bobthehobbyguy Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I have confidence that Dave sill get a handle on this. I'm curious for thise that had the full ad is it doing the sme in a topic thread. Also what browser is being run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 41 minutes ago, Casey said: The solution has existed for years-- run an ad blocker-- but some members are too arrogant to do so: "I don't need to worry about installing an add blocker on any other forum. I shouldn't need to have one here either." I seem to recall at some point the mods asking us NOT to run ad blockers, so the site could get its ad views up, which would help with site expenses. This is why I don't run one, not "arrogance." Or did I just imagine this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xingu Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 56 minutes ago, Casey said: The solution has existed for years-- run an ad blocker-- but some members are too arrogant to do so: "I don't need to worry about installing an add blocker on any other forum. I shouldn't need to have one here either." The problem is you continue to let them publicly complain about something they could have resolved long ago. Don't make their arrogance everyone else's problem. They aren't arrogant, they are being supportive and we ask them to let us know when the ad layouts change. Most folks are trying to to help support the site by keeping the ad revenue coming in. We are trying to find the middle ground with what is tolerable with the ads, but Google keeps changing the rules and not letting us know about it. The ads do seem to be effect folks differently though, as I have never seen some the ads like most recently posted. Folks do know that they can reinstall an ad blocker if they find the ads too obtrusive. We have had some preliminary discussions on a add free subscription to the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Xingu said: They aren't arrogant, they are being supportive and we ask them to let us know when the ad layouts change. Most folks are trying to to help support the site by keeping the ad revenue coming in. We are trying to find the middle ground with what is tolerable with the ads, but Google keeps changing the rules and not letting us know about it. The ads do seem to be effect folks differently though, as I have never seen some the ads like most recently posted. Folks do know that they can reinstall an ad blocker if they find the ads too obtrusive. We have had some preliminary discussions on a add free subscription to the site. Maybe arrogant wasn't the right word. I use an ad blocker which also blocks trackers. These trackers are what determine what ads you see. I changed my internet tv access to a Roku streamer about 2 years ago. Many channels will allow access without ads for a nominal monthly $2 on fee. I would not be adverse to the ability to contribute a small yearly fee of $25 in support of the site. Edited April 14, 2020 by my66s55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, my66s55 said: Maybe arrogant wasn't the right word. I use an ad blocker which also blocks trackers. These trackers are what determine what ads you see. I changed my internet tv access to a Roku streamer about 2 years ago. Many channels will allow access without ads for a nominal monthly $2 on fee. I would not be adverse to the ability to contribute a small yearly fee of $25 in support of the site. My point is simple. We should be able to afford ourselves the luxury of ad free access and still be able to contribute to the on going access to this forum. The year is 2020. It's time the admin moves to this time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 At this point in time let's give Dave a chance to investigate to find a balance on the ads. As he has said those revenues pay for the site. If you absolutely can't stand the ads then use an ad blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat32 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) Once I found this forum I created a one click favorites link directly to it and totally forgot about it's host website. Hadn't been to Model Cars Magazine for over a year and a half. Lot of stuff there, including various forms of ads it seems. Mentioning this because, as far as I can tell, once I use my direct favorites link to get here, there is no obvious link on the forum page to the host site, which is more interesting than I realized. Seems to me a dedicated ad promoting and linked to the host site could suffice and allow the forum to exist free of banner ads. The Model Cars Magazine link at the top of this page is currently a link to the forum page, NOT a link to the magazine. Edited April 14, 2020 by Flat32 clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 This forum is hosted by the Model Cars magazine - no ifs or buts about it. The URL also shows that clearly: http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/ So there is no reason to link from the forum back to the top page of the magazine's website - it is all the same website. But since you asked, there is a "Subscriibe" button on the top of every forum page which brings you to the MCM's subscriptions page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat32 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Internet security people often advise avoiding "subscribe" links. It's a poor way to get to the Host site. Just needs to have (/forum) deleted from the existing lnk at the top of the forum page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, Flat32 said: Internet security people often advise avoiding "subscribe" links. It's a poor way to get to the Host site. Just needs to have (/forum) deleted from the existing lnk at the top of the forum page. I'm not saying that you have to click on it. If you hover over it, you will see that is points to the parent modelcarsmag.com site. You were stating that this forum didn't seem to be part of the magazine's website - I just pointed out that it is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat32 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, peteski said: You were stating that this forum didn't seem to be part of the magazine's website Not so. I just now edited to clarify what I really said.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 No ads for me. I use two different blockers, as I just will not have ads, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 9:24 PM, Snake45 said: Good heavens, what's the product in THAT ad? Venetian blinds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ambrose Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I tweaked the settings again. They should be better. I'm sure you'll let me know if they aren't. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuces ll Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Thanks again Dave!..... ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espo Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I hope I don't jinx this, but they don't seem so bad today. Yesterday I had to get off early since I could hardly find what I was trying to click on. Very thankful today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 9:50 AM, Casey said: The solution has existed for years-- run an ad blocker-- but some members are too arrogant to do so: "I don't need to worry about installing an add blocker on any other forum. I shouldn't need to have one here either." The problem is you continue to let them publicly complain about something they could have resolved long ago. Don't make their arrogance everyone else's problem. Isn't that going a little over board? I could just as easily call you arrogant for suggesting that the rest of us are so stupid that we can't figure out how to deal with a problem like this. The point is that this is NOT our problem. It's the problem of the board administrators who need to keep the site accessible maneuverable and readable for anyone who wishes to come here whether they are a member or a looker and whether they have an add blocker or not. I don't need an add blocker for the hundreds of other sites that I visit. I'm not going to install one for one site. Please don't put this on the members. It's not our responsibility to fix an obvious board problem that NEEDS to be fixed. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 20 hours ago, bobthehobbyguy said: At this point in time let's give Dave a chance to investigate to find a balance on the ads. As he has said those revenues pay for the site. If you absolutely can't stand the ads then use an ad blocker. Adds are one thing. This is not acceptable under any circumstance, and I think that we can agree on that. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 10 hours ago, Dave Ambrose said: I tweaked the settings again. They should be better. I'm sure you'll let me know if they aren't. ? Yes, thank you Dave! Things are looking much more acceptable today. We appreciate your vigilance! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/13/2020 at 11:56 AM, Snake45 said: I have come to loathe the emu as much I hate the lizard and Flo combined. But I would rather watch six commercials featuring all three of them than that drug one with the Alphonso guy again. Yes! I’ve had more than enough of Alphonso! He needs to go! i haven’t seen the Venetian blind ad view at all. I’m on iPhone now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, Tom Geiger said: Yes! I’ve had more than enough of Alphonso! He needs to go! I don't know if Alphonso is a "real person" or if it's an actor WAY overplaying the part. Either way, he creeps me out worse than the creepy giant-headed Burger King! Another annoying drug commercial is the woman who's the director of a high school or college marching band. It's obvious from watching this commercial that neither that actress nor the commercial's director has ANY experience in school band or playing an instrument of any kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89AKurt Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Okay, this is getting personal... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 14 hours ago, Dave Ambrose said: I tweaked the settings again. They should be better. I'm sure you'll let me know if they aren't. ? Thanks Dave. Your time keeping the site working is appreciated. I have confidence that you will figure out the issue. Definitely a strange issue. Side note. If the members are going to get upset about a free site. Can't image the flak if they were paying for access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I use an adblocker on my laptop. I see ads on my phone, they aren't too intrusive. The continuing issue I see is that I view "unread content" threads, and occasionally, like today, I see what look like private messages showing up in the most recent search. Examples old and new: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xingu Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Zoom Zoom said: I use an adblocker on my laptop. I see ads on my phone, they aren't too intrusive. The continuing issue I see is that I view "unread content" threads, and occasionally, like today, I see what look like private messages showing up in the most recent search. Examples old and new: What you are seeing are status updates. It's when someone uses a persons profile page, not private messages, to communicate. If you hover over the the little person icon to the left it will show what the activity is from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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