Zoom Zoom Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 This idea hatched from ideas of what to do w/a new Camaro, w/o making it a Camaro. I was thinking of using it as a basis for a modern 'cuda, since I like the overall proportions of the Camaro better than the Challenger. We have a "Retro in the Metro" theme for our NNL in 2 weeks. We have a Challenger, Camaro, and Mustang illustrated on our flyer. One of my cohorts was planning to build one of each for the show. I realized I might be able to do all three in one model. Hmmmm.. I like the main body of the Camaro better than the Challenger. I like the Challenger front end better than the Camaro. Once the idea was in my head to add Mustang to the equation, it all came together, because I found out pretty quickly that the three could combine into one. Hopefully it'll be ready in 2 weeks for our show. It's almost ready for color. A modeling friend suggested the name "Menage", I might respell it "Menaj", or call it "Flashback", since I see other cars in it as well. The Camaro front end is longer than the Challenger, I cast the stock hood and lengthened it using two resin hoods grafted together. The front is longer, but the model will use Camaro chassis/interior, wheelbase is shorter than Challenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randx0 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think that is awesome.You certainly made it look easy,but I know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) That's really a nice lookin' car Bob It looks like a factory design. The idea, the visual, and the execution are brilliant , but my brain is sorta messed up cause it's not sure how to "CATALOGUE" it - three cars in one??? That'll give them something to ponder when they have to put it in a catagory . Have fun at the show . Edited October 31, 2009 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george 53 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Bob, Ya hit THIS rascal OUT THA PARK!!!!! That is SOOOO cool it's TOOOOO Cool!!! I LOVE it! If you don't get SOMETHIN for it,Welp then, them judges got NO imagination! But at least you'll be the ONLY kid onna block with a Camlengertang!!! I WANT one!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Challarostang? Sounds like something you'd get at Taco Bell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Challarostang? Sounds like something you'd get at Taco Bell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 Bob, Ya hit THIS rascal OUT THA PARK!!!!! That is SOOOO cool it's TOOOOO Cool!!! I LOVE it! If you don't get SOMETHIN for it,Welp then, them judges got NO imagination! But at least you'll be the ONLY kid onna block with a Camlengertang!!! I WANT one!!!! Thanks! It's an NNL, everything is popular vote, and I never expect anything...the trophies to me are the models themselves I just get jazzed up to build something for a theme, w/o even thinking about competition. There aren't many judged contests I go to. This beast is a styling exercise, so it's not going to be pretty underneath (if you've ever seen a 1:1 concept car...same story, you don't want to see "the man behind the curtain" so to speak). Curbside, no motor, chassis there to locate the body and hang the four wheels. I am pretty psyched because I love the styling, it just seems to work, and I can have something unique that nobody else has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 Challarostang? Sounds like something you'd get at Taco Bell! Maybe you, but not me Then again, I don't think I'd order a "Menaj" or "Flashback" from them either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Well, whatever you wind up calling it, it looks pretty cool... especially the rear 3/4 view. You certainly "fixed" the Camaro's styling, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Then again, I don't think I'd order a "Menaj" or "Flashback" from them either Isn't a "flashback" what happens about an hour or two after you eat at Taco Bell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 Well, whatever you wind up calling it, it looks pretty cool... especially the rear 3/4 view. You certainly "fixed" the Camaro's styling, that's for sure. Thanks; in a perfect world I would have made the back end 1/8" shorter. One of my best friends looked at it, and said "after looking at it, there's one thing I would change...", I then interjected "the back end is 1/8" too long but I'm not going to change it" and he said that's exactly what he was going to suggest. It would have given the car a bit more "fastback" look. And if I had a 2010 Mustang to work with, the tapered corners would have done the trick. Anyway, thanks for the comments, I do like where this is going, as it does take care of the things that I disliked about the Camaro and Challenger...whereas the Mustang element is sort of along for the ride, but it works. I will be painting it Grabber Orange and it will have Mustang wheels, so it'll be a bit more cohesive when it's done. I hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I like how you reworked the seam at the back between the body and the "bumper"... good placement, good eye for detail and cohesive design. Most people will never notice that detail when the model is done, because it's not noticeable... it just looks right. When you look at the primed body, you really have to look twice to even see what's "different"... and that's a good thing, because it means the design works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Geisler Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Bob.... This thing is SICK..... and I FREAKIN LOVE IT.............now hurry up and finish it... Power plant??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairus Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Power plant??? Ford flat-head of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxer Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Such a beautiful, thorough design! People will stare forever trying to figure what it is. It looks "stock". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSNJim Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Looks great! All the different elements merge together very well. I don't think the rear is too long - the car has a beautiful long, low, look. One of the things I don't like about the donor cars is the extremely tall height from the side windows to the rocker panels. That is not so apparent now. The one thing I would change is the "Aero" panel on the bottom of the Mustang bumper. It doesn't match the rest of the car. This is one of my favorite customs. It just looks right. Looking forward to seeing it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizio93 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Wow man that takes Kahunas to put 3 of the biggest American car company's together to create a muscle car . I never liked the front of the new camaro and that challenger front looks really good on it. Can't wait to see where this build goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelmartin Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 And the really interesting thing is that it looks better than all 3 of the organ donors!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Wow! What a neat kitbash!! How's this for a name................"Muschallmaro". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modlbldr Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It looks beautiful, Bob. What a great idea. I think though that I, too, would remove that "Aero" piece on the bottom of the Mustang bumper. It doesn't seem to fit. However, I would leave the exhaust cutouts because they seem to match the running lights/turn signals of the Challenger front. It would sort of tie the front and back together. I can't wait to see this one finished. Later- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadkill2525 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Is this how the new AMC will build the Javelin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 The one thing I would change is the "Aero" panel on the bottom of the Mustang bumper. It doesn't match the rest of the car. This is one of my favorite customs. It just looks right. Looking forward to seeing it done. Thanks! The aero panel on the rear fascia will be blacked out like the GT500 & GT500KR, along w/part of the rocker area, and the chin spoiler that's not shown in these photos. It should be balanced & not out of place once the three lower areas are tied together visually by the black details. Getting rid of it by smoothing it out would make for too much unbroken vertical height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizio93 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Now i know that it's probably a little late, but that hood would look really sick with the GT500KR front scoop on it (maybe ?) I still looks really good though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Flowers Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 That is the great thing about modeling. If you can dream it you can build it. That just works together so well. Who would have thought? What are you going to do on the interior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 What are you going to do on the interior? As little as possible; AMT Camaro interior painted black. This is a styling exercise; one reason I went w/the AMT kit was it has side glass...allowing me to put the lion's share of work on the exterior, and downplay the interior. I'll use a better steering wheel/column, but w/the narrow openings & side glass most interior detail won't show well anyway. Many styling bucks don't even have full interiors. This model is also being built as a curbside...no engine. Just a provocative "what if"...though in real life I'd like to have it with something like a ZR1/CTS-V powerplant & an Audi S5-like interior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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