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Nick Winter

'77-'78 Pontiac Firebird/ Trans Am Build Thread

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I'm a big F body Pontiac fan, the '75-'81 body style being my favorite, And There were 6 options in F body Pontiacs:

1977 Model year

Model

Base model Firebird V6- $4269- production 30,642 both V6 & V8

Base model Firebird V6- $4334

Firebird Esprit V6- $4550- production 34,548 both V6 & V8

Firebird Esprit V8- $4615

Firebird Formula- $4976- production 21,801

Trans Am- $5456- production 68,745

Options

301-cid V-8 $65

350-cid four-barrel V-8 (Firebird) $155

350-cid four-barrel V-8 (Formula) $90

400-cid four-barrel V-8 (Formula) $155 - $205

400-cid four-barrel V-8 (Trans Am) $50

Four-speed manual transmission (Firebird) $257

Turbo-Hydra-Matic $248

Safe-T-Track differential $54

Rally RTS handling package $46 - $116

Heavy-duty battery $16 - $18

Maintenance-free battery $31

Heavy-duty alternator $45

Engine block heater $12 - $13

Esprit Skybird appearance package $325 - $342

Trans Am Special Edition $556 - $1143

Firebird custom trim group $27 - $118

Formula appearance package $127

Air conditioning $442 - $540

Cruise control $80 - $84

Power windows $108 - $151

Glass sunroof $587

Canopy top $105

Rear spoiler $51

Introduced Sept. 30, 1976

1978 Model Year

Model

Base model Firebird V6- $4545- production 32,672 both V6 & V8

Base model Firebird V8- $4695

Esprit V6- $4842- production 36,926 both V6 & V8

Esprit V8- $4992

Formula- $5448- production 24,346

Trans Am- $5799- production 93,341

Options

305-cid four-barrel V-8 $150

350-cid four-barrel V-8 (Firebird) $265

350-cid four-barrel V-8 (Formula) $115

400-cid four-barrel V-8 (Formula) $280

403-cid four-barrel V-8 (Formula) $205

Four-speed manual floor shift transmission $125

Four-speed manual floor shift transmission $182 credit

Turbo-Hydra-Matic transmission $270

Turbo-Hydra-Matic transmission N/C

Safe-T-Track differential $60

Power brakes $60

Heavy-duty alternator $31

Engine block heater $13

Esprit "Skybird" appearance package $426 - $461

Trans Am special edition $1259

Firebird custom trim group $35 - $154

Formula appearance package $137

Trans Am special performance package $249 - $324

Air conditioning $470 - $581

Cruise control $90 - $95

Power windows $118 - $190

Hatch roof $625

Canopy top $111

Introduced Oct. 6, 1977

I've all ready built a '77 Trans am and a '78 Firebird Esprit V8, so that leaves a '78 Firebird formula and a '77 Base model V8

Edited by Dukefan69'

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I see a Redbird but no Skybird?

Do you have Michael Lamm's excellent book, "The Fabulous Firebird"? Lots of pics, behind the scenes info, and enough facts and specs to please even the most avid F-body nut.

Perhaps my second favorite Formula ever, a '76:

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I do have his book, and funny enough my cousin Ted has a '76 Firebird Formula that's white with blue graphics.

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Dukefan69, you could also get the WS6 package on the 78 Trans Am.

My stepsister had a 78 Trans Am (blue) with the WS6.

Just thought I would point it out,didn't know if you included it in your packages...

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And one on the "Ladybirds." I didn't make up the name, I swear.

Ooooh, excellent 'site, thanks! The Yellow Bord is so ugly I think I like it. :D

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Chris: Thanks the WWW.78TA.com site I've been on a few times but until keith marks comes out with Yellow Bird, Sky bird or Red bird decals I won't be building any of them.

and thanks guys

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Well it was almost unamous with:

'77 Base Model Firebird v8- 4

'78 Firebird Forula- 22

So time to dig the kit out and start body working her, got a order in to Keith for the '76 Formula decals which "will" fit my '78 kit. Also need to pick some options.

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Well here be my options first we start with a base model, then order the U97 Package for $137, now we have us a Formula.

Other Added options include,

403CI olds engine for $205

power brakes for $60

heavy-duty alternator for $31

A/C for $581

power windows for $190

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dug out my kit, found that there was no glass, found another set of rallyes like on jim's car

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Other Added options include,

403CI olds engine for $205

Sounds like you've got a heck of a build idea going!

Not to criticize Nick, but the Oldsmobile engine was not very good. The Pontiac engine was much better, and was a better built powerplant. If you decide to build the Olds, that would be cool though.

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Sounds like you've got a heck of a build idea going!

Not to criticize Nick, but the Oldsmobile engine was not very good. The Pontiac engine was much better, and was a better built powerplant. If you decide to build the Olds, that would be cool though.

Thanks Marshal, the reason I chose the Olds 403 is that I have 2 Pontiac F bodies with 400's in them, my Base model and '76 Jimmy's Bird will have 350's

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Im with Marshal on the engine opinion, there wasnt a olds powered TA in town that could take mine with the 400 cid.4bb auto. i even went up against a turbo TA and beat it....

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Im with Marshal on the engine opinion, there wasnt a olds powered TA in town that could take mine with the 400 cid.4bb auto. i even went up against a turbo TA and beat it....

Like I said in my above post I don't want 3 F boies with 400's and 2 with 350's, I'd rather 2 350's, 2 400's and a olds 403

final poll count

Snow flake wheels 5 votes

Rallye wheels 8 votes

#75 Mayan Red 7 votes

#51 Sundance Yellow 2 votes

#11 Cameo White 1 vote

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This is my inspiration,(if you notice the interior color)

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here's another car with many of the same features

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You picked a nice car to pattern your model after, Nick. The results you achieve with your builds speaks well of your skills, too. I'll enjoy watching this come together.

Charlie Larkin

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Great looking Firebird!

Not to hijack- but if you want to go with an Olds engine the AMT '69 442 is nice and has a separate bellhousing. Even though it's meant to represent a big block 455, it seems to make a passable 403 small block.

I'm working on a '79 Anniversary T/A, the interior tub was molded for an automatic trans, so the only "proper" powertrain choice was the 403/ THM 350 (the few Pontiac 400s were reserved for 4-speed duty on the '79). I ended up adding part of the '69 Olds bellhousing to an MPC Turbo 350 to get a "BOP" pattern automatic

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Also, by this time A/C was almost universal on these cars, and an A/C system quick and easy to add. Small block Oldsmobiles since the early 70s have used a lame exhaust with a small crossover pipe connecting the driver side manifold to the passenger then a second flange to the exhaust system- works all right for a nice, quiet '78 98 Regency but the Firebird definitely would benefit from a set of headers

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Hey nick, i love f bodys as well, we used to have a 95' camaro and man would that thing fly :D

heres a little photo tip, try turning the flash off :lol: i took photography in school,im just trying to help ;)

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Not to hijack- but if you want to go with an Olds engine the AMT '69 442 is nice and has a separate bellhousing. Even though it's meant to represent a big block 455, it seems to make a passable 403 small block.

There's very little difference between a small a big-block Olds. The big-blocks had a slightly higher deck surface (top of the cylinder banks,) which allowed for a longer stroke. The difference is unnoticable in 1/25.

Charlie Larkin

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Hey nick, i love f bodys as well, we used to have a 95' camaro and man would that thing fly :D

heres a little photo tip, try turning the flash off :) i took photography in school,im just trying to help :)

thanks guys, I don't have problems with pictures, but my camera was dying right there, and is toast now, so I'm saving my nickles too replace it.

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