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I'll be painting a body soon in black.  I have base coat lacquer and gloss clear which I'm used to spraying.  I see a lot of black cars without clear.  I'd like to see how black comes out with clear.

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I clear over every color. This is the only black one I have.

 

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This isn't going to tell you what you want to know, but....

Photos of other builders' black paint aren't going to tell you much. YOUR results are going to depend entirely on how well YOU can polish out the clearcoat. 

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Sorry for a long post, but that's the majority of the black cars in my collection

 

36554225996_7302c0d329_k.jpgSAM_2373 by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

26572464189_c596d0bc27_k.jpgSAM_1993 by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

37910486634_8c852f330c_k.jpg1 (259) by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

40549333035_e19f1abea1_k.jpgSAM_2351 by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

42656561722_f03beeaa5a_k.jpgSAM_2535 by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

30527181188_64c03329fe_k.jpg1 (88) by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

44394955481_d70cf79a03_k.jpg1 (103) by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

44394695251_417756bf69_k.jpg1 (173) by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

44345240402_62ccd1d619_k.jpg1 (178) by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

43486720375_3d285a6dd3_k.jpg1 (193) by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

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30526715758_d905a2f021_k.jpg1 (253) by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

43486295895_cb2289205b_k.jpgSAM_2540 by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

45460762074_c91909f175_k.jpgSAM_0364 by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

32872894098_60255ef1bd_k.jpgSAM_2551 by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

48507287306_11ea43c325_k.jpgSAM_0646 by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

 

49524308047_ee1540f026_k.jpgSAM_0010 by Eric Lucas, on Flickr

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Thanks Roger and Eric for the pictures!  They look great.

 

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32 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

This isn't going to tell you what you want to know, but....

Photos of other builders' black paint aren't going to tell you much. YOUR results are going to depend entirely on how well YOU can polish out the clearcoat. 

I understand.  I've read a few posts regarding black paint and some guys have said black looks better without clear.  All my builds have clear over the color which I polish.  I just wanted to get an idea of how black looks with clear.  I like what I'm seeing in these pictures.

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But just to add to the discussion, this is single stage PPG enamel. No clear and no polishing. 

 

 

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I've built a few.

All with Duplicolor "Universal Black" and Duplicolor clear lacquer.

 

1960 Mercury Parklane Convertible

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1962 Ford Sunliner Convertible

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1963 Pontiac Bonneville Hardtop

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Steve

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1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

I've built a few.

All with Duplicolor "Universal Black" and Duplicolor clear lacquer.

 

1960 Mercury Parklane Convertible

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1962 Ford Sunliner Convertible

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1963 Pontiac Bonneville Hardtop

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Steve

Steve, How in the heck do you get your chrome trim so laser straight?

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4 hours ago, henry57 said:

But just to add to the discussion, this is single stage PPG enamel. No clear and no polishing. 

 

 

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That's an amazing finish...

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Some of mine.

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9 hours ago, Bills72sj said:

Steve, How in the heck do you get your chrome trim so laser straight?

If you go to the "Tips, Tricks and Tutorials" section. there is a thread called "Wheel Arch Molding Foiling Tutorial".

It shows my method for foiling not only wheel arches, but all of the body trim, utilizing blue painters tape as a guide.

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

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A lot depends on the paint. Some have more inherent gloss than others.

1. This 68 Chevelle is painted off the gun with Matthews gloss black poly

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Same model and paint with Matthews clear poly added You can see it added a little depth.

 

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This 70 Chevelle was painted with walmart Color Place gloss black then cleared with Testors Wet Look lacquer

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1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

If you go to the "Tips, Tricks and Tutorials" section. there is a thread called "Wheel Arch Molding Foiling Tutorial".

It shows my method for foiling not only wheel arches, but all of the body trim, utilizing blue painters tape as a guide.

Steve

Found it, read it, LOVE IT! Thank you so much for sharing. My process will officially be changed. I also like someone else's tip to color the tip of the blade for contrast. That has always been a challenge (seeing where I am going)

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3 hours ago, gman said:

There are some stunning black finishes in this thread. 

http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/profile/9892-lovefordgalaxie/

^^ this forum member has produced a number of great black finishes (heck, a number of great finishes in general) also

But if I recall correctly, Tulio didn't use clear coats over his paint jobs.

 

 

 

Steve

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A friend had said he thought black with clear looked a bit out of scale.  I like how clear looks if it's not too thick.  From what I see above in all these pictures clear over black looks great.  I'm used to spraying base coat/clear coat lacquers.  I think I'll use the clear.

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Here is one I did a few years back.  Tamiya Black with Testor's Glosscote Lacquer.  The decals were terrible so I had to seal them in with a coat of Future floor polish to protect them...

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On 5/2/2020 at 5:26 PM, mrm said:

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I really like this. As soon as the world reopens and I can use my Hobby Lobby  coupon, I gotta get one of these. I have been staring at them and not buying. Not sure if the LHS has it or not. (Still open).

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Some very smooth as glass paint jobs on this thread. 
It could be better but it’s the only car I did black so far. While polishing the clear, I broke through to the black on the drivers door. After adding Future to it, I can’t even tell where it is now. 

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8 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

But if I recall correctly, Tulio didn't use clear coats over his paint jobs.

 

 

 

Steve

You are correct. He gets very nice results without clear, and IIRC uses automotive enamels for many of his paint jobs.

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Here’s a couple of mine... I actually don’t recall the paint and clear I used.  Most likely Duplicolor for the paint, but I’ve tried tons of different clears over the years.BAFB56EC-E1FF-4FD1-876E-7938F57757DB.jpeg.e644163cfa099778cfb6a8bf9b6e24a7.jpeg
 

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3 hours ago, Rodent said:

I really like this. As soon as the world reopens and I can use my Hobby Lobby  coupon, I gotta get one of these. I have been staring at them and not buying. Not sure if the LHS has it or not. (Still open).

I personally had a blast building it, so you should definitely get one and give it a try.

 

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