Biggest pet peeves on builds.

[LL3 Model Worx]

11 minutes ago, tbill said:

3....2.....1.....

Surely not a lock... that would be absurd and a bit premature I would think.

Some folks just don't like it when others are having fun and have to go ruining it. Like this guy.

Well, if the Gif don't work, its Reece Bobby getting thrown out of Applbees.

Edited December 5, 2019 by LL3 Model Worx

[Ben]

Seams running down the center of an oil pan and or transmission. Putting junk, inaccurate wheels on an otherwise great build!

[Dave Ambrose]

I thought of another pet peeve, and it really is a pet -- cat hairs. In the paint. And no, there will be no easy way to remove them. This beloved miscreant is the source. .

[Dave Ambrose]

1 hour ago, highway said:

Those complaints fall on deaf ears here because ever since any non commercial 4 wheeled trucks got moved to the truck section, those of us that are interested in the commercial aspect of modeling such as big rigs, emergency, and service vehicles have been complaining about the stock, off road, and hot rod styles of trucks and vans being in the truck section. It used to be exclusively commercial use vehicles and that is how it should have stayed and it has hurt that part of the forum for the ones that are exclusively into that type of modeling and been one of the pet peeves of many there since the change was made and is one of mine as well. I do build quite a bit of heavy commercial vehicles since I spent 18 years of my life driving one before medical problems ended my career, and before the change I went there for information on the latest and greatest on the newest news for that segment of the hobby, and while I do have interest in pickups also the section I used to go to for my main interest in the hobby is now flooded with nothing but pickups and things that hold less interest for me. 

Ideally, we'd put them in their own section. But, we already have too many subcategories, and I'm very reluctant to make more. That said, I see your point. 

[Snake45]

4 hours ago, 1930fordpickup said:

I understand your point but those caps have been out for decades, back to the 80's. 

So, still inaccurate for a '60s build. 

 

4 hours ago, LL3 Model Worx said:

But that rule of firing order doesn't always stand true... lots of different orders out there.... most fords are different.

But I get your point lol.

 

True. But that firing order will look sufficiently "busy" enough that most people won't bother to try to sort it out. They'll just see it's NOT "hair parted in the middle." 

[LL3 Model Worx]

1 minute ago, Snake45 said:

So, still inaccurate for a '60s build. 

 

True. But that firing order will look sufficiently "busy" enough that most people won't bother to try to sort it out. They'll just see it's NOT "hair parted in the middle." 

That is fair... 

Until that big brooding ford man is judging your model lol!!

Just kidding, I wouldn't know as I've never been able to attend a show.

[LL3 Model Worx]

15 minutes ago, Dave Ambrose said:

I thought of another pet peeve, and it really is a pet -- cat hairs. In the paint. And no, there will be no easy way to remove them. This beloved miscreant is the source. .

I feel your pain... I have two 3 month old kittens that INSIST on being on my lap while I'm at the bench...

No matter how many times I pet them and sit them down, they will not take no for an answer.

Got some hair in my primer just this morning! But its sanded out pretty easily non the less.

Now, them with the Christmas tree is a whole nother can of worms!

[MrObsessive]

Glass. Not much can drive me more bonkers than to have glass that's either ill fitting, or is so distorted that it takes away from the appearance of the model. I consider that to be like bodywork so I like glass that's as smooth and distortion free as possible.

It's one of the reasons I'll go through the trouble of either using clear stencil sheet for glass, or I'll make a buck and vacuform the works.

Glass was a MAJOR sticking point for me when I first saw Moebius's '61 Pontiac Ventura. The couple builds I had seen had the glass sticking up so far (should fit nearly flush with the roofline), that it looked REALLY out of place and prompted me to do a tutorial on how to fix that properly.

[CabDriver]

43 minutes ago, Dave Ambrose said:

Ideally, we'd put them in their own section. But, we already have too many subcategories, and I'm very reluctant to make more. That said, I see your point. 

Could we maybe relax the rule for hot-roddy pick-up type builds to just be posted in the category with the other hot rods without them being moved?  
 

No need for an extra category, less work for the mods who have to move them constantly because they’re in the ‘wrong’ place (because it’s the rule currently, which is fair enough - no complaints about that), the people building them are happy because they get to show them off with very similar builds, and the people who like ACTUAL commercial vehicles don’t have to see them ?.  Just a small change in editorial policy that might work well, in my opinion...

Either way, thanks for the work you and all the other staff do Dave - no complaints from me about how the place is run, just a thing that could make it even better easily, in my 2-cents worth of opinion

Edited December 5, 2019 by CabDriver

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 hour ago, Dave Ambrose said:

I thought of another pet peeve, and it really is a pet -- cat hairs. In the paint. And no, there will be no easy way to remove them. This beloved miscreant is the source. .

Ooooo!!

That's where I draw the line!

I have a 12 year old cat that has the run of the house.

She sleeps on our bed with us at night and she is permitted on virtually every piece of furniture in the house.

There are three places where she is not allowed!

My wife will not tolerate her on the kitchen counter, or dining room table, although we occasionally hear her jump down from one of the two while we are down stairs in the family room.

 

The third taboo is my hobby room!

She is not allowed under any circumstances, and she knows it!

I can sit in my shop and work for hours on end with the door wide open and she will lay outside the door looking in, but she will not enter.

She knows which side her bread is buttered on.

 

When I'm absent from the room, the door remains closed!

 

 

Steve

[Scott Colmer]

My pet peeve is also bumpy foiling. I also not a fan of lots and lots of photo etch fo photo etch sake. I remember one super detailed model that had the PE seatbelt bracket neatly anchored to what would be an aluminum wheel tub. 

I am guilty of at least two things:

1) The parted hair plug wires. And yes I believed I was using a reordered cap. I stole and HEI cap from an 80s Camaro to sell it.

 

2) I have always claimed I built my first model at...4. Don't throw things just yet. After reading all the skeptical posts, I wondered if I had exaggerated that story over the years. So I just called my 80 year old mom, who is still of sound mind. I asked her how old was I when I build my first model. She paused then said "Four." "It was a pretty simple one. As they got more complicated, your older brother had to help you with the instructions. After a while he told you you would have to do it yourself, so you learned to read so you could build models." I've heard that story before, but she never put an age to it. 

I do have some memory of that first model. I found it at the bottom of a toy box at my great grandma's house. It was a Black Widow that one of my uncles had discarded. The major parts were there but had come off. I played with it until I figured out how it went together. When my parents picked me up, they got a tube of glue and put me at the kitchen table with a lot of newspaper. There was also what I know now to be a Long John, but I could not figure it out because the heads on the side of the body did not make sense. Anyhow, one of the heads from the Black Widow floated around my parts box for decades. I remember it was was pretty warped from all the glue I used. 

So that's my story. I can see how it is possible that the family may have moved the age back a bit over the years, but I'm not going argue with my 80 year old Mom.

Scott

Edited December 5, 2019 by Scott Colmer

[kurth]

9 hours ago, Daddyfink said:

Plug wires that are even way too big to be heater hoses! And then there is the Angry Spider look! When the wires just form a huge arch over the engine from the distributor to the spark plug area. 

 

9 hours ago, Snake45 said:

Don't forget the Parted Hair Look, where all the wires on the left side of the engine come (in order) from the left side of the distributor and vice versa! (Yes I realize there are aftermarket distributor caps now that will actually do this.) 

Repeat after me: 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2! It really ain't that hard to do! 

You guys beat me to it. In scale, the wires are like garden hoses. 

[LL3 Model Worx]

26 minutes ago, kurth said:

You guys beat me to it. In scale, the wires are like garden hoses. 

I've been guilty of the garden hoses 3 times. But I'll never do it again.

On this build I was actually trying to replicate what was originally there, so wrong was right for once.

[iamsuperdan]

*sigh*

I really dislike these threads. no matter how innocently they start, there inevitably ends up being people who take general comments personally. And there are always people that loosely mask their disdain at other builders's style. 

I predict a lock in the near future.

 

And just like in the last pet peeve thread, I still want to build a kit that encompasses ALL of the peeves listed. See how many people get triggered. ?

[stitchdup]

18 minutes ago, iamsuperdan said:

*sigh*

I really dislike these threads. no matter how innocently they start, there inevitably ends up being people who take general comments personally. And there are always people that loosely mask their disdain at other builders's style. 

I predict a lock in the near future.

 

And just like in the last pet peeve thread, I still want to build a kit that encompasses ALL of the peeves listed. See how many people get triggered. ?

for that you just need to look at my escort rs1800 build, lol

[Snake45]

25 minutes ago, iamsuperdan said:

I predict a lock in the near future.

 

And just like in the last pet peeve thread, I still want to build a kit that encompasses ALL of the peeves listed. See how many people get triggered. ?

I hope not. (Lock.)

And somewhat like your imagined build, I want to someday do a '49 Merc custom with every modification, addition, and color that I consider hideous eyesores, and see how many positive comments I get on it. I'm betting it would be a LOT. 

[SfanGoch]

12 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

And somewhat like your imagined build, I want to someday do a '49 Merc custom with every modification, addition, and color that I consider hideous eyesores, and see how many positive comments I get on it. I'm betting it would be a LOT. 

Has anyone ever compiled a comprehensive list of American Psychiatric Association-approved, nonprovacative, generic, one-size-fits-all positive comments to use when posting responses about WIPs or "Under Glass" specimens?

Edited December 5, 2019 by SfanGoch

[LL3 Model Worx]

42 minutes ago, iamsuperdan said:

*sigh*

I really dislike these threads. no matter how innocently they start, there inevitably ends up being people who take general comments personally. And there are always people that loosely mask their disdain at other builders's style. 

I predict a lock in the near future.

 

And just like in the last pet peeve thread, I still want to build a kit that encompasses ALL of the peeves listed. See how many people get triggered. ?

Well, let's hope it doesn't get locked...

I didn't realize a thread like this existed when I created it. I obviously didn't mean to cause trouble, I just like to take a step back and have a laugh at the things I have both done and saw that bothered me and others.

If nothing else this thread has given me a fair amount of insight into what NOT to do on a build if I ever plan to show it either here or at a show/contest.

I however can see how I may have errored, not considering some folks may take the opportunity to take shots at other modelers... that's neither cool or mature at all.

We all build to a standard, and that standard can vary greatly depending on the individuals ability and desire... I myself am mediocre car modeler at best as most of my experience is in figures/armor and general painting.

But I am learning... quickly, especially after discovering this site and some of the excellent builders here.

I apologize for not foreseeing the potential "cause/effect" of this subject, I just thought it would be fun and educational.

Edited December 5, 2019 by LL3 Model Worx

[StevenGuthmiller]

35 minutes ago, LL3 Model Worx said:

I apologize for not foreseeing the potential "cause/effect" of this subject, I just thought it would be fun and educational.

You have to understand Leroy, that "every" discussion on this board can become contentious.

That shouldn't stop you from posting whatever subjects you like.

 

There are always going to be people who will denigrate a discussion as illegitimate.

Just because some don't like it, doesn't mean it is.

 

 

Steve

[iamsuperdan]

 

1 hour ago, SfanGoch said:

Has anyone ever compiled a comprehensive list of American Psychiatric Association-approved, nonprovacative, generic, one-size-fits-all positive comments to use when posting responses about WIPs or "Under Glass" specimens?

 

Unfortunately, that list is in the hands of the Easter bunny and Santa Claus, in the land of things that don't exist.

There will ALWAYS be someone that can't handle criticism of any kind, whether constructive or not.

That's just how it is. 

i think I can speak for the moderation team by saying that if you can offer constructive criticism in a thread in a positive way, we will not reprimand anyone if someone complains.  I'm not talking about butt-kissing or using kid gloves, but we're all adults, and I think most of us know how to be civil and polite. We don't have to be nice all the time, we just have to be grown ups about it.

 

1 hour ago, LL3 Model Worx said:

Well, let's hope it doesn't get locked...

I didn't realize a thread like this existed when I created it. I obviously didn't mean to cause trouble, I just like to take a step back and have a laugh at the things I have both done and saw that bothered me and others.

If nothing else this thread has given me a fair amount of insight into what NOT to do on a build if I ever plan to show it either here or at a show/contest.

I however can see how I may have errored, not considering some folks may take the opportunity to take shots at other modelers... that's neither cool or mature at all.

We all build to a standard, and that standard can vary greatly depending on the individuals ability and desire... I myself am mediocre car modeler at best as most of my experience is in figures/armor and general painting.

But I am learning... quickly, especially after discovering this site and some of the excellent builders here.

I apologize for not foreseeing the potential "cause/effect" of this subject, I just thought it would be fun and educational.

 

It's not a bad thread at all. It can be a fun discussion, but only if everyone behaves. Unfortunately, that just doesn't happen all the time.

 

 

 

[LL3 Model Worx]

30 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

You have to understand Leroy, that "every" discussion on this board can become contentious.

That shouldn't stop you from posting whatever subjects you like.

 

There are always going to be people who will denigrate a discussion as illegitimate.

Just because some don't like it, doesn't mean it is.

 

 

Steve

Yea I get it, but I do not wanna be the guy to cause unnecessary trouble or "rock the boat"...

That is certainly not why I joined this forum and exactly why I have never had any other (anti)"social media".

Guess I'll choose my topics a bit more judiciously in the future.

Too much negativity in the world already without unnecessarily creating the breeding ground for more. 

 

[Casey]

1 hour ago, LL3 Model Worx said:

I didn't realize a thread like this existed when I created it.

Here's the best way to search for an existing topic first:

 

It can be humbling for some to realize the topic or subject they want to discuss has already been discussed here on the forum, and their thought, or idea for a topic isn't original nor unique, but for most it's not an issue. To search for an existing topic shows you value other members' previous contributions, especially when what you want to discuss is not a time-sensitive. Many of the things we deal with in this hobby have changed very little over the last fifty plus years, from kits to tools to paints, so there's no harm in reading an older topic, hopefully finding the info you were seeking, and not needing to post  new topic. Sometimes just a reply to an existing topic, no matter how long ago it was created, gets the job done, if you have something of value to contribute. Some of the most valuable contributions are from members who post very infrequently, yet when they post, what they share is always worth reading.

[LL3 Model Worx]

4 minutes ago, Casey said:

Here's the best way to search for an existing topic first:

 

It can be humbling for some to realize the topic or subject they want to discuss has already been discussed here on the forum, and their thought, or idea for a topic isn't original nor unique, but for most it's not an issue. To search for an existing topic shows you value other members' previous contributions, especially when what you want to discuss is not a time-sensitive. Many of the things we deal with in this hobby have changed very little over the last fifty plus years, from kits to tools to paints, so there's no harm in reading an older topic, hopefully finding the info you were seeking, and not needing to post  new topic. Sometimes just a reply to an existing topic, no matter how long ago it was created, gets the job done, if you have something of value to contribute. Some of the most valuable contributions are from members who post very infrequently, yet when they post, what they share is always worth reading.

Understood...

I was just looking for some "real time" interaction with the community... that I'm extremely new in.

Looking up zombie threads is great for information/reference, but not so good for conversation.

But I'm starting to believe I'm in the wrong place for conversation, wich sucks because I have no one else to discuss the hobby with otherwise.

Oh well... back to work.

[Dave Ambrose]

11 minutes ago, LL3 Model Worx said:

Understood...

I was just looking for some "real time" interaction with the community... that I'm extremely new in.

Looking up zombie threads is great for information/reference, but not so good for conversation.

But I'm starting to believe I'm in the wrong place for conversation, wich sucks because I have no one else to discuss the hobby with otherwise.

Oh well... back to work.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. I don't think the last word exists on any known subject. Sometimes, it's useful to revisit older discussions and questions. Things change. Our understanding changes, and if we aren't different people than we were 3 years ago, we're not growing enough. 

[Tom Geiger]

1 hour ago, LL3 Model Worx said:

Yea I get it, but I do not wanna be the guy to cause unnecessary trouble or "rock the boat"...

Yea, Yea, Yea!  We know you came here just to cause trouble!   ?

No worries... we're having fun!   And those who take it all too seriously...... phhhhhhh!    ?