DRIPTROIT 71 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sam I Am said: Thanks Brian, I would appreciate those pics for future reference. Right now,, for mock up sake, I would like to know if the Titan location for the engine is ok, or if I need to lower it in the frame. Oh, and I started looking for reference pics. The first two are what I am going after, the last ones are squirrels. ? I believe you will have to modify the front of your floor pan to allow for the radiator. Here is a Titan with a12v-71 Here is a Crackerbox with an 8v. It does look like the frame rails drop a little on the Crackerbox but the manifold to frame distance looks about the same. Now notice the front of the engine tunnel It looks to me like the tunnel angels up to allow for the radiator. If I'm not mistaken the kit is straight. Here is a few pictures for inspiration if you need any more let me know Edited January 11, 2021 by DRIPTROIT 71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sam I Am said: Thanks Brian, I would appreciate those pics for future reference. Right now,, for mock up sake, I would like to know if the Titan location for the engine is ok, or if I need to lower it in the frame. Oh, and I started looking for reference pics. The first two are what I am going after, the last ones are squirrels. ? After a second look at my pictures, with the way the frame drops on the 1:1 compared to your kit frame, the 8v may need to sit a little lower. You may consider shaving some off the top of the frame rail to simulate the 1:1. Notice the top of the transmission compared to the rear frame rails, this will give you an idea on how deep to set the engine. Anyway, if you need more pictures let me know. Edited January 11, 2021 by DRIPTROIT 71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 If I am looking at the pictures correctly, it looks like the exhaust manifold is running fairly parallel with the top of the frame rail. Here is a pic of the kit Titan engine in its original location. I can lower the crossmember to level out the engine a bit, and can slide the engine forward a tic so the crank driven fan clears the crossmember. If I need more manifold clearance I can also notch the frame rail to make it appear that it drops down. Here is the resin floor pan that Jeff left out for clearance. He made his own. It appears that with Jeff's modifications there is plenty of room for the engine. I would have to disassemble part of the cab to get the resin floorboard installed, and yes Brian, it does look like the hump is straight and not angled like in the pic. I even have a narrow radiator and what looks like something I can fake into a rear cab mount. Did I bite off more than I can chew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sam I Am said: If I am looking at the pictures correctly, it looks like the exhaust manifold is running fairly parallel with the top of the frame rail. Here is a pic of the kit Titan engine in its original location. I can lower the crossmember to level out the engine a bit, and can slide the engine forward a tic so the crank driven fan clears the crossmember. If I need more manifold clearance I can also notch the frame rail to make it appear that it drops down. Here is the resin floor pan that Jeff left out for clearance. He made his own. It appears that with Jeff's modifications there is plenty of room for the engine. I would have to disassemble part of the cab to get the resin floorboard installed, and yes Brian, it does look like the hump is straight and not angled like in the pic. I even have a narrow radiator and what looks like something I can fake into a rear cab mount. Did I bite off more than I can chew? I don’t think that you have bitten off more than you can chew. Keep in mind you can always fall back to a curbside on this project as when it makes it to the shelf, the cab is rarely tilted. You probably already know this, but I would remove all belt drives from the front. The Ertl style radiator is a bit narrower but has a very large top tank. You may consider narrowing a radiator with a smaller tank or modifying the tank on that one. Sit everything in place and give it a test run. Even on bigger cabs, radiator clearance is almost always an issue. For that matter I had some issue with radiator clearance on the T800 I’m building now. Hang in there! You got this! Edited January 12, 2021 by DRIPTROIT 71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotnitro? Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 You're gonna nail this Sam ! All the members here will definitely help get ya squared away . Sorry I hacked that floor up so bad , building it as a mixer I planned keeping cab closed and just stuffed everything in the hole . I never realized until late the fans could be run off crank which really helped fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) No apologies needed Jeff. After mocking up everything, I also thought a curbside was the best way to go. But then I found this pic and realized how low this radiator sat...that and I saw a few built models with the cab hinged and wondered how... Now, is there a pic of the bottom of the radiator, that is the question.. Does anyone have a couple cans of Tamiya mica red that they would trade? ? Edited January 12, 2021 by Sam I Am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, DRIPTROIT 71 said: For that matter I had some issue with radiator clearance on the T800 I’m building now. I need to pick your brain on a T800 conversion I have planned as well. I will pm you later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Just now, Sam I Am said: I need to pick your brain on a T800 conversion I have planned as well. I will pm you later. 10-4 No Problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 I think these wheels will work. Time to throw them into the purple pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafsprings Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Never been a fan of the rear hubs on most AMT kits. Here is a photo of the 34K tandem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, leafsprings said: Never been a fan of the rear hubs on most AMT kits. Here is a photo of the 34K tandem. Yeah, I have looked at so many pics of wheels, they are all starting to look the same. If you are a photographer, and taking a picture of a vehicle, you are supposed to shoot a 3/4 view. Everyone on the web must be a photographer, because I can hardly find any straight on side shots, and the ones I find won't be good enough to zoom in on. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafsprings Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) IMO, dechromed axle caps off the KW kits would look great glued over your rear ( red ) hubs. They are flatter and more realistic looking. Edited January 17, 2021 by leafsprings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 7:40 PM, leafsprings said: IMO, dechromed axle caps off the KW kits would look great glued over your rear ( red ) hubs. They are flatter and more realistic looking. Good idea. ? I have been plugging away at the trailer and will have the basic shape assembled tomorrow. I am going with a gray chassis on the truck to tie everything together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olskoolrodder Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Awesome progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotnitro? Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Looking forward to seeing your trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopar - D Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Nice progress Sam. If you decide to drill out the holes in the ramps on the trailer there’s only 2748 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Mopar - D said: Nice progress Sam. If you decide to drill out the holes in the ramps on the trailer there’s only 2748 of them. I hate to ask how you know this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutzie Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Nice progress so far Sam. Can’t wait to see the finished project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronzekeg Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 coming along great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopar - D Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Sam I Am said: I hate to ask how you know this... You asked Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Mopar - D said: You asked Sam. You are a much better man than I am. So by the time you finished, how many did you drill out that weren't even there because of all the spots you were seeing? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopar - D Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I could only drill for one hour at a time so it took several days to finish them. That’s all my fingers could take drilling them my hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam I Am Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 Here is the basic hauler. I see that I should have painted the underneath of the front upper deck red, but it is what it is, and I only have enough paint left for the wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 That looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills72sj Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Keep up the good work my friend. I have two matching trailers with some minor mods. Edited January 25, 2021 by Bills72sj Better picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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