Revell 71 442

[dri]

Thank you Raoul for all your Youtube Videos. Great job.

[tim boyd]

Just opened the one I bought today at the NNL Motor City. Body looks fine.  Whew!   TB 

[Daddyfink]

 

[tbill]

Picked up two of these at a show this weekend,  (us release) both bodies were mint, no damage at all.

[Merkur XR4Ti]

Does anyone know of a resin caster or printer doing the louvered hood for the '71 442? The ram air hood in the kit is very well done but I'm thinking of something a little bit different. Also, these decals seemed to be unique to the non-W-30 version of the car.

 

 

[64Comet404]

Modelhaus used to do this hood as part of the 1971 and 1972 conversions for the JoHan kit. Should have kept it when I sold my '70 442 kits. 

[Sport Suburban]

That hood is pretty much in this version. It's missing the side vents but I believe they are in the Model Car Garage photo etch sheet. 1971 and 1972 Oldsmobile 442 Detail Set - Photo-Etched Detail Sets: General Motors (modelcargarage.com)

Edited May 21, 2023 by Sport Suburban

[Mr. Metallic]

Anyone casting the flat hood from the Revell Muscle or Indy Pace Car versions of the 72 to use on the 71 coupe? Or does anyone have one they would part with?

[sfhess]

1 hour ago, Mr. Metallic said:

Anyone casting the flat hood from the Revell Muscle or Indy Pace Car versions of the 72 to use on the 71 coupe? Or does anyone have one they would part with?

Missing Link makes that hood:

Resin 1/25th scale 1971-2 Oldsmobile 442 BASE hood from Missing Link | eBay

[Mr. Metallic]

3 minutes ago, sfhess said:

Missing Link makes that hood:

Resin 1/25th scale 1971-2 Oldsmobile 442 BASE hood from Missing Link | eBay

Thank you so much!

[Motor City]

Missing Link's is the base Cutlass hood; the base 442 hood has the simulated louvers as pictured earlier on a real car

Edited October 11, 2023 by Motor City

[mikos]

On 11/19/2022 at 6:52 PM, Daddyfink said:

 

Nice build!  However, that flat saggy upper window line and the elongated front wheel well shape really bothers me.  

[Motor City]

14 hours ago, mikos said:

Nice build!  However, that flat saggy upper window line and the elongated front wheel well shape really bothers me.  

Hopefully they will come out with a convertible version.

[Merkur XR4Ti]

20 hours ago, Motor City said:

Missing Link's is the base Cutlass hood; the base 442 hood has the simulated louvers as pictured earlier on a real car

I believe that Model Car Garage has a photoetch sheet with those louvers.

[niteowl7710]

10 hours ago, Motor City said:

Hopefully they will come out with a convertible version.

...there already was a Convertible version. Three of them. This is kit is based on the '72 Convertible kit with a new body, glass and interior pieces.

[Zoom Zoom]

On 10/10/2023 at 6:34 PM, mikos said:

Nice build!  However, that flat saggy upper window line and the elongated front wheel well shape really bothers me.  

It's astounding how often Revell does stuff like this. I have to wonder if there are any functional eyeballs present in the room when reviewing CAD files and test shots, etc. I hadn't noticed the elongated front wheel opening because my eyes cannot unsee those sad/saggy drip rails. That's not that hard to fix, but c'mon, it shouldn't have happened in the first place. 

[mikos]

52 minutes ago, Zoom Zoom said:

It's astounding how often Revell does stuff like this. I have to wonder if there are any functional eyeballs present in the room when reviewing CAD files and test shots, etc. I hadn't noticed the elongated front wheel opening because my eyes cannot unsee those sad/saggy drip rails. That's not that hard to fix, but c'mon, it shouldn't have happened in the first place. 

It throws off the front fender shape as well.  It’s like the front half of the model is slightly stretched out.

[Motor City]

12 hours ago, niteowl7710 said:

...there already was a Convertible version. Three of them. This is kit is based on the '72 Convertible kit with a new body, glass and interior pieces.

James,

I meant a '71 442 convertible kit.

[Mark]

Wouldn't be a stretch to swap parts between '71 coupe and '72 convertible kits, to end up with a '71 convertible and '72 coupe.  

[Rob Hall]

14 minutes ago, Mark said:

Wouldn't be a stretch to swap parts between '71 coupe and '72 convertible kits, to end up with a '71 convertible and '72 coupe.  

The differences between a '71 442 and '72 442 are pretty trivial...the tailights and maybe the seat upholstery pattern? 

[niteowl7710]

59 minutes ago, Motor City said:

James,

I meant a '71 442 convertible kit.

The 71 Coupe was something done afterwards in terms of the tooling, there was never a roofed car baked into the original tooling. So doing a '71 Convertible would require making an additional insert with the 71 Upholstery Pattern on the Convertible specific door panels. Which granted wouldn't be the world's largest investment, but I'm not sure they'd necessarily sell well enough considering the pace of the 1972s. The only one of those that really moved quickly was the one with the Linda Vaughn figurine that also happened to have the correct grilles to do a Cutlass Supreme.

[Mark]

46 minutes ago, Rob Hall said:

The differences between a '71 442 and '72 442 are pretty trivial...the tailights and maybe the seat upholstery pattern? 

Taillights are different, I believe the rear bumpers in the kits may be different (they aren't on the actual cars, but might be in the kits for some reason).  Jo-Han did the promos back in the day, '71 and '72 interiors were the same in those so I'm guessing changes were minimal.  The 1:1 '72 midsized GM cars were holdovers; what appeared for '73 were originally set to be the '72s but a strike at GM pushed them back.

[Motor City]

For '71 and '72, the hardtops and convertibles used different seat patterns.  The interior door panels also differ in that the 442 and Cutlass Supreme convertibles (and Cutlass Supreme hardtop) used door pull straps in the center of the simulated wood grain panel.  As stated, the rear bumper could come off of the '71.  If the door panels in the '72 H/O or Pace Car are correct, then swapping parts isn't a big deal. 

By the way, the '72 Jo-Han kit's rear bumper was modified for the 3-over-3 taillight pattern. 

[mikos]

7 hours ago, niteowl7710 said:

The 71 Coupe was something done afterwards in terms of the tooling, there was never a roofed car baked into the original tooling. So doing a '71 Convertible would require making an additional insert with the 71 Upholstery Pattern on the Convertible specific door panels. Which granted wouldn't be the world's largest investment, but I'm not sure they'd necessarily sell well enough considering the pace of the 1972s. The only one of those that really moved quickly was the one with the Linda Vaughn figurine that also happened to have the correct grilles to do a Cutlass Supreme.

It looks like they just added a different insert to make the hardtop out of the convertible tooling.  The front wheel well shape has the same inaccurate stretched out flattened shape as the convertible.  That is, unless they copied/cloned the convertible tooling and made a hardtop version out of it.  

[Robberbaron]

On 10/11/2023 at 7:52 PM, Zoom Zoom said:

It's astounding how often Revell does stuff like this. I have to wonder if there are any functional eyeballs present in the room when reviewing CAD files and test shots, etc. I hadn't noticed the elongated front wheel opening because my eyes cannot unsee those sad/saggy drip rails. That's not that hard to fix, but c'mon, it shouldn't have happened in the first place. 

For about the last 15 years, it seems like it's a 50/50 proposition whether Revell will manage to get the body correct on any new release.  For every '68 and '69 Chevelle kit (which most people seemed to agree looked nuts on correct), you also get a '69 Nova or '67 Camaro kit with at least one major proportional or contour error (maybe only one problem if you're lucky).

This one is especially infuriating because Johan already did the 70-72 442's with their typical great proportional accuracy.  All Revell needed to do was get a hold of a USA Oldies '70 442 and give it to their team to clone the body.

Edited October 13, 2023 by Robberbaron