A few questions for Johan fans from IMC

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Now that the word is out about the '59 Rambler Wagon kit coming back how many of you would like to see similar releases of the old X-el promos in kit form assuming they could be done.

These would be sold with clear glass, an interior, decals and some customizing parts just like the '59 Rambler Wagon will be. In the case where no close interior tool insert could be located a new promo style interior would be tooled up.

For bragging rights, who knows how many different models (not including color variances) were sold by X-el without interiors and what were they?

-Steve

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Here's a few photos of a typical 55 Pontiac X-el promo for those who don't have one .....

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Any reissues are welcome these days!

Bring 'em on! B)

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Steve, first, I would be fine provided the Pontiacs and maybe the De Sotos had an interior bucket of sorts . The clear glass is a plus too as a lot of model builders aren't proficient in doing glass in acetate . The rest , Shoot most of us hereshould be able to scratch build . At least I have / can /will.............Ed Shaver

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It sure would be nice to have the 59 Dodge back and I'm sure there are a few others that I would buy.

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Even if they were straight repops of the promos (missing interiors and all) I'd be up for several of them. Sweeten the pot a bit and that'll just make it better!

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Steve you made mention to this last Tues. Since I am a bit younger and these promos were before my time and are now way out of my price range I would be happy to see any and all that may surface. I have always admired the '59 Rambler you did, not only because of the quality of the build but, also because it's a longroof and there just isn't enough of them offered...

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It wouldn't matter to me as long as they are reissued!!!!! Love them all!

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The mid sixties Chryslers and Imperials would really be welcome.

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I'd love to see as much as possible; Jo-Han did a lot of my favorite subjects, and easier availability would make me a very happy camper indeed.

And yes, I'd prefer the clear glass and interiors to be included or made up. If you really want to get my interest up, I'd like to see full-detail chassis plates, too.

Charlie Larkin

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Steve, first, I would be fine provided the Pontiacs and maybe the De Sotos had an interior bucket of sorts . The clear glass is a plus too as a lot of model builders aren't proficient in doing glass in acetate . The rest , Shoot most of us hereshould be able to scratch build . At least I have / can /will.............Ed Shaver

Yep, what he said. An interior bucket is a must, the rest we can kit bash.

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It sure would be nice to have the 59 Dodge back and I'm sure there are a few others that I would buy.

Funny you mention that Ron, we had a customer that was asking if we could get models of a '59 Dodge as well as the early 60's Dodge Lancers today. Not sure what is worse, telling somebody that the car they're looking for hasn't been made in decades or that there likely isn't enough interest to create a model of one (as I'm standing next to a shelf with a bunch of different '57 Chevy's, Early Mustang's and Camaro's, '32 Ford's on them <_< )

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I'm very interested in all these kits.its nice to have the interior tub and windshield...or glass for the model.I can decal the chassis plate if need be.its just great to have hopes these kits will be out on the market to buy.Thank you for bring them to us to build,Thanks,Chris

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bring em back!

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Thanks for the question, Steve! It's great to see some positive movement on reviving the Johan line.

I'm assuming from the way you worded the question that our choices would likely be limited to the Johan models that were re-issued by X-el, so in order of preference, here's my list based on the X-el reissues I can remember and would want to see available again...

1. '61 Dodge Dart Phoenix 2dht

2. '59 Desoto Fireflite 4dht (w/interior please!)

3. '59 Chrysler New Yorker 4dht (w/interior please!)

4. '59 Plymouth Sport Fury 2dht (w/interior please!)

5. '57 Olds 98 Sport Sedan (aka 4dht)

6. '58 Cadillac Fleetwood 4dht

7. '56 Desoto Fireflite 4dsdn (w/interior please!)

8. '56 Olds 98 4dht (w/interior please!)

9. '58 Olds 98 Sport Sedan (w/better interior please)

10. '56 Plymouth Belvedere 4dsdn(w/interior please!)

11. '59 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer 2dht (w/interior please!)

Of the models that X-el never re-issued (and am assuming the tools are likely long gone), the two I'd most like to see would be the '60 Plymouth Sport Fury 2dht and '60 Olds 98 Scenicoupe (aka 2dht). The latter is still the best rendition of the '59-'60 GM two door hardtop roof ever made!

For the ones for which the tooling might be lost, I wonder if they could be reverse-engineered from existing examples of the kits (in the case of the '60 Plymouth and Olds) and parts (interiors for '59 Plymouth and Dodge) in the way that Model King did for the lost elements of the SMP '59 Imperial and '64 Comet? Of course models molded in acetate could not reverse-engineered from existing examples due to the shrinkage and distortion inherent in that material.

Long live Johan!...

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:D Hi ho ya I am 59 and as nice and as great all the other model kits are BRING BACK any thing JoHan I have many of there kits and I still love them all.

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I would love to see the Maverick brought back! I would buy a bunch of those!

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Roger- I'll see your Maverick and raise you the similar-vintage Comet. ^_^

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Bring them on. Any vintage Mopar is welcomed in my house. ANy vintage drag car is welcomed. Heck any thing that can be converted to a drag car is also welcomed. Please bring back some vintage Mopars.

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Any vintage Johan would be welcome by me, esp. Cadillacs, Oldsmobiles, AMCs, and Mopars...

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I would like to see the Torino and Maverick promos!

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There were a lot of vintage Jo-Han kits at the swap meet in Toledo this past weekend and Modelhaus has some really nice older Mopar kits for sale also.

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Thanks for the question, Steve! It's great to see some positive movement on reviving the Johan line.

I'm assuming from the way you worded the question that our choices would likely be limited to the Johan models that were re-issued by X-el, so in order of preference, here's my list based on the X-el reissues I can remember and would want to see available again...

1. '61 Dodge Dart Phoenix 2dht

2. '59 Desoto Fireflite 4dht (w/interior please!)

3. '59 Chrysler New Yorker 4dht (w/interior please!)

4. '59 Plymouth Sport Fury 2dht (w/interior please!)

5. '57 Olds 98 Sport Sedan (aka 4dht)

6. '58 Cadillac Fleetwood 4dht

7. '56 Desoto Fireflite 4dsdn (w/interior please!)

8. '56 Olds 98 4dht (w/interior please!)

9. '58 Olds 98 Sport Sedan (w/better interior please)

10. '56 Plymouth Belvedere 4dsdn(w/interior please!)

11. '59 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer 2dht (w/interior please!)

Of the models that X-el never re-issued (and am assuming the tools are likely long gone), the two I'd most like to see would be the '60 Plymouth Sport Fury 2dht and '60 Olds 98 Scenicoupe (aka 2dht). The latter is still the best rendition of the '59-'60 GM two door hardtop roof ever made!

For the ones for which the tooling might be lost, I wonder if they could be reverse-engineered from existing examples of the kits (in the case of the '60 Plymouth and Olds) and parts (interiors for '59 Plymouth and Dodge) in the way that Model King did for the lost elements of the SMP '59 Imperial and '64 Comet? Of course models molded in acetate could not reverse-engineered from existing examples due to the shrinkage and distortion inherent in that material.

Long live Johan!...

Thanks for the great response John, (and everyone else) !!! It's clear from what I've seen so far is that you guys would love to see some more Johan re-issues even if it's an old X-el Desoto 4DR (for example) and adding interiors and maybe some optional parts would be like putting icing on a cake.

I'm here to tell you that some of those X-el reissues could be brought back with your support. Starting with the annoucements at Hobby coming up next week the future of IMC will be in your hands. Technically the '59 Rambler is already a sell-out for IMC thanks to Dave Burket and Model King but you'll need to support Dave and get them while they last. The next few kits to be offered after that will be the real test. You guys have mentioned some other great kit ideas, with any luck those dreams can become reality too.

If any of you are going to be attending iHobby next week, please stop buy the IMC booth and say Hi to Ernie Petit and tell him how you feel about bringing back those old Johan kits.

Thanks !!

Steve

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I'll have to look for that booth when I go, not expecting much this year though, it's been dieing out for the past couple years.

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I haven't been to the hobby show for several years now and I only live about 45 minutes from the exhibition hall where it's held. The show has been dwindling over the years as there is less and less interest in plastic modeling as it was in its "heyday" in the 50's & 60's. I don't want to have to pay for gas, parking, and admission to see just several booths or displays that interest me. The show used to be great ten or more years ago, but it's changed quite a bit since then. There are fewer kids that want to build plastic models, build scale railroads, and that are into R/C as times have been changing for a long time now and I don't believe that there is ANYTHING that can revive the plastic modeling industry as it seems as though it is just "bumping" along.

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