Plastheniker Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Probably you have noticed this topic by member Curt Raitz http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=81345 Curt re-discovered this old topic started in 2007 by member Yad' who left the forum obviously in 2008 http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6659&hl=%2Bmaking+%2Bwire+%2Bwheels#entry808443 His topic is about his technique of making wire wheels. Curt adopted Yad's technique with marginal modifications in his own a. m. topic. This re-discovered technique is very similar to my obsolete technique described in the 1984 article of a German modeling magazine (depicted at the beginning of this topic). The results of my obsolete technique and Yad's technique are identical. I did not explain my obsolete technique because though very simple its results are no match to my modern technique. As said:"When using the obsolete technique the spokes are applied directly to the plastic wheel halves. This technique is okay for very narrow rims as bikes, motor-cycles and and very few vintage cars, where all spokes are fixed very close to the centerline of the rim well , but on all other cars this looks completely unrealistic". Now thanks to Curt you can compare the results of my simple obsolete and my present technique. Because Curt adopted Yad's technique without changing anything essential I recommend to choose the original link of the former member Yad' and Curt's link as well . Here are some more pictures of wheels made with my present technique. I think the additional effort of the present technique pays off. http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78461http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=80009http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=81255http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=81024 (scroll down for a second car) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curt raitz Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Thanks Jurgen I didn't know "diddely squat" about wire wheels until I started to make'm myself. I got tired, just like everyone else of the "out-of-scale" wire wheels out there. The method I've been using has the spokes centered between both rims, good for bikes and old dragsters May not be accurate on some applications, but better than what comes in the box. There are a multitude of wire wheel patterns and levels as Jurgen has pointed out I'll be giving his method a try and see how it works c'ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastheniker Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 Curt, You are absolutely right. Any self-made wire wheel, even those made with the simplest techniques (up to now I saw about half a dozen more or less simple techniques), is better than the best plastic wheel. I have no doubt that a modeler of your skills will master any technique. As I said before (I think): If any questions occur please post or send a PM. Here is another picture sent to a forum member showing the construction of the wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lower99 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Hallo Jürgen! Sehr schöner Tipp! Danke fürs teilen! Grüße! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 this is going to be way too advanced for me! too many tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Brilliant, now all I need to do is print it off, sit down, read thoroughly then think it through!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Kucaba Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Yes, real easy. Where's that photo-etch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FASTBACK340 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Brilliant, now all I need to do is print it off, sit down, read thoroughly then think it through!!! I was thinking exactly the same thing. It appears after reading it through it might be easier to try and do it than explain it. Very cool tip, thanks for posting it for us all to enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Thanks for a great tutorial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 smileys-winkende-046.gif To be continued after supper Please give me some response. I would like to know how many users will follow this topic. If anything is incomprehensible, if any questions occur please let me know as soon as possible. This contribution will require more than one evening, so I want to be sure that everything is understandable. Thanks! I'm definitely interested Jurgen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62rebel Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Jurgen, your instructional was well presented and informative, even though i might never use the info, it is good to have seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterNNL Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 A great tutorial for those so inclined but way outside my "wheelhouse". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasser59 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I gotta do this and soon just to see how much of an improvement they can be over the kit wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 just to see how much of an improvement they can be over the kit wheels. Brad, you can't be serious. on a scale of 1 - 10 , Photo etched 1 , better than kit wheels , jurgen's method, easily a 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasser59 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I AM serious Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldmodelmaker Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 It looks like I'm a few years too late in finding this tutorial. I've shied away from something as technical as this in the past but I plan to give it a try. I didn't read it completely through yet because I saw it was from 2013 but I'm going to go back through it and see what I can do. I can only hope that there may be others who have dealt with this topic before that can lead me to new information or techniques that would help in my quest to learn how to do this. Thank you for the original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarheelRick Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 It looks like I'm a few years too late in finding this tutorial. I've shied away from something as technical as this in the past but I plan to give it a try. I didn't read it completely through yet because I saw it was from 2013 but I'm going to go back through it and see what I can do. I can only hope that there may be others who have dealt with this topic before that can lead me to new information or techniques that would help in my quest to learn how to do this. Thank you for the original post.PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ve safari Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Thank you thank you thank you! Today I picked up the old Italeri 540K and thought those wheels are not acceptable. A quick forum search led me to your 540K build, and then this thread. Where would we be without the internet?! I also have the Revell 300 SLR and 300 Mille Miglia kits in my stash for years, but have held off building them because they deserve better wheels than what comes out of the box. I look forward to using your tutorial to make my own set. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrevellfan Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) I have use these technique on a Heller Tlabo Lago GP with fishing wier, it work well ! Edited October 23, 2021 by oldrevellfan order of image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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