MrObsessive Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 I bumped into this very interesting article about what Stellantis has in store for Dodge in 2024. In the article here, it reinforces also what I've thought about the future of ICE's and why auto manufacturers are going the route they're going. 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Bringing back the Polara name would be cool, at least. Monaco does have more of a racing connection, but Dodge only put that name on luxury cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerS Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 0-to-60 time as low as 2 seconds Range of up to 500 miles Time to fully recharge batteries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcarfan27 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Until electric cars soak up 100% solar power, they still have to plug into power stations connected to Edison, which still uses fossil fuel to run it's power plants. So just because the car companies say they're "green", the energy to make them move still has to come from dynersawers! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam Vet67 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Consumers Energy to Quit Coal by 2025, Speeding Closure of Five UnitsMichigan’s largest energy provider Consumers Energy will stop using coal as a fuel source for power generation within the next four years—15 years earlier than previously planned.In an updated integrated resource plan (IRP) filed with the Michigan Public Service Commission (MPSC) on June 23, the CMS Energy subsidiary said the effort would lead Michigan’s clean energy transformation, and, if approved, it would make Consumers “one of the first utilities in the nation to go coal-free.” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Vietnam Vet67 said: Consumers Energy to Quit Coal by 2025, Speeding Closure of Five UnitsMichigan’s largest energy provider Consumers Energy will stop using coal as a fuel source for power generation within the next four years—15 years earlier than previously planned.In an updated integrated resource plan (IRP) filed with the Michigan Public Service Commission (MPSC) on June 23, the CMS Energy subsidiary said the effort would lead Michigan’s clean energy transformation, and, if approved, it would make Consumers “one of the first utilities in the nation to go coal-free.” Now we can look forward to what happened in Texas in February. 😵 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Oldcarfan27 said: Until electric cars soak up 100% solar power, they still have to plug into power stations connected to Edison, which still uses fossil fuel to run it's power plants. So just because the car companies say they're "green", the energy to make them move still has to come from dynersawers! I tell people who are "so proud" that they own an electric car that their car runs on coal. They don't seem to like that fact! 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Sound really neat. The more electric cars get bought and popular isn’t going to put more stres on the electric grid that is maxed out already.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfhess Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 0-60 in two seconds. For what? To be first to the next red light? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelle Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 15 hours ago, michelle said: "Emuscle cars".... Possibly eluding to Ford's Mach E Pinto....I mean mustang. Seems to make sense to me to keep a proven look and style versus re-create the pinto with mustang badges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 12:50 PM, Jim B said: I tell people who are "so proud" that they own an electric car that their car runs on coal. They don't seem to like that fact! 😄 Maybe it's because New York's electical grid runs almost exclusively on natural gas, nuclear, and hydro. https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=NY 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, Richard Bartrop said: Maybe it's because New York's electical grid runs almost exclusively on natural gas, nuclear, and hydro. https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=NY Yes, that's true; but I still think it's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Telling them "facts" that aren't really facts. Gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Rodney Rat Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 there's no such thing as a free lunch.... -RRR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Cool..I like that they are bring back the fratzog emblem also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Richard Bartrop said: Telling them "facts" that aren't really facts. Gotcha. Well. a lot of my friends are in PA. Besides, it's a joke! Edited July 23, 2021 by Jim B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfhess Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 California's electric car revolution, designed to save the planet, also unleashes a toll on it (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 https://jalopnik.com/one-of-americas-first-lithium-mines-could-be-in-the-one-1847293898 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSheep214 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 8:25 PM, HomerS said: 0-to-60 time as low as 2 seconds Range of up to 500 miles Time to fully recharge batteries? 0 to 60 in 2 seconds? Yeah right. That's like blinking twice. False advertising. In reality, it's impossible to hit 60 mph in 2 seconds - electric car or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espo Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Half the people on the road today can't control what they're driving now. The answer is more power ? EV's are here and many more are on the way in pick ups and SUV's as well as most any body style you can think of. Beyond the Piolet Error issues we are seeing with the ones on the road now there are many other associated issues to consider. Recharging stations for one since our electrical grid is being taxed just to keep your home air conditioner going. What about Road Taxes ?, you know how are the owners going to pay their fair share of the cost of the road ways? Many taxing questions and we're trying to run with the EV's and we still aren't sure how to walk now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, BlackSheep214 said: 0 to 60 in 2 seconds? Yeah right. That's like blinking twice. False advertising. In reality, it's impossible to hit 60 mph in 2 seconds - electric car or not. It is factually possible for a car to do naught to 60 in 2 seconds, the Ferrari Ferrari SF90 Stradale did it when Car&Driver tested it just recently ,the 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid did naught to 60 in 1.98 second( under track prepped conditions) , so its very possible for this new EV to hit in 2 flat. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a37066187/2021-ferrari-sf90-stradale-60-mph-acceleration/ https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-tesla-model-s-plaid-first-test-review/ Edited July 27, 2021 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctmodeler Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 12 hours ago, BlackSheep214 said: 0 to 60 in 2 seconds? Yeah right. That's like blinking twice. False advertising. In reality, it's impossible to hit 60 mph in 2 seconds - electric car or not. 2.0 seconds idk, but there are cars now that are under 3.0 easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam Vet67 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 12 hours ago, BlackSheep214 said: 0 to 60 in 2 seconds? Yeah right. That's like blinking twice. False advertising. In reality, it's impossible to hit 60 mph in 2 seconds - electric car or not. Top Fuel Race cars run 3.5 seconds in a 1000 foot run. Top speed is in the 350 mph range. They don't run the 1/4 mile any more do to the high speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSheep214 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 11 hours ago, martinfan5 said: It is factually possible for a car to do naught to 60 in 2 seconds, the Ferrari Ferrari SF90 Stradale did it when Car&Driver tested it just recently ,the 2022 Tesla Model S Plaid did naught to 60 in 1.98 second( under track prepped conditions) , so its very possible for this new EV to hit in 2 flat. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a37066187/2021-ferrari-sf90-stradale-60-mph-acceleration/ https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-tesla-model-s-plaid-first-test-review/ On the test track with professional drivers maybe. With ordinary drivers on the highway, they'll burn rubber on the tires before they actually get a move on. 2 seconds is like warp speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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