Hollywood Jim Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 This is supposed to be on it's way to us. Cool. I like it !! QUESTION: In real life, how many two door police cars were actually used? I guess the bad guy gets to ride shotgun. !!?!?! . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Jim, In the earlier days, there were more 2-door police cars than 4-door police cars. They were cheaper and officer safety in the event of a prisoner transport had not yet become a big concern. It wasn't until the 60's that 4-door sedans became more common in law enforcement service. Paddy wagons were still very common, so prisoners in cities were usually transported in the back of the big van. And, yes. If a bad guy was to be hauled in where a paddy wagon wasn't available, he/she would usually be carried in the front passenger seat. They just weren't allowed to drive! The '57 Ford 300 was very popular in law enforcement in its day. This should prove to be a huge seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Jim Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Jim, In the earlier days, there were more 2-door police cars than 4-door police cars. They were cheaper and officer safety in the event of a prisoner transport had not yet become a big concern. It wasn't until the 60's that 4-door sedans became more common in law enforcement service. Paddy wagons were still very common, so prisoners in cities were usually transported in the back of the big van. And, yes. If a bad guy was to be hauled in where a paddy wagon wasn't available, he/she would usually be carried in the front passenger seat. They just weren't allowed to drive! The '57 Ford 300 was very popular in law enforcement in its day. This should prove to be a huge seller. Thank you Dan !! I knew you would know. Or is that, I knew you knew. Or, you knew I knew you would know. Or................. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Not a problem, Jim. By the way ... Happy Birthday! (a day or so late). Glad to see you're staying just ahead of me. This is one thing I wouldn't want to catch up on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuderia Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Anyone know if this new or if it's an updated re-release? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Sumner Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Just to give you a little more info on the prisoner transport part...here in Connecticut, we in the Connecticut State Police always have and still do transport our prisoners right in the front seat next to us. The reasons are a few... each trooper is assigned a cruiser that he/she operates 24/7/365, on duty and off duty. Our cruisers are not marked by paint. The only marking on them is when we attach the roof rack every day upon returning to duty. The rack attaches to the roof with a cam release/attach lever or a screw into a pre mounted bracket and the wiring is via a 10 pin socket. Our cruisers have no barrier between the front and rear seats. So, all prisoners are handcuffed behind their backs and placed in the right front seat and then seat belted in. Makes it a lot easier to watch them this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Jim Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Anyone know if this new or if it's an updated re-release? This kit will be put out by Model King and is based on the new Revell 57 Ford. Model King is adding police items to the kit. It is expected to be released in early 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Jim Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Not a problem, Jim. By the way ... Happy Birthday! (a day or so late). Glad to see you're staying just ahead of me. This is one thing I wouldn't want to catch up on. Thanks. So if I can go into a cryogenic state for a while, then you will catch up. . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Just to give you a little more info on the prisoner transport part...here in Connecticut, we in the Connecticut State Police always have and still do transport our prisoners right in the front seat next to us. The reasons are a few... each trooper is assigned a cruiser that he/she operates 24/7/365, on duty and off duty. Our cruisers are not marked by paint. The only marking on them is when we attach the roof rack every day upon returning to duty. The rack attaches to the roof with a cam release/attach lever or a screw into a pre mounted bracket and the wiring is via a 10 pin socket. Our cruisers have no barrier between the front and rear seats. So, all prisoners are handcuffed behind their backs and placed in the right front seat and then seat belted in. Makes it a lot easier to watch them this way. I'm no cop, but logic would tell me that transporting a prisoner in the back seat, handcuffed and behind a shield, where it's impossible for him to have any physical contact with you, would be a lot safer than having him sitting right next to you. Just sayin'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarana-X Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'm no cop, but logic would tell me that transporting a prisoner in the back seat, handcuffed and behind a shield, where it's impossible for him to have any physical contact with you, would be a lot safer than having him sitting right next to you. Just sayin'... Sounds like Connecticut has alot of faith in the honor system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'm not "up" on 1950s cards, but isn't this a Ford Mainline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'm not "up" on 1950s cards, but isn't this a Ford Mainline? Nope. Ford didn't use the "Mainline" name in 1957. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Jim Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'm not "up" on 1950s cards, but isn't this a Ford Mainline? No. But I'll bet Danno "mainlines" a few of these kits............ . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I just want to know what Hollywood is cooking, now that he's turned another birthday. Happy birthday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 No. But I'll bet Danno "mainlines" a few of these kits............ . . . LOL. Probably . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercman Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 In Fargo here back in the 60's they still had 2 door cruiser's. My dad would come home in one for supper. He was a cop here for 33 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 But this is supposed to be a 1957. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 This is supposed to be on it's way to us. Cool. I like it !! QUESTION: In real life, how many two door police cars were actually used? I guess the bad guy gets to ride shotgun. !!?!?! . . . Yes, 2drs were far more common than 4drs decades ago. Indiana State Police used 2dr sedans in the more rural parts of IN until the early 1960's. Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The St. Louis Metropolitan Police used two door cars until the 1959 model year. Even then, the first of the four doors were assigned to the Canine Division. Efficient and safe prisoner transportation has been, and always will be, a topic for discussion. From the first "Black Maria" to the most modern police vehicle, conveying someone who doesn't want to go, has been and will be, a challenge. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000-cvpi Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I'm no cop, but logic would tell me that transporting a prisoner in the back seat, handcuffed and behind a shield, where it's impossible for him to have any physical contact with you, would be a lot safer than having him sitting right next to you. Just sayin'... But in the front seat you can hit the bad guy with a sap to quiet him or her down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie8575 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 No. But I'll bet Danno "mainlines" a few of these kits............ . . . So that's why he calls his hobby shop the plastic pusher? I'm looking forward to grabbing one of these, myself. Charlie Larkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 But in the front seat you can hit the bad guy with a sap to quiet him or her down. But in the back seat, handcuffed and behind the shield, you would never have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 But in the back seat, handcuffed and behind the shield, you would never have to. Not entirely true. I've had combatative "guests" in the back seat who kicked out side windows (hence the invention of those bar guards), kicked out the back window, and one huge overstressed and hyperpizzed farmboy on PCP who kicked the divider/shield loose. Sometimes you still have to persuade someone to settle down. But, I agree ... the back seat, strapped in (seatbelt/shoulder belt) tightly, and a hefty divider shield and barred windows is the preferred way to fly. Some agencies, however, (largely for cost-saving reasons) just don't offer their law enforcement officers the preferred way to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent G Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I've seen windows kicked out, cages knocked askew fom the floor, doors knocked off kilter, and a variety of lesser damage from prisoners in the back seat of a lockup car. We tried to use the purpose built vans for transport as much as possible. I saw the back door to a Ford kicked so hard it jammed. This from a handcuffed and belted prisoner. NOTHING is perfect, ................. except unconscious in the trunk, wait, did I say that outloud? G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I'd rather have the PCP'd crazy guy in back, behind the shield, and handcuffed instead of sitting right next to me. If the guy does that much damage in the back, why on earth would I prefer him to be in front right next to me??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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