‘65 A/FX Satellite rear floor - carpeted?

[Matt T.]

On the Golden Commandos white mule, is the rear interior floor carpeted? An internet search turned up nothing. Thanks. 

[1972coronet]

Not sure about that particular A/FX ; however , it would appear that there's some carpeting in the rear (likely , and ostensibly , cut-back a little) . 

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/969251/1965-plymouth-belvedere-a-fx-for-sale-in-indianapolis-indiana-46205

Note that this car appears to have been an automatic originally ( note its shift quadrant on the column ) , and that it had was appears to be a Verti-Gate or Ram-Rod shifter (no 'reverse-lockout' lever ; those weren't required until 1968).

[1972coronet]

Let me try the link again : https://classiccars.com/listings/view/969251/1965-plymouth-belvedere-a-fx-for-sale-in-indianapolis-indiana-46205 

[Matt T.]

Thanks!  Great help. 
 

I’m going to go with a darker red carpet than the upholstery, like this factory stock version:

Edited April 14, 2020 by Matt T.

[1972coronet]

That looks like the Satellite (RP) interior . The 'RO51' Belvedere Super Stock were all equipped with the gold-ish interior . 

Build it to your taste , of course , but red wasn't available with the 1965 A-990 .

[Matt T.]

Interesting.
 

The Model King kit of the altered wheelbase car states that the early white car had a red interior. 

[Mike 1017]

IMO . When they had to install a roll bar all the carpet was probably yanked out and never put back in. 

[MeatMan]

From what I know about the 65 and 66 AFX rules, they had to have carpet and two seats.

The next gen AFX cars went straight weight savings and were the predecessors of funny cars with the full race setup.

[Straightliner59]

I would guess that the vast majority of the FX/altered wheelbase cars were virtually gutted, if not from the outset, very shortly, thereafter. Weight was "the great satan", and anything you could do to get rid of it would be done, especially if it was something as simple as tearing out carpet! It's one step--"tear it out!" ?

[Brutalform]

Couple of pics of the Lee Smith car from the auction. I’m sure it was restored it to the most original state, including the interior. 

[Matt T.]

Thank you, everyone, for the interesting discussion, viewpoints, and images. 
 

I am going to go the route like the pictures provided: Painted wheelhouses, “carpeted” floor section, and “fiberboard” for the trunk panel/package shelf. I hope to achieve this by using varied shades of Tamiya acrylics. 
 

Thanks again! 

[Mike 1017]

Thank you I stand corrected 

Mike

[Brutalform]

On 4/15/2020 at 10:27 AM, MeatMan said:

From what I know about the 65 and 66 AFX rules, they had to have carpet and two seats.

The next gen AFX cars went straight weight savings and were the predecessors of funny cars with the full race setup.

Didn’t they also require some sort of exhaust system to be in place? But it was easily disconnected?  The Ford Thunderbolt had to have one to meet the rules. 

[gtx6970]

Im pretty sure they had carpeting , But no jute backing on it.

 

As far as the Mule having red interior ,,,I'm not sure. But Ive heard that before

 

But in this pic , it sure looks like red to me

 

Found it here

https://www.facebook.com/groups/462920647242203/

 

[1972coronet]

Interesting that the mule has red interior (no disputing that point) , as I thought that red was "reserved" for the Coronet 'WO51' of 1965 .

Side Bar : I wonder why the quarter "wind wings" windows were eliminated during the Amblewagon modifications ? Was that a concession to the Lexan (?) door glass ? Weight-reduction ? 

I also wonder about what appears to be either a Ram-Rod or Verti-Gate shifter . I know that those 833's were "Slick-Shifted" ( a/k/a , "Crash-Box" ) --- when did those "gate" shifters appear ? 

[MeatMan]

On 4/16/2020 at 1:42 PM, Brutalform said:

Didn’t they also require some sort of exhaust system to be in place? But it was easily disconnected?  The Ford Thunderbolt had to have one to meet the rules. 

No exhaust, at least for 65 on.

[MeatMan]

On 4/15/2020 at 10:35 AM, Straightliner59 said:

I would guess that the vast majority of the FX/altered wheelbase cars were virtually gutted, if not from the outset, very shortly, thereafter. Weight was "the great satan", and anything you could do to get rid of it would be done, especially if it was something as simple as tearing out carpet! It's one step--"tear it out!" ?

Not for AFX, they had to keep a semblence of stock for 65/66. Now as previously posted the carpet didn't have any backing, and I'm sure the seats had a lot of inner working pulled out but the rules called for them. In my research I was able to photograph a real one and it was all there. The Quiet One II unrestored.

Edited April 17, 2020 by MeatMan

[gtx6970]

On 4/16/2020 at 10:42 AM, Brutalform said:

Didn’t they also require some sort of exhaust system to be in place? But it was easily disconnected?  The Ford Thunderbolt had to have one to meet the rules. 

Exhaust was a SS class rule. Not required  on the AFX class cars ,,,also,,,keep in mind the AFX class cars were relegated to match race cars pretty quickly after introduction

[Straightliner59]

8 hours ago, MeatMan said:

Not for AFX, they had to keep a semblence of stock for 65/66. Now as previously posted the carpet didn't have any backing, and I'm sure the seats had a lot of inner working pulled out but the rules called for them. In my research I was able to photograph a real one and it was all there. The Quiet One II unrestored.

 

I stand corrected. I was thinking of the later altered wheelbase cars that morphed into FCs.

[1972coronet]

"__ / FX " had to be current-model-years vehicles only . After the end of the year , they were relegated to other classes .

[drag racer 15]

Remember, the white golden commandos car was a test mule. So it is possible that it had a red interior because it wasn’t the A990 interior. Also remember that no 2 pictures of a car are the same because drag racing was progressing at light speed. So the cars were changing on a weekly basis. 
Here is an interesting summary of the process Chrysler did to convert the cars into A/FX drag racers.

http://www.speedcityresin.com/BelvedereAfxers.html

[Brutalform]

12 hours ago, drag racer 15 said:

Remember, the white golden commandos car was a test mule. So it is possible that it had a red interior because it wasn’t the A990 interior. Also remember that no 2 pictures of a car are the same because drag racing was progressing at light speed. So the cars were changing on a weekly basis. 
Here is an interesting summary of the process Chrysler did to convert the cars into A/FX drag racers.

http://www.speedcityresin.com/BelvedereAfxers.html

Excellent point.