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Really looking forward to this build.

FYI Drag City Castings(Ed Fluck) makes a replacement hood for this car that fills the indents on the underside . Stops ghosting from the blower cutout .

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I'll be watching.

Maybe this will be a great motivator for me to get one of mine built...I think I have 4 

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13 hours ago, gtx6970 said:

Now you REALLY have my attention.

 

I have a really nice builtup. But Im afraid mine will NOT be built OE stock

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I have really thought about doing that Landy Coronet with mine.

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Thanks all!

Unfortunately for the Landy fans, you'll be disappointed.

This will be another factory stock build. ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

 

 

 

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On 9/11/2020 at 10:57 PM, Carmak said:

Very interested in seeing the "Steven Guthmiller" treatment on a 68 Coronet R/T.

I hope you start by tossing the kit's grille.

Carmak

I wasn't aware of any issue with the '68 Grille, Craig.

I know the '69 was kind of a disaster, but as far as I can tell the '68 looks pretty good.

 

I did drill out the head lights for replacing, but I thought the rest looked okay.

Something I'm missing?

 

 

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Looking good so far! Here's the hood I offer in resin that Wayne mentioned earlier. It is molded from one cut out of the "Feverbee" funnycar issue; so the fit is as good if not better than the original kit hood (I used a thin photo etch blade to remove the hood before I molded it); and as Wayne pointed out there are no blower hole cut-out marks on the underside of the hood to contend with on the top surface. The first attached photo is of the kit hood on one of my '68 Coronets.....the rest are of the resin hood I offer for comparison.

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1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

I wasn't aware of any issue with the '68 Grille, Craig.

I know the '69 was kind of a disaster, but as far as I can tell the '68 looks pretty good.

 

I did drill out the head lights for replacing, but I thought the rest looked okay.

Something I'm missing?

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Steve

Just looking at these pictures, I can see that the headlight pairs are too far apart on the model. The headlight rims are nearly touching on the real one. This might be troublesome to some; I think I'll just live with it. 

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12 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

Just looking at these pictures, I can see that the headlight pairs are too far apart on the model. The headlight rims are nearly touching on the real one. This might be troublesome to some; I think I'll just live with it. 

The only way around it is to completely scratch build a new grille by cutting out everything but the outer 'frame', laying the appropriate shaped photo etch screen mesh in place with bracing on the backside, using headlight rings and buckets from another source, and then gluing the R/T emblem from the Revell '68 or '69 Charger (for example) onto the grille if you were sticking with building an R/T instead of a Super bee; which would require further scratch building on the taillight panel. The taillights are actually quite different between the R/T and Super bee in '68;  yet look similar.

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It looks like the headlights on the MPC Charger 500 might be a little closer together than the Coronet grille's, but then again it says Charger on it. :unsure:

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3 hours ago, Snake45 said:

Just looking at these pictures, I can see that the headlight pairs are too far apart on the model. The headlight rims are nearly touching on the real one. This might be troublesome to some; I think I'll just live with it. 

Yeah, I noticed that, but that's really not worth freaking out over IMO.

Way too minuscule of a detail to justify messing around with it.

I'll be far too focused on removing the convertible "well" detail and replicating the rear door panel trim to mess with something that inconsequential. :rolleyes:

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

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Steve,

   It is the headlight spacing and grille opening that bothers me. The 1:1 grille sides are angled in much more than on the kit

   My Photon SLA printer is scheduled to arrive within the next couple weeks and my first cad project is a new grille.

   If you would like any interior pictures or measurements my 68 Coronet 500 convertible is out in the shop. The AMT 69 GTX convertible panels are really close but there is something wonky about the boot opening.

   Carmak

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I"ll just go ahead and sign up for this class too.  😄

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12 hours ago, Carmak said:

Steve,

   It is the headlight spacing and grille opening that bothers me. The 1:1 grille sides are angled in much more than on the kit

   My Photon SLA printer is scheduled to arrive within the next couple weeks and my first cad project is a new grille.

   If you would like any interior pictures or measurements my 68 Coronet 500 convertible is out in the shop. The AMT 69 GTX convertible panels are really close but there is something wonky about the boot opening.

   Carmak

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I agree with you here; having studied these cars for quite some time.......and the MPC kits. The early production '68 bodies have a more accurate shape to the bottom edge of the rear quarter windows; but it was altered to have that goofy sweeping upward curve by the time they came out with the "Feverbee" funnycar kit; and this change stayed put right on through the '69 and '70 bodies. I believe Steve corrected this to some degree on his '69 Coronet R/T build.

One other area that is off on the MPC '68-'69 Coronet bodies is the two little indented 'coves' at the front of the quarter panel. They're too large......or long to be a bit more accurate. I plan on attempting to graft the 'coves' from a Monogram '69 Super bee into a junk '70 Super bee body first to see if I run into any issues with the contour of the surrounding 'sheet metal' before cutting on one of my '68 or '69 MPC bodies. Visually, the 'coves' look about the right size despite the Monogram body being 1/24th scale.

Back to the '68 grille...........it is also not set into the opening deep enough compared to the 1:1. There's more 'material' on the inside of the fender/grille opening; where it looks more carved out at the deepest area on the sides on the MPC body instead of having a slight angle inward to meet the grille. Since there already appears to be a slight gap around the sides of the grille a little plastic sheet stock glued and reshaped might be all that is needed here to correct this proportional error.

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After seeing the pic of the real deal, the headlights don't really look that much closer together.

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20 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Thanks all!

Unfortunately for the Landy fans, you'll be disappointed.

This will be another factory stock build. ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

 

 

 

😁😁😁 I'm a landy fan but i knew that wasn't happening.

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I'm really looking forward to seeing what you'll do with this, Steve!

This kit has always looked fairly right to me, I never noticed the grille issue before. 

I actually have a 1:1 '68 Coronet grille stashed away in the basement. I got it at a swap meet back when they were inexpensive. Is there any way to scan a part (or in the case, 3 assemblies) and make 3D files out of them?

I would like to do that in order to create a '69 Charger 500 grille in 1/16 scale, but we could also use a better grille in 1/25 while we are at it.      

 

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I likely won't be making too many alterations to this body, except for possibly the most glaring inconsistency, which strangely enough, Ed neglected to mention. ^_^

This would be the crease, or ridge evident on the door panels just above the door handles.

This doesn't exist on the 1:1 and needs to be removed.

 

Other than that, the rest is close enough for me.

 

 

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Steve

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16 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

I likely won't be making too many alterations to this body, except for possibly the most glaring inconsistency, which strangely enough, Ed neglected to mention. ^_^

This would be the crease, or ridge evident on the door panels just above the door handles.

This doesn't exist on the 1:1 and needs to be removed.

 

Other than that, the rest is close enough for me.

 

 

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Steve

You are correct,  I failed to mention it! LOL! Subconsciously I knew you already corrected this on your '69 Coronet R/T; so it would be a bit redundant to bring it up again! LOL!

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18 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

I likely won't be making too many alterations to this body, except for possibly the most glaring inconsistency, which strangely enough, Ed neglected to mention. ^_^

This would be the crease, or ridge evident on the door panels just above the door handles.

This doesn't exist on the 1:1 and needs to be removed.

 

Other than that, the rest is close enough for me.

 

 

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Steve

Steven, for what it's worth, I agree 100% with your plan on this subject.   Can't wait to see how you apply your magic to this building subject....TIM 

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8 hours ago, krassandbernie said:

You are correct,  I failed to mention it! LOL! Subconsciously I knew you already corrected this on your '69 Coronet R/T; so it would be a bit redundant to bring it up again! LOL!

I know Ed.

Just tugging on your chain a little. ;)

 

 

 

 

Steve

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5 hours ago, George Bojaciuk said:

Drag City Casting’s has just released a hood for this.  I just ordered one. Check FB.

Thanks George, but I have the original hood, and the "blower cut out" doesn't really scare me.

I didn't really have any issues with it on my '69 and I would rather work with plastic over resin whenever possible.

 

 

 

 

Steve

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6 hours ago, tim boyd said:

Steven, for what it's worth, I agree 100% with your plan on this subject.   Can't wait to see how you apply your magic to this building subject....TIM 

Thanks Tim.

 

The real work is going to come with removing the convertible top wells, widening the rear seat and continuing the door card upholstery pattern into the rear passenger compartment.

Everything else will be gravy. ;)

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

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