ibj40 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) Inspired by, I think, someone on here that was doing one in 1/24, I've started on a 1/18 scale Petty 1971 Ford Torino Cobra. We all know the story about the one year that Petty bailed on Plymouth before they created the Superbird. But what if Chrysler blinked, and didn't bow down to the Pettys? What if Petty Enterprises stayed with Ford? Here are my two donors, an Auto World 1972 Petty Plymouth Roadrunner will donate the chassis. An Ertl American Muscle 1971 Torino Cobra will donate the body. Wasn't sure how successful this one was going to be, so didn't take any progress pictures, but when it clicked, thought I would chronicle the rest of the build. You might be thinking, wow, that looks too easy, you just put the new body onto the old chassis. Well . . . I wanted to get rid of the torsion bar front suspension of the Plymouth, and use a more Ford-like coil spring setup. But I also wanted to keep the race chassis detail of the Plymouth (and the Torino had a molded in exhaust system, among other things). So, I cut the front clip off the Ford chassis, and put it in place, then bonded (actually Super Glued) the Plymouth chassis to it. In order to use the front spindles from the Plymouth with the front suspension from the Ford, I had to fabricate a ball joint extension out of aluminum rod (circled in the picture), which also cured a front/rear rid height issue. Encouraged by this progress, this one is going forward. Edited December 4, 2021 by ibj40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 So, making some progress on this one.Here's the back of the chassis, and you can see that the Plymouth chassis doesn't quite match up with the body.Going to use the same technique I used at the front, and cut a slice off the rear of the Torino chassis.Then bond that piece onto the Plymouth chassis, which will allow me to use the screw mounts at both the front and rear of the custom.Will reinforce the joint with a piece of sheet styrene.Now, onto wedging the GMP Boss 429 engine into the Ertl Torino engine compartment.I dry fit the headers and dumps from the Plymouth to their proper location on the Plymouth chassis.Because of the way that the Plymouth engine mold is made, the headers are really funky.I removed the street exhaust manifolds from the GMP 429, and they have a nice flat surface, almost like a real engine would have.When you dry fit, this is what you get.Going to have to very carefully sand back the headers to where the engine will drop into the chassis and look, hopefully, correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 One of the many things that I need to work around when blending the body from one 1/18 scale diecast to the chassis of another is the differences in treatment of certain elements.Here I have to deal with the dogleg hinges of the hood from the Torino which are closer together than in the firewall of the Plymouth chassis.Fortunately, from my racing days, I have acquired a nibbling tool that helps.This tool takes a roughly 1/4 inch wide by 1/16 inch deep bite out of most any lighter material. Here you can see where I have started a new notch.I'll have to make similar cuts on the firewall, to match the interior.Might have to relocate the master cylinder for accuracy.Dogleg hinges are also popular on earlier model diecast for hanging doors.Since this is a Nascar stock car, that won't be a problem, as I will remove the hinge and solidly mount the door skin to the body for final assembly prior to painting.I use a pin vise of sorts, with an 1/18 inch drill bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Got a dry fit of the body onto the chassis done. Had to cut a lot more of the interior and exterior firewalls than I had expected, but I have the four corner screws set and I think it looks good.You be the judge.Next I will turn back to the engine compartment and start to shave the header flanges to see if I can make that work.Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) On Christmas Day, it is 82 degrees here. My paint booth is my front driveway, so I had to take advantage of the weather and put down a couple of coats of paint.There will be a couple of coats of clear, as well, and temps are above 70 from now until new Sunday.What do you think? Might be a little too dark, or might be the light in my shop, but this is the paint color that my research revealed, Basin Street Blue.Tried a picture with the flash on. Still might be a little dark, but I'm going to go with it. Edited December 26, 2021 by ibj40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toys4Don2 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Looks pretty close to me. Keep posting the updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede70 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Looking nice, whereas it sits well too. Thanks for sharing... Mike K./Swede70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 Thanks for your support and positive comments! Trying make some progress, but seems like it is one step forward, three steps back.Got the header flanges ground down. The one on the right was the Guinea Pig, but when it is glued to the head, won't be noticeable.Dry fit from the bottom looks good.Dry fit from the top shows that a lot of work needs to be done.If you remember the engine crossmember from a few posts up, I already removed a considerable amount of plastic, including a stalk that the Ertl engine was attached to.Looks like a lot more surgery will be required to get the GMP 429 to sit flat.Was hoping not to have to remove the radiator, but that may be my only access point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 This is a new dry fit.Looks pretty good.That is, if you leave this minor component off.A little more work required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 So, how did we achieve the new dry fit?By going dry sump!Prior to 1969, my exposure to Nascar racing had been through Wide World of Sports, so I knew very little other than what ABC, Jim McKay, and Chris Economaki wanted me to know.In 1969, Texas International Speedway opened with inaugural Texas 500.As president of the Texas A&M Sports Car Club at the time, I had an ongoing relationship with the track.One day I got a phone call asking if I knew of anyone who would be interested in pumping gas for Union 76 during race events. I volunteered myself, and then started looking for others to join me.My job was to pump gas and give out lubricants to the Nascar teams.The Union 76 reps (which included Bill Broderick) gave us a list of teams, showing what kind of oiling system they were using.If a team was still using wet sump, we were to give them eight quarts of oil whenever they requested it, but the newer, more advanced teams using dry sump would get an entire case.So, now equipped with the knowledge that dry sump was in existence during the era of this fantasy build, I looked around on my shelves and found an 1/18 scale Nascar chassis with a dry sump setup.So I salvaged a pan and drive system and removed the bellhousing and transmission from the GMP wet sump pan.With the dry sump pan taped in place, looks like we might have a winner!Found a dry sump tank in the spares bins, as well, so it will be mounted in the appropriate location in the interior.Got to wait on some paint to dry, then we have to take courage and SuperGlue in hand and assemble the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 In the process of owning and (occasionally) racing four different race cars, I've taken delivery of my share of long blocks.They all, more or less, looked like this.Usually, I knew they were going to fit into the chassis, as I raced Chevy Smallblocks exclusively.Hoping for the same luck with this GMP 429 with a dry sump pan and drive from an Ertl Nascar Ford going into an Ertl Torino chassis.Happy New Year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede70 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Looking very nice and thanks too for the historical perspective also relating to your involvement and exposure to the scene in-period. The model is really coming together, whereas I remember seeing in-shop photos within one of the digital archives depicting a Torino Cobra Petty Enterprises entry well along in the fabrication process. It seem the return to Plymouth and abandonment of the Ford deal happened late, even as Torino Cobra/GT print ads. would have us believe that the new for '70 bodies were 'shaped by the wind'! Neat topic, neat execution. Thanks for sharing... Mike K./Swede70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 hours ago, swede70 said: I remember seeing in-shop photos within one of the digital archives depicting a Torino Cobra Petty Enterprises entry well along in the fabrication process. Mike K./Swede70 Would love to see those pictures, however don't make yourself crazy trying to find them. Thanks for the compliments, feedback is really appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede70 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) This was the one I remembered, although it'll take me a bit to determine if there were others. It does look like Richard topside... Mike K./Swede70 Edited January 1, 2022 by swede70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Thanks for the picture, Mike! That is amazing and gives a little bit more credibility to my fantasy build. And that is clearly King Richard himself! Well, Happy New Year to all who are following this build.I've put the engine install on the backburner while I figure out headers.So, instead I did a hard dry fit of all the other parts and pieces of the model, in order to go ahead and apply decals soon.Added a pedal assembly that the Plymouth interior didn't have. Doors will eventually be glued closed.Still need to fabricate a fuel filler.Got the engine installed, and the carb and air cleaner in place. Still need to install the top water hose from the engine to the radiator.And the hood stays open by itself (unusual for me on one of these body/chassis swaps).Just need to figure out how to connect the engine to the exhaust dumps. Already have a driveshaft roughed together, just need to cut it to length.The package tray for the Roadrunner interior didn't extend back to the rear window of the Torino, so I placed a thin sheet of aluminum in the void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toys4Don2 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Definitely making progress. Finish Strong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 Still trying to figure out headers. Been going through my parts and found three of four sets, but their just sitting on the workbench for now.Thought I'd at least try to make some progress, so started on the decals.The decal sheet I'm using is one of those two layer-type, with a white set and then a color set, plus I am adding in some STP decals as if this was on early pre-Granatelli temper tantrum version.Not done yet, but thought I'd share the progress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 Got one side done, so I could take a picture.Now all I have to do is match the other side to this one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermn8r Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 5:10 PM, swede70 said: To lend further credibility, to me, that looks like Maurice Petty on the right with the glasses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibj40 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 Done!Found a set of headers that seem to fit (just don't look really closely), fabricated a drive shaft, got the engine mounted in the chassis (again, don't look too close), and fabricated a upper radiator hose.And now a shot of the finished product. I'll post more in the proper forum. Finished product here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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