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1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

I don't have an issue with it as long as the site retains the ability to "edit" topics and posts.

Steve, as you know I have spent several hours recently researching and reading everything I can about forum software packages. Every forum I have ever been a member of has at least a couple of quirks I just don't like. ProBoards has been the closest to what I want in a forum. The bad news is that FaceBook has put a hurting on old styled forums like this and mine over on ProBoards. New forum software packages that are loaded onto a person's own website are slim to none and Slim left the building. In addition, development and improvement on existing forum packages has slowed WAY down.

To get to my point, as long as ProBoards remains pretty much the way it is now, I think I'll just continue using it. The ability to edit every aspect of every thread posted is one of the keys to my happiness, I guess. On my forums, the members have the capability of editing a lot of things. What the members can't edit falls to me and I can pretty much edit anything I want. So I have to say that your concern is absolutely one of my own and I don't see any changes in that any time in the near future.

 

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1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

I appreciate the "niche" that Steve has provided on his board.

Call it what you want, the vast majority of what is showcased there interests people like me with those particular narrower interests.

I have never even visited half of the sections provided on this forum.

If you prefer, maybe you could just refer to it as "streamlined

Niche actually best describes what my CCIS forum is. If the use of the term "niche" is the hang up and is what is keeping guys from joining the forum, I'll agree to call it something else. Heck, I'll call it a purple, polka-dotted, wombat if that pleases the members of the forum. I put the forum up for the MEMBERS. Nobody starts a forum just for himself. At least I can't imagine anybody would do that.

Sure, "streamlined" would work too. To me, a forum that allows no aircraft, no watercraft, no motorcycles, no pickup trucks, no heavy trucks, and no vehicle manufactured after 1989 is more of a niche forum than simply streamlined, but I'm not one to argue fine points like this. I can live with saying Classic Cars In Scale is a streamlined forum restricted to cars manufactured before 1990. Works for me. Thanks, Steve.

 

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One further comment. I have stressed that both of my forums are there for the MEMBERS. If you have spent any time at all on either of my forums, you will have read at least once, but more likely a few times, that I want to know what the members want/need me to change. Right now I'm waiting to read comments from the members about pickup trucks. One member asked and I agreed to listen to the members to see what the majority wants. Now, in a case like this I won't make the change on a simple majority. To change the focus of the forum from classic CARS to include pickup trucks will require a 3/5 or 2/3 majority. And if that many members say they want pickup trucks added, I'll comply. I'll state right here that I won't be happy with that decision, but I will listen to my membership.

One final thought. Regardless of what you call forums like mine or any of several other similar, smaller forums, one of the key features is the lack of the typical office politic type problems that happen on "other" sites. If you have been a member of any of the "big" forums for any length of time, you will have experienced at least one episode of name calling, mud slinging, armchair experts that would argue with a dead man, etc, etc. The smaller forums just don't suffer that type of problem. I've been a member of multiple, small forums hosted on ProBoards and I have yet to see an ugly, name calling, political argument on any of them. Not one. I'm really thinking that can't be said by members of the "big" forums. Our forums are smaller, friendlier, and about ten times more responsive to member requests and problems.

Right now, I am aware of one, single problem that a member of my forum is having and I have tried to assist in resolving the issue. It turns out that the problem is not mine or my forums. He is using a third party app to access my forum. For whatever reason he is experiencing a small problem. The point is that as a member of one of my forums, I will respond to any question or complaint a member has well within a 24 hour period. I tell all members I will get to them within 24 hours, but that fact is that I login and check on things 8 to 10 times a day. I usually respond to things like new member requests within a couple of hours, but for sure within 12 hours. I feel that the administrator of ANY forum is responsible to his members to insure that the forum is up and running and no member has a problem, question, or complaint that hasn't been addressed within 6 hours or so, but definitely within a 24 hour period.

THESE are some of the benefits of belonging to one of the smaller forums. If you have any questions or problems with what I have posted, don't hesitate to contact me, either right here on this thread or via a PM. I'm reachable every day.

 

 

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On 5/9/2020 at 5:59 PM, Tom Geiger said:

Niche is a small area of interest. Dave Darby’s Survivor board... 

I'll have to check into that. Do you have a link to Dave's forum?

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I might also add that there are LOTS of guys like me that absolutely refuse to visit any Facebook page. I spent over 30 years working in the computing industry. I specialized for several years in computer and network security. Facebook and other social disease websites pose the greatest threat to computer and network security of anything, including using the Windows OS. Persons that run Windows and visit Facebook have a limited time before their PCs become so completely ate up with viruses, Trojans, and other malware  that they are no longer usable. If you choose to visit social disease websites, that's on you. Those of us that refuse to visit any of the social disease websites will have computers that work well for long periods of time.

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6 hours ago, Plowboy said:

Unfortunately, I don't belong to Facebook. Yet.

If you value your privacy and the security of your computer and network, you won't ever belong to FaceBook.

 

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I have been accused of several things recently including trying to somehow sabotage this forum by posting links to my forums. Staff kindly responded that they have no problem with it. Just a few, select members on here are bothered by it. I was also accused of improper forum etiquette. I take it with a grain of salt, then offer factual responses to incorrect statements.

I'll say this here. If I exhibited improper forum etiquette according to one or two members, just what do you call continuing to post responses about other forums on my thread? I am just guessing that Tom & Roger have NO IDEA about forum etiquette. If you two want to continue a merry conversation of your own, feel free to start your own thread. No, I won't cry to staff. I address my conflicts directly. If you have a problem with me, or anything I do, feel free to send a PM to me directly and we can discuss this further. Otherwise, please take your conversation somewhere other than my thread.

 

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1 hour ago, smhardesty said:

I'll say this here. If I exhibited improper forum etiquette according to one or two members, just what do you call continuing to post responses about other forums on my thread? I am just guessing that Tom & Roger have NO IDEA about forum etiquette. If you two want to continue a merry conversation of your own, feel free to start your own thread. No, I won't cry to staff. I address my conflicts directly. If you have a problem with me, or anything I do, feel free to send a PM to me directly and we can discuss this further. Otherwise, please take your conversation somewhere other than my thread.

 

So, it's OK for you to post a link to your forum on Gregg's forum. But, it's not OK for Tom and I to briefly discuss another forum in your thread on Gregg's forum? Yeah, right. I haven't said a word about your etiquette. Your actions do that. I also haven't reported your thread or went to staff. So get your facts straight before you post about me.

If people want to join your forum. That's fine. I don't care. Nothing to me if everyone here joined it. I sure won't be joining it.

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Talk about being a little touchy, and a little dense as well. You instructed me to get my facts straight. You stated that you "haven't said a word about your etiquette". You then also request that I get my facts straight. I'm going to take this opportunity to embarrass you in front of God and everybody.

Could you please supply a direct quote from my posts where I stated that YOU sent me an email or that YOU said anything about my etiquette? Where is that? I don't seem to find it. Hmmm. Yep. Get your facts straight before you fire the first shot. You can attempt to rectify your obvious mistake, but it ain't gonna work PLOWBOY. PLOWBOY? WaaHaaaHaaaa!!!

What I actually said was that you and Tom have no idea of forum etiquette. I NEVER said you stated anything about my etiquette. I'm guessing PLOWBOYs from Kentucky have some degree of difficulty in reading comprehension. (I can explain that if need be.)

 

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1 hour ago, Plowboy said:

So, it's OK for you to post a link to your forum on Gregg's forum. But, it's not OK for Tom and I to briefly discuss another forum in your thread on Gregg's forum? Yeah, right.

If this member could in fact stand behind his words, he would no longer visit nor continue to be a member of this large, less friendly, and less responsive forum.

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Gee, it kinda goes like this...

Both Steve Guthmiller and I suggest that your board is too mainstream and that you need a niche appeal to gain members.  

I give examples of some very active niche sites..

Dave Darby's Scale Survivors -  3,636 members 

Terry Jessee's Resin Car Kits & Parts Review - 2,993 members

Your board - maybe five members, all names you pirated from this board...

and instead of investigating the ideas, you go flying off the handle ranting about Facebook and calling me names....

Which tells me about the maturity level of moderation we'll be subject to on a board you moderate! 

My work here is done!

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1 hour ago, Tom Geiger said:

Both Steve Guthmiller and I suggest that your board is too mainstream and that you need a niche appeal to gain members. 

Sorry Tom, but that wasn't my contention at all.

I stated that I appreciated the theme of the site.

I never said that I thought that it was too mainstream to gain members.

 

Sorry, but I thought that I had better point out that fact.

 

 

 

 

Steve

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Glad to hear your work is done. You obviously suffer the very same reading comprehension problem the other yokel does. Steve G is fully capable of responding and clarifying anything he believes needs so done. I have just now re-read all of Steve's posts. Just where in the Hell do you see anywhere that he said that he "suggests that your board is too mainstream and that you need a niche appeal to gain members"? I can absolutely guarantee you Steve never said that, never implied that, and will probably take exception to you saying he did. I won't continue with this because Steve will make any comments he feels are necessary.

I'm telling you that you have a real problem with comprehending what it is you read. You both seem to recall things that never happened and don't exist. That HAS to be because you have difficulties in fully understanding what you read. I suggest either spending more time reading each post to try and understand, or you might want to call in a wife or girlfriend that has better comprehension than you.

Now I have a couple of questions for you. Do you have any authority on this forum? It's either yes or no, and I know the answer. Second, does Xingu have any authority on this forum. Again, yes or no and I know the answer. Here is a direct quote from Xingu: "It's OK, we allow it. We will keep the light on for you when you return.". Now, being aware that you have the comprehension problem, I'll explain that to you. One of the moderators of this forum specifically stated that my thread announcing my new forum is perfectly acceptable on this forum. It's at that exact moment that you and those like you need to shut the Hell up. You have NOTHING in this discussion. Can you understand that?

I very intentionally and deliberately did NOT cancel my membership in this forum. It's for the very reason Xingu stated. He said he'd leave the light on. OK, I'll explain that to you. What he meant was that if and/or when I got tired of other forums, I was welcome back here. I'm sorry to have to tell Xingu that there is no way I would spend any serious time on this forum yet. You and those like you are the reason. You don't have the good sense God gave a gnat, let alone a human being. No, I really don't enjoy having to shut people like you down. It brings me no satisfaction whatsoever.

So, let's look at the entire situation. I announced my forum on this thread. Casey was the first to bashfully attempt to cause trouble for me and this thread. Making the statement he did served absolutely NO useful purpose other than to maybe get a moderator to axe my thread. Period. Steve G immediately defended my right to post the thread. Go back and read it if you don't believe me, or have somebody else read it to you. wrenchr agreed with Steve. See? Nobody is having a problem with it,. Gee, DrKerry agreed with both of them. OH MY GOD! Two more guys, classicgas and unclescott58 don't see any problems. Then, finally, Xingu officially stated there IS NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT I DID!

Then along you and PLOWBOY (WaaHaaaHaaaa) come along and want to stir BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH on my thread. So my advice to you and PLOWBOY is to stay the Hell off my threads. Can I make it any plainer? Get your wives and girlfriends to explain it to you.

 

And with THAT, for all the rest of you guys that might find another, small, niche type forum pleasant compared to all this childish bullcrap, please feel free to join the growing membership at   https://classiccarsinscale.proboards.com/

 

 

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HAH! Steve got in there before I could finish and post. I was pretty sure he would.

Thanks, Steve.

 

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I remain neutral in this discussion.

I just wanted to be sure that everyone understood what my original thoughts were.

I will leave it to the parties in question to fight it out.

I would rather not be involved.

Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

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2 hours ago, smhardesty said:

Glad to hear your work is done. You obviously suffer the very same reading comprehension problem the other yokel does. Steve G is fully capable of responding and clarifying anything he believes needs so done. I have just now re-read all of Steve's posts. Just where in the Hell do you see anywhere that he said that he "suggests that your board is too mainstream and that you need a niche appeal to gain members"? I can absolutely guarantee you Steve never said that, never implied that, and will probably take exception to you saying he did. I won't continue with this because Steve will make any comments he feels are necessary.

I'm telling you that you have a real problem with comprehending what it is you read. You both seem to recall things that never happened and don't exist. That HAS to be because you have difficulties in fully understanding what you read. I suggest either spending more time reading each post to try and understand, or you might want to call in a wife or girlfriend that has better comprehension than you.

Now I have a couple of questions for you. Do you have any authority on this forum? It's either yes or no, and I know the answer. Second, does Xingu have any authority on this forum. Again, yes or no and I know the answer. Here is a direct quote from Xingu: "It's OK, we allow it. We will keep the light on for you when you return.". Now, being aware that you have the comprehension problem, I'll explain that to you. One of the moderators of this forum specifically stated that my thread announcing my new forum is perfectly acceptable on this forum. It's at that exact moment that you and those like you need to shut the Hell up. You have NOTHING in this discussion. Can you understand that?

I very intentionally and deliberately did NOT cancel my membership in this forum. It's for the very reason Xingu stated. He said he'd leave the light on. OK, I'll explain that to you. What he meant was that if and/or when I got tired of other forums, I was welcome back here. I'm sorry to have to tell Xingu that there is no way I would spend any serious time on this forum yet. You and those like you are the reason. You don't have the good sense God gave a gnat, let alone a human being. No, I really don't enjoy having to shut people like you down. It brings me no satisfaction whatsoever.

So, let's look at the entire situation. I announced my forum on this thread. Casey was the first to bashfully attempt to cause trouble for me and this thread. Making the statement he did served absolutely NO useful purpose other than to maybe get a moderator to axe my thread. Period. Steve G immediately defended my right to post the thread. Go back and read it if you don't believe me, or have somebody else read it to you. wrenchr agreed with Steve. See? Nobody is having a problem with it,. Gee, DrKerry agreed with both of them. OH MY GOD! Two more guys, classicgas and unclescott58 don't see any problems. Then, finally, Xingu officially stated there IS NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT I DID!

Then along you and PLOWBOY (WaaHaaaHaaaa) come along and want to stir BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH on my thread. So my advice to you and PLOWBOY is to stay the Hell off my threads. Can I make it any plainer? Get your wives and girlfriends to explain it to you.

 

And with THAT, for all the rest of you guys that might find another, small, niche type forum pleasant compared to all this childish bullcrap, please feel free to join the growing membership at   https://classiccarsinscale.proboards.com/

 

 

If this is indication of how the new site is run I'll pass.

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Well, we didn't mind when you advertised your forum here. The hobby is large enough for multiple forums. Now you not only bash this forum in nearly all your posts, but you attack long standing members here, who were actually supporting your site. For many here, you just showed your true colors and intentions. So we will just go ahead and lock this thread down. Guys, you will not see smhardesty around anymore.

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