post up a data sheet for the part. By comparing your measurements to the data sheet specs on the parts, should help you determine what part you need. I recommend a digital micrometer. Thanks again for the advice, gentlemen. And thank YOU sir, for posting additional relevant specific data. Very helpful to have it right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 The problem with scale injector tubes is getting the right diameter. As I understand it, the real tubes were 2” in diameter. This reduces to .080” in 1/25, an odd size. 1/8” tubing is way too big as it scales to 3.125; 3/32” scales to 2.343” (the closest) and 1/16 scales to 1.562 (too small). The shoe eyelet chart shows .07 and .09 diameters—sadly, no .08. The .07 scales to 1.75”, while the .09 scales to 2.25” (although 2.16” in 1/24, which might look okay on some 1/24 engines). Evergreen makes lovely .080” styrene rod, but of course you have to hollow it out yourself, which is no fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, Snake45 said: The problem with scale injector tubes is getting the right diameter. As I understand it, the real tubes were 2” in diameter... Not all of 'em. And considering so many guys will run plug wires the scale size of garden hose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainford Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, Snake45 said: The problem with scale injector tubes is getting the right diameter. As I understand it, the real tubes were 2” in diameter. This reduces to .080” in 1/25, an odd size. Actually, .080" equals 2.0 mm, a size in which aluminium tubing is indeed readily available through hobby sources. K&S sells it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bainford said: Actually, .080" equals 2.0 mm, a size in which aluminium tubing is indeed readily available through hobby sources. K&S sells it. Exactly. It's fairly easy to bellmouth the tips, and cutting to final length after forming is definitely recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 48 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: And considering so many guys will run plug wires the scale size of garden hose... Two wrongs don't make a right. They just make two wrongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, Bainford said: Actually, .080" equals 2.0 mm, a size in which aluminium tubing is indeed readily available through hobby sources. K&S sells it. I have NEVER seen 2mm K&S tubing in any retail establishment in 50 years, but a check of their website shows they do in fact offer it. I'll need to check into finding an online source, and then order a bunch of it. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Using the data above. I purchased the 12 and 14 AWG ferules. I was able to accomplish this. These are the 14 AWG pieces. I'm pretty happy with them. I realize this intake I've created, likely has no basis in reality and/or isn't mechnically possible. This model is a slump buster and my usual requirement of mechanically "plausible" has been put on the shelf next to my empty bucket of free time. Besides this is the fourth attempt at something decent looking. Again, thanks very much for the assist gentlemen. I hope this has helped/will help someone else. BTW - the two bags of 100 pieces was less than the six bucks it took to ship. $12.25 total. Edited September 24, 2019 by Jantrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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