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Pocher 1931 Alfa Romeo 2300 Monza

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Harry, did you do any special "fitting" of the hood to the cowl and radiator shroud? Both of my models are a bit weird in that the radii of the hoods at each end do not match up perfectly with the adjacent panels. I suspect this is par for the Pocher course.

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Glad to see this thread resurface again. Harry, I apologize for not responding to your reply regarding online build. I'm sure it was a long turn project thus hard to have an online build. Glad to see here done Harry. So, what are you building now?

Mike

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Harry,

Great job on the Pocher Alfa Romeo and Bugatti. Your work on the Pocher really came out "museum-quality."

Your Pocher brought back fond memories. Back in 1971, my late dad and I built-up this same Pocher Alfa Romeo 8c 2300 Mona with the wire wheels. It was a early kit. The parts came in clear plastic box containers. My last year in high school, I had a job at K-Mart in 1975 and to my amazement, the Pocher kits were selling in the store. The manager knew I was a model builder, and asked how I thought the kits would sell. One customer actually went store-to-store with a trailer, buying them up!

Much continued success with your large-scale models.

Best,

Ron

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Harry, did you do any special "fitting" of the hood to the cowl and radiator shroud? Both of my models are a bit weird in that the radii of the hoods at each end do not match up perfectly with the adjacent panels. I suspect this is par for the Pocher course.

Yes, the hood contours don't exactly match up to the radiator shell. That's just another "Pocherism." I just lived with it. It wasn't too bad,

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So, what are you building now?

At the moment, a 1/16 scale 1937 RR Phantom III that I will be converting to a woody. My original plan was to use the Pocher "Star of India" kit for this, but I decided to "practice" by building a smaller-scale version first and working out the construction details... then maybe I'll do the 1/8 scale version.

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Depends on how successful (or not) I am with the 1/16 version... :lol:

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As an experienced wooden ship modeler, you should have zero problems.

Edited by sjordan2

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As an experienced wooden ship modeler, you should have zero problems.

It's not the woodworking that might be the problem, but the actual details of construction, like do I build the doors first and then fit the body to them, or do I build the body first and fit the doors to the opening? Should I attach the doors to the hinge post and then mount the whole thing as one assembly, or should I install the hinge posts first and then add the doors to the otherwise finished body? That sort of stuff. I've been going over a building sequence in my head, but I keep changing my mental to-do list! :lol:

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???

I would think you would start with some thin card stock and a pencil, make the basic shape and take it from there. But I would also think that your question is rhetorical.

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Thanks, Bob. Not all of these got into Harry's book, but maybe a memorial website could be created.

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Amazing- I don't recall seeing this before, it is certainly Museum quality.  Harry had an incredible eye for authenticity.

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Posted (edited)

Hello , all!

I am as much of a newbie as you can be. I am a retired architect and Southern California and would normally be either restoring a motorcycle or modifying one. I have many interests, but didn’t plan this virus thing very well or I would not have been caught between motorcycle projects!

So, this seemed like a great time to purchase a Pocher Alfa Monza kit on eBay and tackle that. I plan to build a car like the car that Nuvolari drove at Monte Carlo in 1933.

Harry, I was very inspired by your beautiful work! I love the fact that you weren’t trying to make it a highly polished show car. That is my intention as well. I have a small lathe mill in my shop and some machine skills. But, I also have some CAD skills from my architectural background.

When I realized after making my first aluminum prototype vent, that I would almost have to paint the cap to have it match the surrounding finish on the cam cover, I decided to look into 3D printing the part.

I’ve attached a screenshot of a quick design I put together. It is not yet proportionally correct. But, one way or another, by the time I print it, it will be very accurate. I have been trying to find some good side shots of the vent, but they are hard to find. 

I plan to make as many different parts as possible through this method.

Once the work is been done and I have a company to produce them, I will make more.

I do not know what the final cost will be, but I do know that it will be much less than Model Motrocar’s charges. Yikes!

 

These are the parts that I plan to make so far:

·      Cam cover vent caps

·      Sparkplugs

·      Brake drums (with correct fins)

·      Knock off hubs

·      Foot pedals

·      Shift gate

·      Distributor linkage

·      Coffee can coil

·      Gas cap

·      Racing windscreen

·      Pie plate tachometer

·      Rear view mirror

 

Please keep in mind that these parts will all need paint or the chrome foil. Most will just be paint.

Are there any others I should consider? I am staying away from plated parts with a couple of exceptions. 

So, my question to you as a group is what technical information can you provide to me, either straight on photographs or even better, technical drawings, so that I can make these parts as accurate as possible?

I think this can be a fun project for us all and obviously anyone participating will get the super friendly price on the first runs. I am very excited about this and would hope that some of you would find this interesting. I am not trying to start a new business, merely to be able to contribute to a community that is new to me.

It’s always fun to come into a new hobby, which it is actually, for me,  a long slumbering one.

Thanks very much for hearing me out and I’ll hope to look forward to your comments on this path.

All the best,

David

duczupa@gmail.com

 

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Looks like you took on a very interesting project David.

Unfortunately Harry has past on, but his legacy lives on. We all miss Harry very much. He was the reason I joined this forum years ago.

Still, there are plenty of capable modelers here you can bounce ideas of off.

Edited by peteski

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Hi Peter, 

I am terribly sorry to hear about Harry. Although I obviously didn't know him, I could sense a great personality though his words and obvious skills. 

I just settled on this path a few days ago, so am starting to work piece by piece on the list above. Through various contacts, including the Petersen in LA, I can almost certainly get access to a real 8C Monza to take measurements and photos, if need be. Unfortunately, I was at the Alfa museum in Milano last fall, but didn't know I was going to be on this path, so a great photo and info opportunity was missed. I know the person who runs the Ducati museum in Bologna, so I might be able to get a contact at Alfa from him. 

But, I will take it a step at a time and keep posting parts as the files are complete. This sort of fabrication is new to me, but I just had some CNC work done on a different project. That helped my computer skills a bit and I have a highly skilled friend who can advise on the exact materials and processes.  

Thanks for your support, 

👍

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