"The Rumour Mill"

[keyser]

That seems reasonable. AWB 65 Chevelle and 64 Cutlass easily can use same chassis off clone. 
Did @Mark or @tim boyd mention one of the Pro Stocks was not possible? 
Im still hoping for one of the factory show cars. 

[64Comet404]

2 hours ago, Stef said:

Was thinking the same thing, @larman. From rewatching HPI Guy's Falcon and Nova AWB build videos, they appear to use very similar chassis setups, plastic tires and all. I wonder if that same AWB chassis was used under the original Streaker kit.

The chassis for the Streaker kit was shared with the '65 Malibu and '58 Edsel kits. Similar in design to the Nova kit, but different in shape and size.

[Raoul Ross]

Looking at the frame in this 'modest' ebay listing https://www.ebay.com/itm/203708050945?hash=item2f6df22e01:g:0a8AAOSwao5hmVz0  , I recognize that frame is also in the Mustang Funny car.

 

Actually a not very accurate round tube frame.

Edited August 8, 2022 by Raoul Ross

[stavanzer]

I suspect that the Original "Hanger Shot" that started this whole adventure had the Altered Wheelbase Body from the Streaker on it. Round2 Might re-create the Chevelle/Edsel Chassis, or just use the one in the Mustang with some kind of "Newly Tooled" parts hack to make the body and chassis work together now, even if it is not quite how it worked in the OG kit.

We will know eventually. 

[Stef]

2 hours ago, 64Comet404 said:

The chassis for the Streaker kit was shared with the '65 Malibu and '58 Edsel kits. Similar in design to the Nova kit, but different in shape and size.

 

1 hour ago, Raoul Ross said:

Looking at the frame in this 'modest' ebay listing https://www.ebay.com/itm/203708050945?hash=item2f6df22e01:g:0a8AAOSwao5hmVz0  , I recognize that frame is also in the Mustang Funny car.

 

Actually a not very accurate round tube frame.

 

1 hour ago, stavanzer said:

I suspect that the Original "Hanger Shot" that started this whole adventure had the Altered Wheelbase Body from the Streaker on it. Round2 Might re-create the Chevelle/Edsel Chassis, or just use the one in the Mustang with some kind of "Newly Tooled" parts hack to make the body and chassis work together now, even if it is not quite how it worked in the OG kit.

We will know eventually. 

 

Wow, you guys are legends! I learn so much from you cats, every single day. Just found this 58 Edsel AWB instruction sheet on Worthpoint.

Looks like the Olds Streaker is fait accompli. Well done, gentlemen.

[Raoul Ross]

I think it's also in the Nova Twister/Rat Packer and the '63 Tempest, all labeled as 'Funny Car'.

[stavanzer]

Here are a bunch of the Cars with those Chassis.

I cannot find Directions for the Streaker itself.

You can see that AMT used a similar Chassis with two different Front Axle configurations. One with tiny leaf springs, and one without.

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-1958-edsel-unre/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-1965-afx-falcon/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-chevy-ii-funny-/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-mercury-psyclon/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-mustang-high-ro/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-super-boss-funn/?view=roll

These are all very simple kits. Fun to build, but not really accurate or very detailed. You can see that the engines and other parts are sort of 'Mixed & Matched', with Injected and blown engines put in kits with no real plan.

I really like these kits, and have several of them.

The Streaker or the '65 Chevelle would be Awesome to have back.

[GMP440]

1 hour ago, stavanzer said:

I suspect that the Original "Hanger Shot" that started this whole adventure had the Altered Wheelbase Body from the Streaker on it. Round2 Might re-create the Chevelle/Edsel Chassis, or just use the one in the Mustang with some kind of "Newly Tooled" parts hack to make the body and chassis work together now, even if it is not quite how it worked in the OG kit.

We will know eventually. 

Can someone post that hanger shot here?

[Raoul Ross]

21 minutes ago, stavanzer said:

Here are a bunch of the Cars with those Chassis.

I cannot find Directions for the Streaker itself.

You can see that AMT used a similar Chassis with two different Front Axle configurations. One with tiny leaf springs, and one without.

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-1958-edsel-unre/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-1965-afx-falcon/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-chevy-ii-funny-/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-mercury-psyclon/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-mustang-high-ro/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-super-boss-funn/?view=roll

These are all very simple kits. Fun to build, but not really accurate or very detailed. You can see that the engines and other parts are sort of 'Mixed & Matched', with Injected and blown engines put in kits with no real plan.

I really like these kits, and have several of them.

The Streaker or the '65 Chevelle would be Awesome to have back.

Interesting that out of all those 'Funny Car' kits, the Psyclon was the only real Flopper.

[stavanzer]

Yeah, Raoul, it is.

I believe that these kits date back to AMT's "Bad Old Days" when they needed to produce new kits to sell, without having the budget for new tooling.

Hence, they scrounged bodies from their Tool Bank, added the generic tube chassis and hopped up engines, plus decals, and had "New" kits to sell for a comparatively small outlay for tooling. I believe that this helps to explain the clearly 'Ad Hoc' nature of the kits. They look 'thrown together' because they were Thrown Together.......

Meant for the kits and teens who were the major market at the time, they did not have to be right as much as be "Cool". And they were, as the series continued for quite some time, apparently.

At least, the above is my theory. I could be completely wrong. John Mueller, Dennis Doty and Tim Boyd, along with other who know more can probably give much better answers. 

[stavanzer]

21 minutes ago, GMP440 said:

Can someone post that hanger shot here?

Dang, George, I would If I could. The pic is on the Round2 Website in their blog and over 10 years old by now.

It might be in one of the threads discussing the '64 Olds convertible kit, when it was first confirmed. I am not Autist enough tonight to read them all and look it up. Normally I would but It's been a 60 Hour weekend, and I'm toasted.....

[keyser]

@GMP440 @stavanzer???

 

[Stef]

12 hours ago, stavanzer said:

Here are a bunch of the Cars with those Chassis.

I cannot find Directions for the Streaker itself.

You can see that AMT used a similar Chassis with two different Front Axle configurations. One with tiny leaf springs, and one without.

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-1958-edsel-unre/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-1965-afx-falcon/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-chevy-ii-funny-/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-mercury-psyclon/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-mustang-high-ro/?view=roll

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt-super-boss-funn/?view=roll

These are all very simple kits. Fun to build, but not really accurate or very detailed. You can see that the engines and other parts are sort of 'Mixed & Matched', with Injected and blown engines put in kits with no real plan.

I really like these kits, and have several of them.

The Streaker or the '65 Chevelle would be Awesome to have back.

Thank you so much for all this info, @stavanzer, @Raoul Ross. I have a sudden urge to build ALL of these classics.

While I don't have the Tempest instructions to add to the above, here is a RoR video, which features the leafspring front suspension:

 

 

[stavanzer]

I forgot the Tempest.

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt63tempestfunnyfa/?view=roll#1

Here you go, Stef.

[Stef]

16 hours ago, Raoul Ross said:

Interesting that out of all those 'Funny Car' kits, the Psyclon was the only real Flopper.

After reviewing the Psyclone instructions linked above, just remembered that HPI Guy did a video a few years back on what appears to be a "clone" of the Psyclone; Dyno Don's Eliminator II kit:

 

[Stef]

3 hours ago, stavanzer said:

I forgot the Tempest.

https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/amt-instructions/straightline-competition/amt63tempestfunnyfa/?view=roll#1

Here you go, Stef.

Thanks, @stavanzer, this is awesome. I'll track down all these kits, remortgage the house, and build myself a whole fleet of AWB gassers, dragsters, and floppers, heh.

[Mark]

Those chassis were probably designed that way so that the parts could be interchanged between cars by builders.  Use the front section from the Mustang or Falcon chassis if you are trying to replicate a Chevelle or Nova that had a cross spring setup.  Cut the chassis and lengthen it with pieces of parts trees if you want the wheelbase closer to stock, to match a particular 1:1 car. 

The interiors are simple too, they can be altered if you "un-shorten" the wheelbase on any of them.  Swap the blower from the Chevelle onto the Nova if you want a different setup.  I haven't tried it, but I'd bet that, for example, the Barracuda body might drop onto the Mustang's interior and chassis if you don't want a mid-engine 'Cuda.  (You'd have to move the rear wheel openings on the body, or mess with the chassis.)  If not a perfect fit, a piece of sheet plastic here and there might make the interior look like it belongs.

[Daddyfink]

Kit looks pretty accurate! LOL! 

[unclescott58]

Looking at recent posts here, I want the Edsel Funny Car. As strange and as bizarre as it maybe, I’d go for it. 

[ChrisBcritter]

I'd take it if they found the original '58 body.

[GMP440]

7 hours ago, unclescott58 said:

Looking at recent posts here, I want the Edsel Funny Car. As strange and as bizarre as it maybe, I’d go for it. 

Well here is a built up of one.  Maybe this will be the big announcement?

[keyser]

Does it have a ? on the diff?

Edited August 10, 2022 by keyser

[stavanzer]

On 8/9/2022 at 10:33 AM, Stef said:

Thanks, @stavanzer, this is awesome. I'll track down all these kits, remortgage the house, and build myself a whole fleet of AWB gassers, dragsters, and floppers, heh.

Stef, think of these as "Potato Chip Kits". You cannot build just one. The Model King Tempests have gotten Stupid Expensive online, but there are lots of them out there, and if you don't mind making up your own paint and decals, you can turn out tons of these simple , Fun kits. They are fun!

[unclescott58]

16 hours ago, keyser said:

Does it have a ? on the diff?

Please say “NO” to the smiley face on the differential! ?

[blizzy63]

2 hours ago, unclescott58 said:

Please say “NO” to the smiley face on the differential! ?

...but an outhouse door bolted to the front is OK.... ??