stavanzer Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 As I said, can you really be impressed the Builders Craftsmanship and Detail, but still be totally turned off the Styling Cues and/or Subject matter of a build? Lately I've seen a few builds that are outstanding in their build quality, but just completely leave me cold, on Colour, Wheel Choice or Overall Look. I so badly want to like the Build, but they just turn me off. Am I the only person who thinks this way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitchdup Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 You can absolutelly do that. Personally I have no interest in factory stock yet some of my fav builders on the forum only build that way. You can easily judge something only by the workmanship and it happens often in the 1/1 world too. Some of the vehicles that have won ambr or detroit have fantastic attention to detail but the end result isn't to my tastes. Quality workmanship will always stand out even if its not necessarily aesthetically pleasing to your eye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, stavanzer said: ...Am I the only person who thinks this way? Nope. I understand. But I can also look past a style I don't care for and admire superior craftsmanship. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Many, many times here I've posted something like, "Not my cup of tea at all, but there's no denying your superb craftsmanship and skill." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills72sj Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 I am in agreement. I have somewhat limited taste in subject matter but high caliber craftsmanship is something I will always take note of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CabDriver Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Good topic! This got me thinking… I think, for me, the enjoyment and excitement I get from seeing an inspiring build is very rarely because the subject matter is exactly the thing I like. I follow a bunch of inspiring builders on Instagram, for example, and most of them AREN’T building something I would consider building myself…but they do it SO well, it doesn’t matter to me. The craftsmanship is the thing I enjoy seeing, and learn from. I read something on a modeling site once, maybe here or maybe SA before it closed, that said it really doesn’t matter which kit you might choose to build for a contest - if you build it well enough, it doesn’t even matter. Same thing with seeing other people’s builds…seeing a job masterfully done is the interesting thing for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) I enjoy the WIP threads much more than the Under Glass section for this reason. I enjoy seeing the process, regardless of subject of creating a well built model. As the saying goes, Its the journey not the destination that matters. Edited March 27, 2022 by afx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIPTROIT 71 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 I understand. I rarely open a thread of a subject that I am not interested in. However when I do, there have been times when I am blown away by the level of craftsmanship even though it wasn’t my taste in builds, but too often that is the exception and not the rule. Example: It is simply a preference thing, but I don’t particularly care for European semi trucks, however there is a builder of those trucks on this forum that knocks every build out of the park. Although it is not my taste, I am impressed by the craftsmanship of the build every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Sure can. When I go to an NNL event or contest, I try to give everything a look. If everyone built the same stuff and had the same tastes, it would be pretty dull. Sometimes the builder isn't necessarily "up to speed" in their level of ability, but have great ideas. Any time someone mentions what they feel are shortcomings in their own work, and ask for suggestions, anyone I know will suggest better materials, parts, methods, what have you. We do need to encourage everyone coming on board. I'm not suggesting "everyone gets a trophy", but if someone does ask for critique, tell them the good points first, then offer suggestions where you think they will do good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Heck yes ! I am not one who cares for the weathered or beat up look. I prefer a nice paint job. However I have seen many that are very well done and appreciate the talent it takes to pull off a realistic finish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espo Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 I think one of the great things about this forum and the different sections is the ability to see what other builders are doing. The WIP section is a good way to learn how different builders' approach some assembly issues and fabrication. Seeing finished builds and knowing how they accomplished different aspects of the model gives you a better appreciation of their efforts. As for the build subject, that will always be the observer's viewpoint, but that shouldn't change one's appreciation for what the builder has done. Colors and wheels and tires are one area that in my mind is an area that really is the builders' ideas. Everyone has at one point, or another looked at a build and thought "O I would have done this differently". This doesn't mean the builder is wrong and you're right, just means your personal tastes would have been different. You still have to look at someone else's build and appreciate it for what it is and how they finished it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurth Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 It is all a matter of taste, and it can be hard to look past a style or genre which does not appeal to me. But I can appreciate new ideas, and craftsmanship even if it is not something I like. There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Fine craftsman and design are two sides of a project. Ii always appreciate how well something is done. The design is the artistic side and is subjective. Its always a pleasure two elements done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classicgas Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 15 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Nope. I understand. But I can also look past a style I don't care for and admire superior craftsmanship. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris chabre Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I do it all the time...Quality fab is quality fab. I had to do it in the hot rod industry all the time. Still do when a potential customer brings me his ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, chris chabre said: I do it all the time...Quality fab is quality fab. I had to do it in the hot rod industry all the time. Still do when a potential customer brings me his ideas Yup. Building somebody else's vision is what most professional real-car builders do most of the time. Like the man says, quality is quality, whether you're personally on fire about the project or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 Thanks for all the thoughtful replies. I am glad to know that I am not alone. There are some builders here on the board who complete such beautiful work, that I'll look at what ever they do. Other times, I see builds that just bowl me over with subject matter, even when the build quality is not quite as sharp. But, all who post here do really great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsuperdan Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 100%. Just like with real cars & trucks at shows. I can see a build and have the utmost respect for the talent and skills of the builder, but completely dislike the subject matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckyg1 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Simple answer, Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McD Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 It seems that we are all pretty much in agreement. I think that much of the joy of this hobby is the actual building of the project. For me the problem solving and satisfaction of striving for and every once in a while achieving a satisfactory level of craftsmanship is what keeps me at it. While some projects are, as Snake45 put it, "Not my cup of tea at all, but there's no denying your superb craftsmanship and skill." I can always learn from the techniques the builder uses and even begin to appreciate styles that don't appeal to me at first glance. Wouldn't it be dull if we all had the same sense of style regardless of how well built the projects are? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 1017 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Even though some of the rusted out barn finds, Rat Rods, and dioramas are great builds I just don't get into them. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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