stavanzer Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Yeah, I'm in for one. But, I'll wait until I can score it a Hobby Lobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) I'm going to guess Revell does not have the licensing to produce the "Trans-Am" wordmark, hence why it was specifically labelled as a "Pontiac Firebird". Here's the decal sheet from the previous(?) Motor City Muscle reissue in 2006(?)?: Edited July 25, 2019 by Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 If you want to "oomph it up" a bit more, C1 models offers a restomod kit http://www.c1-models.com/resin/restomod-pontiac-firebird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I like this car a lot, but I probably won't be buying a new one--at least not at anywhere near Full Metal Retail. I built a nice white one when the kit first came out, and I recently acquired nice Welly diecasts in both white and blue and in 1/25 to boot (not 1/24). So I'm pretty much Trans Am-ed up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Casey said: I'm going to guess Revell does not have the licensing to produce the "Trans-Am" wordmark, hence why it was specifically labelled as a "Pontiac Firebird". Here's the decal sheet from the previous(?) Motor City Muscle reissue in 2006(?)?: RE : The licencing for the trademarked Trans Am : Pontiac paid a pretty penny back in c.1967 to use the 'Trans Am' name on their Firebird . Dodge didn't pay one red cent for their "suggested" ties tot he racing organisation ; that's how we ended up with the Challenger T/A . Just as the companion 1970 AAR 'Cuda ; acronyms and numbers cannot be copyrighted . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, 1972coronet said: Pontiac paid a pretty penny back in c.1967 to use the 'Trans Am' name on their Firebird . IIRC, it was $5 per car. Doesn't sound like much, but it added up to millions over the years to the SCCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I believe the Warmack brothers from the show Trans Am own the rights to the Trans Am name. They build restored and 'new' Trans Am's. I believe the show is on on Discovery. At least one season. https://www.motortrendondemand.com/show/trans-am/102287941/ Danger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuces Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I believe the scca still owns the rights to that name.... What did those brothers do? Crawl from under a rock and claimed the name "Trans-Am" as theirs????...... Sorry for the rant!... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Darby Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Deuces said: I believe the scca still owns the rights to that name.... What did those brothers do? Crawl from under a rock and claimed the name "Trans-Am" as theirs????...... Sorry for the rant!... ? More likely just paying licensing fees like everybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 As Ron stated, it builds up really nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I like the Snowflake wheels. That build turned out, very nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmb0319 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Question: in the Revell 2019 thread, it said this kit now had pad-printed Firestone Wide Ovals. At the start of this thread, it says the tires are unmarked. As I’m planning what to do with it when I purchase it, which is it? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Kmb0319 said: Question: in the Revell 2019 thread, it said this kit now had pad-printed Firestone Wide Ovals. At the start of this thread, it says the tires are unmarked. As I’m planning what to do with it when I purchase it, which is it? Thanks! Maybe because this thread was started in 2006?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Guys.....I don't have the new kit yet, but be aware that the original release of this kit tool in the early ? 1990's, had an incorrect engine. It was the 301 block from the Monogram 1981? Turbo Trans-Am version of the Firebird, not the 400 V8 from the 1978 release. Of course, the 301 didn't exist in 1970. While the 301 was derived from the original Pontiac V8 family, there were a surprising number of visual differences between the two engines including the engine block. I don't have any of the reissues since the original 1970 1/2 kit release, so I don't know if this was corrected in the interim or not. Swapping in the correct engine is an easy swap if you have any of the correct 400's in your parts box, however. Meanwhile, as I pointed out the my book Collecting Muscle Car Model Kits, the wait for a fully correct Pontiac 400 Ram Air IV in 1/24th or 1/25th scale continues.....TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcarfan27 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 All Pontiac engine blocks are the same size. Unlike Chevy, which has small and big block engine families - Pontiac's are all the same physical block. The difference is in the bore and stroke of the displacement. So the 301 should visually look the same as the 400, but internal parts are not interchangeable. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 11:57 AM, Oldcarfan27 said: All Pontiac engine blocks are the same size. Unlike Chevy, which has small and big block engine families - Pontiac's are all the same physical block. The difference is in the bore and stroke of the displacement. So the 301 should visually look the same as the 400, but internal parts are not interchangeable. Hope this helps You are, of course, correct in that all Pontiac V8 blocks are the same size. But there are definitive detail differences. The 301 block (as molded by Monogram/Revell) has features that visually distinguish it from the earlier 389/400/455 blocks. Pull out kits with both of the engines and compare closely. The differences are visible (at least they were for me). Best.....TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ellis Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I hate to rain on somebody's parade but I wish it was 1/25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, Bob Ellis said: I hate to rain on somebody's parade but I wish it was 1/25 The Welly diecast is quite nice and is true 1/25. It's available in both white and Lucerne Blue. If you get lucky, you can find them at Rite-Aid for $10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satterwhite78 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Anyone makes a formula hood that would fit this kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWT Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 I concur with Geno... it does build up nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy124 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) On 8/22/2019 at 8:38 PM, satterwhite78 said: Anyone makes a formula hood that would fit this kit? I was about to ask the same thing, as I would like to build Lester Burnham's car: Edited August 28, 2019 by Tommy124 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat0 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I know this is an old thread but I just have to comment on the subject of Trans Am. This kit is not a Trans Am, that is why there are no decals for Trans Am. It is a stock Firebird , big difference in engine and body details as well as suspension. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, strat0 said: I know this is an old thread but I just have to comment on the subject of Trans Am. This kit is not a Trans Am, that is why there are no decals for Trans Am. It is a stock Firebird , big difference in engine and body details as well as suspension. Just saying. How so? It has all the wheel opening flares, the shaker hood, the rear spoiler, etc. The decals are missing the "Trans Am" lettering because of licensing issues. What exactly is missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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