Ben Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 After seeing that Porsche Speedster in another thread with the pistons, connecting rods and crank, it got me to wondering, just how many 1/25 or 1/24 car kits out there have internal engine detail like this? I know some of the drag engines have engraved, block decks with piston heads represented and valve train detail engraved but I'm wondering about separate pieces like that Porsche has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stone Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 AMT 58 Impala has a crank, but no other rotating assembly, IIRC. The Testors 1/24 scale garage diorama has smallblock Chevy engine internals, but I don't remember what the block looks like. I think the heads are detailed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_rad88 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 i know the revell parts pack engines has cranks in them and iirc rocker arms detail, but thats about it..... also same with the engine in the amt '66 old 442, rocker arms detail....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 AMT 58 Impala has a crank, but no other rotating assembly, IIRC. The Testors 1/24 scale garage diorama has smallblock Chevy engine internals, but I don't remember what the block looks like. I think the heads are detailed too. Would that be one of those "Great Garages" kits? I have the 1/24 one but I haven't opened it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 No mass produced bi-scale kit has what you're looking for, but the Aurora 1/16 scale 417 Donovan and 392 Hemi engines come close, at least as far as the lower end is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stone Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Would that be one of those "Great Garages" kits? I have the 1/24 one but I haven't opened it yet. I think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 No mass produced bi-scale kit has what you're looking for, but the Aurora 1/16 scale 417 Donovan and 392 Hemi engines come close, at least as far as the lower end is concerned. Yeah, I have those, the Donovan's blower even has the rotors in it! I was wondering if there's anything like that in 1/25 or 1/24! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I think the old Aurora 1:25 Ford parts pack V8 had full internal detail, but good luck finding one of those things today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markus355 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 the revell parts pack engines has a crank, and camshaft in em, but thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scummy Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 AMT wynns jammer has a working crankshaft and blower rotors with a clear sump so you can see the crank turning . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMc Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 the Revell parts pack engines has a crank, and camshaft in em, but thats it. and separate block, pan , and heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 AMT wynns jammer has a working crankshaft and blower rotors with a clear sump so you can see the crank turning . Really!? Coool!!!!!! I'll have to get that one! (I might already have it!?) LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torinobradley Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Depending on the level of detail you are looking for, the old Revell tri-fives as well as the early 50s Chevy have a pretty nice block with crank detail, block deck where you can see the pistons and the heads are fairly decent as well. Those were pretty nice because the underside of the parts looked like the underside of the real thing. In other words, the intake looked like the real one from whatever point of view you used. Also, the '66 Nova has a nice extra block & heads to be displayed separately. I started trying to fit the white metal crank available some time back into that to see if I could get a rotating assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 As Casey and Ben pointed out :Aurora Racing Scenes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Chuck says: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Not to call a technical foul here, but the thread starter asked about 1/24 and 1/25. The Racing Scenes/Funnycar engines, while very impressive are 1/16. Just hoping someone would see this and do some reverse engineering down to the correct size.At least I'm not hijacking the thread with some inane comment as to "size matters" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Didn't the Aurora Parts Pack 427 Ford (at least) have piston and rod detail? I can't tell if the one above is that motor as the photo is pretty small and blowing it up makes it out of focus. Yes it did. I just can't find the bigger picture. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickRollerLT1 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 IIRC, the motors in the Revell Outlaw, Beatnik Bandit 1 (possibly 2), and Mysterion show cars have some detailed internals such as the camshaft and etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 AMT Nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 7, 2011 Author Share Posted April 7, 2011 I'm familiar with those Revell engines with the molded in detail. I didn't realize there were so many engines in "American" kits that had that much detail though. I thought it would mostly be the Fujimi/Hasagawa or Tamiya type kits that would feature the detail. I remember, years ago, taking a V8 block and making a crank from sheet plastic (counterweights) and rod stock for the journals. I then used wire to make the connecting rods and bigger plastic rod for the pistons with aluminum tube cylinders. I looked horrible but you could twist the crank and see the pistons move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 AMT Nova Note about this engine, it represents a large journal 302 or 350 4 bolt main Smallblock Chevy, rather than the 327 that would be in the 1:1 Nova. There were no small journal ('55-'67) Smallblocks with 4 bolt mains, and the only 4 bolt large journal ('68-'00) were the 302 and 350, the 327 was never produced as a 4 bolt block, other than a handfull of experimental engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 >Mysterion show cars have some detailed internals such as the camshaft which is kinda ironic because wasnt it the mysterion with its twin heavy motors, that didnt have internals to reduce the weight and strain on chassis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordairgtar Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 The 1/20th scale Ford Van, I believe by MPC had a crankshaft and a clear oil pan plus pistons. I remember trying to add oil into the pan. Not a good idea. I was 14 then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 I believe the Aurora 427 even had the gear molded to the end of the starter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) Note about this engine, it represents a large journal 302 or 350 4 bolt main Smallblock Chevy, rather than the 327 that would be in the 1:1 Nova. There were no small journal ('55-'67) Smallblocks with 4 bolt mains, and the only 4 bolt large journal ('68-'00) were the 302 and 350, the 327 was never produced as a 4 bolt block, other than a handfull of experimental engines. How do you arrive at these conclusions with such small and limiting detail ?It is labeled as an "accessory engine". Edited April 7, 2011 by Greg Myers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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