cobraman Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Since I am stalled on the Corvette hot rod thing while awaiting parts I needed to start another project. Looking at my stash I found a couple of dragsters I figured I would not build anytime soon so I had this idea to combine the two. Now, let me be the first to say I realize this is a crazy stupid idea that would not function well if at all in the real world. I have for some reason been building some strange stuff lately for some reason. That being said I present my next "stupid " wip. Done just for fun ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyD340 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Ray that's the neat thing about modeling we can do anything that our imagination tells us to do, so what if it won't fly who cares , it's about the fun right, you might be surprised how good it looks when it's finished!! Keep on building em!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsclayyoo Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) I want one! That thing would be sweet if it was functional! Edited July 17, 2013 by itsclayyoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Thanks guys ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaleDale Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 A slot racer no doubt? Gutter Drags?Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrozilla Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Oh why not!!!!!!! That's gonna be so kewl. I heard somewhere that there will be a real twin engine top fuel car built. They didn't say whether it will be inline or side by side like the Showboat. Just shows everybody is thinking out of the bleach box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Worked a little more on this "thing". Did another mock up as now the wheels and tires are mounted. This "thing" is long. One photo shows this one compared to a stock build with a Studebaker streamlined body. http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb207/cobraman86/8wheeler2001_zpsb1d65fe2.jpg[/img ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Cool idea, and who says it won't work in reality? They tried just as crazy stuff in Formula 1 and CanAm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Seeing as how the whole point of 1/4 mile racing is seeing how fast you can get from point A to point B, I don't see how adding all the extra weight and complexity would help. But hey... it's just a model! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 It wouldn't help. It would be a dog. Thats why I called it a stupid build. It is fun to bash the two kits together however and is not intended to be a serious example of a dragster that would run very good let alone be competitive. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlow Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I don't know about the front end but the back would hook up like glue, and less likely to flip over on take off. Fun build. Laz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) Seeing as how the whole point of 1/4 mile racing is seeing how fast you can get from point A to point B, I don't see how adding all the extra weight and complexity would help. But hey... it's just a model! Like lazlow already said, hooking up in excess of 8000 hp COULD conceivably be enhanced with the additional rear tires. There's a lot of tire-spinning wasted energy in a top-fuel launch. There have been several points in the history of drag racing where tire traction was the limiting factor in acceleration. We may be at another one. Many experts 'proved' mathematically that 10 second ETs were the theoretical minimum, based on what was 'known' about coefficients of friction at one time. That was fine until someone ran 9.98. The tiny front tires COULD conceivably help to lower frontal area, which is a powerful contributor to drag up around 300mph. When you consider that hundredths of a second count... Edited July 19, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Nice info Bill, interesting. I have an idea to get Harry to like it................ I'm going to mount some mirrors on it ! : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddyfink Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Cool project! Reminds me of a story Cole Coonce wrote in Super Stock about a Front Engine Dragster with dual rear wheels that John Force and a few other guys where scheming up. There was a crude drawing of it on a napkin and a very funny story! I think it was all make beliveve, but it made for good reading! Can't wait to see it done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Hey guys ! Got a bit more done on this "thing". Shot the paint but still needs to be decaled and cleared. Engine is just about done. I should be able to wrap this one up in the next few days. Thanks for looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Colmer Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 This is cool. Not practical - unless you add mirrors - but cool. I have a book that has a pic of an old Mickey Tompson FED dragster with a set of rear slicks tucked inside the rear line of another set of slicks. So the set up was simliar to yours. Weight issues aside - unless you use carbon fiber mirrors to compensate for the extra tires - they experienced some pretty bad weight transfer issues. When it wanted the do a wheelie it bounced back and forth on the tamdem slicks. Not a fun ride, I'd guess. Keep going. This is a blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Teresi Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Ray.......I like what you are doing........Tommy Ivo and a bunch of others had Exhibtion show cars......I think this fits in with them .......Oh Ya don`t forget those mirrors ........Ray you are doing a great job buddy..........always remember, "It`s Just A Model" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 March 2-4-0 Williams FW 08B Ferrari 312 T6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) Many things have been tried in the quest for increased traction. Never say never to a new or unusual idea. Some actually work. Edited July 19, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Thank you very much guys. Thanks for that dragster photo Bill. That thing is wild ! Do you know if it had any sucess on the track ? 2 engines and 4 slicks....WILD ! Maybe I should have stretched mine a little longer and put 2 engines in line in it. Thanks for the kind words John. They mean a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Hey Bill ! I've been looking at the photo you posted of the twin engined 4 slicks dragster you posted and thought "What a cool project that would be". 2 Wynns FE dragsters or a couple of Hemi Sphere kits could be a good start. Do you know where I could find more photos on line of this car just in case ? I searched but had no luck. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Hey Bill ! I've been looking at the photo you posted of the twin engined 4 slicks dragster you posted and thought "What a cool project that would be". 2 Wynns FE dragsters or a couple of Hemi Sphere kits could be a good start. Do you know where I could find more photos on line of this car just in case ? I searched but had no luck. Thanks. The thing was built by Art Chrisman and Frank Cannon in about '61 as an experimental "Hustler". Here's an interview with Art Crisman (nothing about this wild car though) for background. http://www.hotrod.com/feature_stories/hrdp_1301_take_5_with_art_chrisman/viewall.html Here's a link to some other dual engined and dual-slick equipped cars...http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/2006/12/dual-engine-diggers-and-dual-rear-tire.html (click on the scans to get them big enough to read) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) This crazy thing was built by Bill Coburn in about '62... Edited July 19, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Kron Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Follow this link and Neil Leffler himself will tell you everything you need to know about the Coburn-Leffler Messer' competition coupe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn5BPRigLV0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Thanks guys, Some mighty interesting dragsters here. Does that coupe one use a Isetta or Mesersmitt ( spelling ?) body ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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