Scott8950 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 i recently bought this johan 63 fury that is supposed to be the original issue. im wondering if i should just clean it up and preserve it or kit bash it with the 330 s/s? what do you guys think? i have soaked it in super clean but done nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 I see it had that rare yellow exhaust system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khils Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Scott8950 said: what do you guys think? It's yours....bought & paid........Id say......do what pleases you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 I love seeing these old kits built especially when they are kit-bashed with upgraded chassis and engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tom Geiger said: I see it had that rare yellow exhaust system! thats the first thing that caught my eye lol ? 13 minutes ago, Khils said: It's yours....bought & paid........Id say......do what pleases you!! thanks 13 minutes ago, afx said: I love seeing these old kits built especially when they are kit-bashed with upgraded chassis and engine. so do i.. I've been back and forth with it. this is a few ideas i have if i decide to kit bash. i know the color me gone would be a phantom type build but i still like the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Anything to cover up that green... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 When I see an old original that is either very well done for the era or has a certain charm, I’m all about preserving it as a survivor. Your car wasn’t terribly significant and you had already soaked it anyway. The Johan bodies were very well done, but short comings were the typical limited detail on chassis and engine bay of the era as well as the one piece interior tub only fit for very short drivers. You are better off combining the best of both worlds.. classic Johan body and modern Moebius ( or Lindberg Dodge) innards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, Tom Geiger said: When I see an old original that is either very well done for the era or has a certain charm, I’m all about preserving it as a survivor. Your car wasn’t terribly significant and you had already soaked it anyway. The Johan bodies were very well done, but short comings were the typical limited detail on chassis and engine bay of the era as well as the one piece interior tub only fit for very short drivers. You are better off combining the best of both worlds.. classic Johan body and modern Moebius ( or Lindberg Dodge) innards. i am leaning that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 I know exactly what I'd do. I'd polish out that lovely green, then detail it with BMF and/or Silver Sharpie and put it on the shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 37 minutes ago, Snake45 said: I know exactly what I'd do. I'd polish out that lovely green, then detail it with BMF and/or Silver Sharpie and put it on the shelf. i have considered that but i really enjoy building vintage drag cars so im kinda leaning that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 If it's like most JoHan kits, it's a body and dash donor anyway. I say go for it and make something out of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 At the very least, if you do decide to bash it, save the interior if it's original issue. The later issues had an incorrect interior for a '63. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: At the very least, if you do decide to bash it, save the interior if it's original issue. The later issues had an incorrect interior for a '63. Steve its still soaking in the super clean but here's a few interior pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Scott8950 said: i have considered that but i really enjoy building vintage drag cars so im kinda leaning that way. You could actually do both--build a vintage drag car with an updated chassis and interior and still have the body in the polished green, maybe with decals on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 possibly but im leaning heavy towards the golden commando or color me gone schemes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Scott8950 said: its still soaking in the super clean but here's a few interior pictures That is the correct 1963 Plymouth interior. Later versions included an interior tub from another Johan Mopar. Don't remember which one, but the first give away is the center arm rest. The later versions had a split bench front seat with no arm rest. Likewise, the upholstery pattern is all wrong. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: That is the correct 1963 Plymouth interior. Later versions included an interior tub from another Johan Mopar. Don't remember which one, but the first give away is the center arm rest. The later versions had a split bench front seat with no arm rest. Likewise, the upholstery pattern is all wrong. Steve thanks for the info. I'm gonna use it in the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espo Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Scott8950 said: thanks for the info. I'm gonna use it in the build. I agree with those who suggest doing what ever you want with it. The only thing I might add is to consider using it to cast a few Resin versions for future projects. These cars were very dominant in drag Racing at the time and building the Melrose Missile and others sounds great. This would also give you the option of a street car also. Please post pictures of what ever you do with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 the resin is something I've never done before so i'd be afraid to attempt that. i will definitely post pictures. thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 In my opinion these kits were meant to be built. Personally, if I buy some model kit, it's going to be built whatever way I choose no matter how rare or expensive it is, after all, I'm a model builder, not a collector. With that said, I'd like to see that one built as an old Super Stock car like you were planning. It would be even better with the more detailed drivetrain and engine bay. So I'd say Go for it! I actually have the same kit, but mine is complete and unstarted. I haven't started on it yet, but when I do, it's going to be built also as an old Super Stock car with a better engine bay and chassis from some other kit (probably the Lindberg '64 Dodge, as I've bought a few of them as chassis donors). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapSat 6 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 Bash it! I think the first Color Me Gone car was a '63 Plymouth as shown, so I'm not sure it would be considered a "Phantom". It would be a unique build, as I don't think I have ever seen a '63 Built up as Color Me Gone car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, W-409 said: In my opinion these kits were meant to be built. Personally, if I buy some model kit, it's going to be built whatever way I choose no matter how rare or expensive it is, after all, I'm a model builder, not a collector. With that said, I'd like to see that one built as an old Super Stock car like you were planning. It would be even better with the more detailed drivetrain and engine bay. So I'd say Go for it! I actually have the same kit, but mine is complete and unstarted. I haven't started on it yet, but when I do, it's going to be built also as an old Super Stock car with a better engine bay and chassis from some other kit (probably the Lindberg '64 Dodge, as I've bought a few of them as chassis donors). i have a color me gone s/s im gonna use for a donor. 20 minutes ago, CapSat 6 said: Bash it! I think the first Color Me Gone car was a '63 Plymouth as shown, so I'm not sure it would be considered a "Phantom". It would be a unique build, as I don't think I have ever seen a '63 Built up as Color Me Gone car. i will have to research that and see what i can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) Bill is correct, didn't remember this one myself even though I spent pretty much time looking for different options for mine when I bought it. Edited December 26, 2019 by W-409 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, W-409 said: Bill is correct, didn't remember this one myself even though I spent pretty much time looking for different options for mine when I bought it. i just found that picture also, i never knew he ran a 63 Plymouth. i noticed its a post top and the golden commando is a hardtop so i might have to build the commando. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott8950 Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 if anyone needs a Johan 63 Plymouth chassis, engine and firewall let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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