remingtonbox Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Well... this isn't the way I wanted to start my first WIP post but... Our club meeting is in two weeks and I want to take the Bug that I am working on but this happened when I sprayed the primer: First of all, what in the world happened and how do I fix it? I am using Rustoleum primer as the nearest "L"HS is 2½ hours away. Secondly, I used 3-4 very light mist coats... and let it dry about 15-30 minutes between coats. Please help! This project is about to meet the business end of a sledge hammer! I tried to strip it in DOT3... but the brake fluid didn't even touch it... is it a plastic problem? As a last resort, does anyone have a body from the Gunze Sanyo kit that I can buy from them? Thanks a million!!!!! Remington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randx0 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) I'm not sure which rustoleum you used but I would recommend duplicolor or plasticote sandable primers available at your local autoparts store.also try superclean for removing unwanted paint.as for what to do now try sanding it out use small pieces of 400 to 1000 grit wet dry sandpaper also available at the auto parts store .when you get a chance check out some of the hobby sites for a polishing kit it has sandpaper grits from 2400 up to 12000 that you use to smooth out paint .I use the 2400 to 3600 grits to go over primer in between coats to keep it all smooth as you improve your painting techniques this process will be less important but starting out it helps a lot. also several companies make the same polishing grits in sanding pads which are also helpful. as to what happened it looks like the primer dries fast or was not dry enough and maybe the can was too far away.hope this helps. Edited September 28, 2009 by randx0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGary Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 O.K. I'll throw in my 2 cents. I'm guessing you held the can too far away and the primer partially dried before it hit the body, or the humidity could have been too high. I also guess that this can of primer might be old and deteriorating. Did you shake it upreal good? Was the temperature in the room/outside above 65 degrees? Did you warm the can of primer before spraying? Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cole Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Try using "Super Clean" (the purple stuff) leaving it soak for at least 48 hours. It may need a scrubbing with an old toothbrush. I avoid any Rustoleum products. It's not made for plastic; I have never seen plastic "rust", with maybe the exception of ###### Cranky's kits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Rustoleum is a thick paint to begin with and it looks like you may have put on too many coats. One was drying while the other was being put on and the bubbles are from the off gassing from the drying paint. Like said in the previous post, try to stick with automotive lacquers like Duplicolor and Plasticote. As for getting it off, soak it in either 90% alcohol or try using Castrol Super Clean. Another product I've had really good results with is called Scalecoat II. If you can find it, it works really well. I hope you're able to get the paint off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 As I haven't a clue as to what you did to get here, I'd pick a spot and sand through the primer with around 600 sandpaper to see if it's just paint or if the plastic was attacked. If the plastic was attacked, you're SOL, as the body is ruined. As far as stripper to use fot Rustolium I haven't a clue - never used Rustoleum primers. Like the guy's said here, use DUPLICOLOR OR PLASTICOTE in the future. Some here seem to have pretty good luck with Tamiya's primers also. Personally, I like Duplicolor primer and have had no problems with the one I've used for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) First off let me say sorry to hear of such a f'ed up situation. No worries it can be saved. It brake fluid didn't work I'd be very surprised if Super Clean will do anything, the primer is lacquer based. Before you go to all the trouble of sanding the body go out and get yourself some Easy-Off in the yellow spray pump bottle, a couple of bottles. Empty the bottle into a conatiner just big enouogh fore the bug and fill it with the Easy Off. Leave it in there for 24-48hrs, the plastic won't be harmed. Plus if you go this route you'll have a chrome removal bath as well. I just just removed automotive lacquer for a 1/16 scale Charger that had so much paint on it the panel lines were, filled and the script was almost flush with the body. The paint had been on for along time 'cause the lady said her son built it when he was a kid, he's in his 40's now. I had picked it up at garage sale. For me it took about a month to get the paint off, mostly because I only sprayed the body once a day instead of soaking it. In the second picture you can see how thick the paint was, that row of bumps are supposed to be rivet heads. Just as an added FYI I still have to get the primer off. Good luck man hope you get it resolved. Edited September 28, 2009 by Plastic Freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nascarfan Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Looks like the plastic is effected as well I would just buy another kit and start fresh with some dupli color primer and save yourself a lot of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remingtonbox Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) Well... I got some 90.5% alcohol just now... but it doesnt cover the bug in the container. I have a lid but does the item you are trying to strip have to be completely covered? Thanks so so so so much for all the help. I would have bought some super clean but the nearest place that carries it is 30-45 minutes away. I hope this works! Remington On a total side note... how do the pictures (except the last one) look? I am trying to get to the point of ###### Cranky, Bill Geary and others on this board that have photography skills to die for. Edited September 28, 2009 by remingtonbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randx0 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Well... I got some 90.5% alcohol just now... but it doesnt cover the bug in the container. I have a lid but does the item you are trying to strip have to be completely covered? Thanks so so so so much for all the help. I would have bought some super clean but the nearest place that carries it is 30-45 minutes away. I hope this works! Remington On a total side note... how do the pictures (except the last one) look? I am trying to get to the point of Clay, Dave and others on this board that have photography skills to die for. I haven't used the alcohol but when using chemicals it should be covered to prevent dangerous situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remingtonbox Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Questions, questions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randx0 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 you probably need more ,however maybe you want to wait and see how this works for you before you go and get more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Not to sound like a dic but, your spinning your wheels with the alcohol, the primer is solvent based, alcohol won't do a thing. The Easy- Off WILL WORK and you'll be back to square on in a couple of hours. I sprayed my Charger when I posted and almost all of the primer is off. I hope you get this sorted out. Cheers, Curt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remingtonbox Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Not to sound like a dic but, your spinning your wheels with the alcohol, the primer is solvent based, alcohol won't do a thing. The Easy- Off WILL WORK and you'll be back to square on in a couple of hours. I sprayed my Charger when I posted and almost all of the primer is off. I hope you get this sorted out. Cheers, Curt So this Easy Off... do you get it at Safeway or ALCO? Those are my two options... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie8575 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Easy-Off is at almost any store; grocery, hardware, Wal-Mart. Or a generic equivalent. A word to the wise: use it in a VERY WELL VENTILATED area and use gloves of some kind. Easy-Off will work on almost anything, so it's definitely worth a shot. Charlie Larkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Safeway should have it, just ask where the oven cleaner is, any brand should work as long as it's the heavy duty version. Try not to get it in a spray can tho, the fumes are very toxic. Let us know how you make out. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remingtonbox Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Well… I have the Bug in 32 ounces of Easy-Off. We will check back this time tomorrow and see what transpires! I couldn't find the sprayer kind so we got the aerosol. THANK YOU!!! Remington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie8575 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Safeway should have it, just ask where the oven cleaner is, any brand should work as long as it's the heavy duty version. Try not to get it in a spray can tho, the fumes are very toxic. Let us know how you make out. Good luck. I didn't know they were making it in spray bottles now? Duly noted. I stopped using it because of the stink and toxicity. Good to know. Charlie Larkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 So how are ya makin' out so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remingtonbox Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well, so far so good... I scrubbed it a little last night and a lot of the primer came off. I resoaked it today and I hope I can prime tonight with some Plasticote. Thank you so so so so so so much for all the help! Remington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis321 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 well thats sucks hope it comes out better this time travis l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nascarfan Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well, so far so good... I scrubbed it a little last night and a lot of the primer came off. I resoaked it today and I hope I can prime tonight with some Plasticote. Thank you so so so so so so much for all the help! Remington The plastic is not effected? It looks crazed in the pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well, so far so good... I scrubbed it a little last night and a lot of the primer came off. I resoaked it today and I hope I can prime tonight with some Plasticote. Thank you so so so so so so much for all the help! Remington No problem, that's what makes the on-line community go 'round knowing you can turn to it for help. I just finished peeling, yes peeling, more paint off the Charger hood. I still have a large section on a corner and also an area on the body where the hood latch would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remingtonbox Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well then... we can peel as friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well then... we can peel as friends LoL, sound good, here's a couple shots of the last bit of paint being peeled off. It's back in the acid pond for the next couple hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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