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I picked up a few kits some months ago, and these three were in the lot.  I believe the two Indy cars (Indy?  Formula?) to be Lotus cars - but I'm not sure.   The Porsche also has me stumped.  Clearly it's a 911, or something related to the 911, but I'm trying to identify the kit.   Any ideas?

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29 minutes ago, jokar124 said:

The first car is a Heller Formula 1 Lotus 49B, built and painted to resemble a McLaren

 

The second Indy car is not a Lotus, it's MPC's Dan Gurney Olsonite Eagle, built as the Denny Hulme version.

 

At least I had the brands correct!😂 I knew those, based on the tires.

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11 hours ago, mr moto said:

I don't know the kit manufacturer but the top car is no Lotus. It appears be a McLaren M7A (Google it) with the wing installed backwards.

 

10 hours ago, Jonathan said:

I'm wondering if this is actually something other than 1/25 or 1/24 scale.   It seems a touch bigger than other stuff I have.

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Here is the real  Lotus 49B that matches up to the built model. If the built model is too large to be 1/24 scale, then it might be one of several 1/20 scale kits made by either Ebbro or Model Factory Hiro, but I haven't found a kit where every detail matches up exactly, although the tires do appear to be Ebbro's.

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7 hours ago, jokar124 said:

 

Here is the real  Lotus 49B that matches up to the built model. If the built model is too large to be 1/24 scale, then it might be one of several 1/20 scale kits made by either Ebbro or Model Factory Hiro, but I haven't found a kit where every detail matches up exactly, although the tires do appear to be Ebbro's.

 

It's a mystery!  

Looking at Scalemates.com, I thought it might be the Ebbro 1/20 Lotus 49C, but the wing is wrong for that, based on the instructions on that site.  Almost everything else matches.  Well, I think so anyway.  

https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/6/5/2/155652-34-instructions.pdf

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/ebbro-20006-lotus-49c--155652

 

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Both the Lotus 49 and M7A had a wheelbase of a shade under 8ft (96 inches). Based on the ruler in your pictures, it looks like the wheelbase on the model is around 6”, which would make the scale 1/16. 60s race cars in that scale are few and far between (1/12 and 1/20 are standard, with a few outliers in 1/24 like the Hellers). My guess would be it’s 70s era kit from one of the Bandai/Entex/Nitto/Eidai companies in Japan that we’re doing quite a few models in 1/16 at that time…

best,

M.

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14 hours ago, Jonathan said:

It's a mystery!  

Looking at Scalemates.com, I thought it might be the Ebbro 1/20 Lotus 49C, but the wing is wrong for that, based on the instructions on that site.  Almost everything else matches.  Well, I think so anyway.  

https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/6/5/2/155652-34-instructions.pdf

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/ebbro-20006-lotus-49c--155652

 

Mystery solved thanks to SpotModel!  The Ebbro Lotus 49B kit contains the optional low wing.

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