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On 2/4/2022 at 11:17 PM, chris chabre said:

LOOKS AWESOME!!!! I NEED about 10 sets of those rear wheels and tires!!!

 

Tall rear tire with steel wheel

Here's a tutorial on how to take the wheel from the Monogram 1941 Lincoln kit (discontinued but readily available on eBay) and insert the center section from the Revell steel wheel (available in several kits, the '40 Ford, '48 Ford, '32 five window and others) all brought to us complements of @Rocking Rodney Rat Follow along... https://public.fotki.com/jferren/tall-rear-tire-with/

 

 

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In an offline conversation continually running between @Dennis Lacy& @Rocking Rodney Rataka @Rockin' Rodney Rat(inside joke) and me, RRR how did he put it... something like get "rid of the deuce frame horns!"  Could pinch the rails and keep the frame inside the hood sides and forward into the nose.  Bob the frame horns right at the front edge of the crossmember with the front spring parallel to the axle. Couple of ways to do that: spring behind a dropped axle sprung between split wishbones or hairpins.  Or quarter elliptical springs.  Yeah! That's the ticket!!

Let's see where these two AMT 1927 Ford Front Axles take us...

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What we have here is an almost flat and somewhat short overall length/width top mounted front leaf spring.

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Nice detail from the front, but look closely at the loss of detail and material to accommodate the steel axle and lower/rear edge of the front crossmember.

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Separate the springs from the stock axles...

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Smooth the backside... creating almost mirror images of one and other...

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Set them together with some bonding fluid...

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File to desired shape...

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Starting with the rough-cut bottom edge looking like this...

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Interesting... can't quite place the origin of the slightly dropped tube axle.

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Imagine the spring cut right in half mounted in the frame in place of the deuce frame horn with the axle tucked up under the nose about 4 scale inches forward of the stock front crossmember.

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Placing the front tire about here:

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Gotta get the engine set between the rails before working on the full belly pan.  Did I mention the V-12 block will be bolted to the front side of the firewall?  Film at 11 -KK

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6 hours ago, Kit Karson said:

Tall rear tire with steel wheel

Here's a tutorial on how to take the wheel from the Monogram 1941 Lincoln kit (discontinued but readily available on eBay) and insert the center section from the Revell steel wheel

I think RRR, you and Dennis all sent it to me at some point during my hunt haha. I just have to do it. Ive told myself no more buying complete kits for only a few parts.

 

I agree on the frame horns. It was one of the first things that came off when I was building professionally

 

Ive always liked Quarter elliptical spring set ups a well!

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15 hours ago, chris chabre said:

I think RRR, you and Dennis, all sent it to me at some point during my hunt ha ha. I just have to do it. I've told myself no more buying complete kits for only a few parts.

I agree on the frame horns. It was one of the first things that came off when I was building professionally

I've always liked Quarter elliptical spring set ups a well!

Chris,

I totally understand... I've been thinning out my collection!  It's easy to sell off the sealed kits, of many I couldn't tell you from whence they came or when!  

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Now I have several open kits... quite a few that are mostly undisturbed inside and several that, most certainly, have been scavenged for the "KOOL" stuff!  I might buy a specific kit for something that escapes me, but not before asking friends and followers if they might have such a part.  This is where having a deep and disparate storehouse of model boat/bike/car/pickup/trailer/truck parts creates an opportunity to barter/help/trade with a fellow modeler somewhere close by or halfway around the world.  We've all seen guys online hawking parts and pieces; complete engines and/or chassis, etc.  I'll pull a part on request, pack and post it sometimes the very same day.  No questions asked and no accountable expectations disappointed.  Fortunately, life is good for more than just me, Brother!  For now, I am just the caretaker for a narrowly defined model collection that has followed me back and forth across this great country of ours for too many years!!  Building and sharing "how-to" dos and don'ts is a responsibility that has been handed down to me and accepting that baton from such nameless luminaries hopefully will help sustain the hobby in one way or another.  The inter-web has torn down what once was thought to be obscure and currently finds that it's almost universal.  Our hobby, whether 1:1 or in scale, covers every genre imaginable and yet allows every individual to create, design and construct their dream and/or version/vision.  We all have 'em and do our best to build them.  Have I ever reached a roadblock, sure!  There's a couple that have found their way back into the box and placed back on the shelf!?.  -KK

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2 hours ago, chris chabre said:

I've been searching ebay etc for the wheels/tires, I also recently put a want ad up. I'll get a set eventually. and maybe then I'll actually cast them myself (or try anyways haha)

The same tires that are in the Monogram '41 Lincoln (4) are also in the Monogram SCOOL BUS (front 2):

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I just found a pair of Monogram '41 Lincoln Rims & Hub Caps that I'll send you... just PM me your address.  I also have a couple of Revell '32 5ive Window rear steel wheel inserts that you can mate with the '41 rims.

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Now, all you need are a couple of tires!  Any help out there? -KK

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Had a minute to shoot a stock Revell Track Nose from the '29 Roadster PU:

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Before & After

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Not the best pictures overall, but upon close scrutiny you can see the changes that have accumulated over the last seven years of progress:

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And there will be more slicing in its future!

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Wait and see... -KK

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On 2/7/2022 at 2:33 PM, Kit Karson said:

The same tires that are in the Monogram '41 Lincoln (4) are also in the Monogram SCOOL BUS (front 2):

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I just found a pair of Monogram '41 Lincoln Rims & Hub Caps that I'll send you... just PM me your address.  I also have a couple of Revell '32 5ive Window rear steel wheel inserts that you can mate with the '41 rims.

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Now, all you need are a couple of tires!  Any help out there? -KK

They are in the mail, Brother!

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22 hours ago, Paul Payne said:

Keep it coming! This is great stuff! Looking forward to more engine development as well! 

Thanks Paul!  Me too!  Hope to bring you all up to date early next week. Been workin' on the foundation and will be wedging in the #12's big powerplant very soon!  Stat tuned... -KK

ps found this on the interweb and had to share it with you... it's a flathead 8ight, and full of ideas!  You see 'em?

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On 2/13/2022 at 11:45 AM, Kit Karson said:

ps found this on the interweb and had to share it with you... it's a flathead 8ight, and full of ideas!  You see 'em?

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I also recently saw this picture on the internet and immediately thought of you. That fluted connection from the blower to the intake is particularly intriguing, hope to see your take on that.

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Remember the plan to bolt the V-12 to the firewall... here's an example of an adaptor created to add a late model standard transmission to the aft of the '41 Lincoln V-12:

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Pulled the old flathead from the deuce sedan... the bellhousing will be used to adapt the TKO500 to the V-12 tail:

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After lining out the areas that will need to be cleaned up on the stock Monogram '41 Lincoln block: exhaust headers and crossover pipe, manifold and transmission, decided to order the '41 Lincoln V-12 from The Parts Box:

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A lot less work to get the V-12 block ready to go in the roadster! -KK

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3 hours ago, Kit Karson said:

Remember the plan to bolt the V-12 to the firewall... here's an example of an adaptor created to add a late model standard transmission to the aft of the '41 Lincoln V-12:

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Pulled the old flathead from the deuce sedan... the bellhousing will be used to adapt the TKO500 to the V-12 tail:

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After lining out the areas that will need to be cleaned up on the stock Monogram '41 Lincoln block: exhaust headers and crossover pipe, manifold and transmission, decided to order the '41 Lincoln V-12 from The Parts Box:

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A lot less work to get the V-12 block ready to go in the roadster! -KK

Have you ever thought about mating two flathead blocks from Revell’s Tudor by cutting out the first/last cylinders? 
  I made myself a really cool “small block” Ford V12 from the Tevell kits that way. Really easy to convert the headers too. 

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20 hours ago, mrm said:

Have you ever thought about mating two flathead blocks from Revell’s Tudor by cutting out the first/last cylinders? 
  I made myself a really cool “small block” Ford V12 from the Tevell kits that way. Really easy to convert the headers too. 

SC V-12 = Two SBC's 

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