spad007 Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 cool i like COE'S Great idea. and any thing V12 (blazefox it could be a boat Allison ''like a PT boat motor'') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychographic Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) I got the Allison from ebay a while back. I really don't know squat about Allison engines, as a kid I remember an old White cabover drag truck that had an Allison engine in it. I thought that was the coolest looking thing in the world! If anyone has a reference photo's or a good knowledge of these engines, I could really use some help detailing this thing. Cleaning up the frame a bit. I cut off the back of the stock frame after the glue on the new rails dried. I also cut off the extensions where the cab mounts were. I'll wait until I have the suspension mount in to cut the rest of the floor pan out, it's adding strength to it for now. I also guessed at the length of the frame, there's a good chance I'll be shortening it a bit. Unless I build a sleeper for it. : ;D This is the trailer the Deora will be pulling, http://www.modelcars...l=&fromsearch=1 And this is the cargo, http://www.modelcars...l=&fromsearch=1 Edited May 6, 2012 by Psychographic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDO Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 (edited) The Allison engine is from an AMT Parts Pack. You can find them on ebay all day long. The COE with an Allsion was built by Jim Lytle and called "Big Al III". It was later bought by Tex Collins and renamed "The Bad Brahma Bull". Pics and info are not easy to find. Somewhere around I have a backissue of New Zealand Hot Rod magazine with a story on Jim Lytle, with pictures of his Allison-powered vehicles; the White COE, BMW Isetta, Quad Al, and of course Big Al. Edited May 6, 2012 by LDO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychographic Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 I've got the motor mounts in place. This is as low as I can get, the engine's sitting on the ground. You know I love LOW. I will have to see if I can raise the engine without creating havoc with the interior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychographic Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 With the engine at the height it is now, everything fits like a glove,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so far. I'm probably going to raise the engine about an1/8" and get the body lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychographic Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 The Allison engine is from an AMT Parts Pack. You can find them on ebay all day long. The COE with an Allsion was built by Jim Lytle and called "Big Al III". It was later bought by Tex Collins and renamed "The Bad Brahma Bull". Pics and info are not easy to find. Somewhere around I have a backissue of New Zealand Hot Rod magazine with a story on Jim Lytle, with pictures of his Allison-powered vehicles; the White COE, BMW Isetta, Quad Al, and of course Big Al. Thanks for that info, I searched Big Al plenty of times and never found anything. It looked much, MUCH better as Big All 3. Upper right corner of the pic below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Brian Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 The Allison V-12 was 1710 cubic inches and it's final WWII version put out about 1500hp. The parts pack represents a supercharged only engine that put out about 1200hp. Modern technology has these engines putting out over 3000hp with multiple turbos and fuel injected alcohol. The best sources for info about these engines is tractor pull sites as they are about the only users left for auto related mods. Here are some reference pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazefox Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 That cab over looks awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychographic Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Brian, those pics are great! Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychographic Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 This is kind of strange that I ran across this kit tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) A local (to me) legend by the name of EJ Potter (aka The Michigan Madman) used quite a few of these Allison engines in his exhibition drag cars and pulling tractors. Apparently there was even a W-24 variant developed during WWII. The project was scrapped when development of the planes they were intended for, but a few engines were built for testing. They were essentially two V-12's 'joined at the hip'. This is a photo of one from his autobiography- According to Wikipedia, only 150 or so of these W24s were built (compared to some 7,000 V-12s). They were designated V-3420s,V-1710 was the V12 engine depicted in the AMT kit. Edited May 7, 2012 by Chuck Most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 wait...an Allison powered BMW ISETTA? do you have any idea how small that car is? (there was a four passenger model too so maybe thats what this is?) incredible. sweet build here too! i am itching to use an Allison motor in something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooltas Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 that would work better in a pulling truck that are 4 mod class tracters out there powed by these beasts one got 2 of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwrabbit Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 Love the concept and the choice of a powerplant! Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 wait...an Allison powered BMW ISETTA? do you have any idea how small that car is? (there was a four passenger model too so maybe thats what this is?) incredible. sweet build here too! i am itching to use an Allison motor in something. No it was the single seater. If you do a search on google you can see pictures. Its all engine with a drivers seat behind it and a couple of axles. bobthehobbyguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugace Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) The stock Isetta was a 2 seater. But the raildragster was of course a singelseater. There have been rails with all kind of microcar bodies. Actually not only as modelcars, but in real life as well. Hot Wheels have one wild Isetta with the body ahead of a wild engine, and a topfuelwing. If You dare sitting over the front axel of a topfueler, You might find it thrilling. Love this Deora project. I find my self playing with the idea using traditional parts only. Dropping the engine, for a GMC turbin. and using a two tonne chassis. Edited May 27, 2012 by Bugace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I love the originality, design and sheer over-the-top-ness of this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModlerChris1987 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I'm liking this build. I love the fact your building a toy hauler and its making me wanting to build one to tow my nova pro street I'm working on but I just don't know how to do it. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PARTSMARTY Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 can't wait to see where this one leads.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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