bismarck Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I hate it when members say their going to add some photos to there posts, but their not really they're. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bismarck Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 This is one is for the book , should I ever decide to write it ..... ! I received an email today from the president of the advertising department of a magazine . He informed me that he had received a phone call from an individual , asking him to please email me and instruct me to answer the email that said individual had sent me on Friday ! I worked on Friday and Saturday , and spent most of Sunday , snaking out the main sewer line for Kathie's house . Lone Wolf Custom Painting was about the last thing that I had on my mind this past weekend ! I received another email from the individual today stating that he would like my cell number so that he can call and discuss a build that he would like for me to do for him of his classic car ..... I just don't see this happening in this lifetime ! Do people realize that there are other aspects of life besides this ? Ya know ? , like , kids , grandkids , house and auto repair , significant others , a real job , etc ? I try to help out as much with this hobby as I can , but there are times when it becomes almost more to deal with than it's worth ! People actually get hostile if you don't answer an email within a time setting of their choosing . I have to admit it , I am good about returning emails , but ...... Sometimes real life gets in the way ! This person gets flaked out about two days of an unanswered email , what's he going to be like with a several month build projection ? Nope , uh uh , no way ! Ain't happenin' ! It stops being a hobby, and starts being a hassle for that very reason. I was in the very same boat (with much less skill) as you several years ago. Got tired of trying to meet unrealistic expectations and deadlines AND keep a roof over my families head. I build strictly for myself now, and couldn't be happier!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I've never understood why it's legal for shops to install window tint on cars, but it's illegal for you to have it (in most states) on your car! If it's illegal to have it, it should be illegal to install it, no? Aha! What irks me are stupid state laws.... For instance I now live in Pennsylvania, a state whose laws often defy description... My favorite. At all the state borders there are huge fireworks stores. Fireworks are illegal in Pennsylvania, so these stores are not allowed to sell them to PA state residents, only out of staters... never mind that fireworks are illegal in all the states that border PA! And don't even get me going on the motor vehicle and alcohol laws here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I hate it when members say their going to add some photos to there posts, but their not really they're. Maybe theys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelbuilder Mark Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Not really an Irk, but more of a peeve, AND model related. When "poseable" steering is referred to as "working steering". To me, working means, I turn the steering wheel and the wheels turn. The only reason this matters so much to me, is there are guys that make workable steering, and they indeed invest work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 A minor nitpick--when people refer to a model as a 'repop'...no such word. It could be a reissue, or a reproduction though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 A minor nitpick--when people refer to a model as a 'repop'...no such word. It could be a reissue, or a reproduction though.. And on a related point, calling a model a "build." Like nails on a chalkboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin T Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 And on a related point, calling a model a "build." Like nails on a chalkboard. What do you prefer to call it other that "A completed styrene model kit"? Would you rather have us call it an assembled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 And on a related point, calling a model a "build." Like nails on a chalkboard. That I don't mind..it's a pretty standard term, seems to be used in the 1:1 resto world also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 What do you prefer to call it other that "A completed styrene model kit"? Would you rather have us call it an assembled? I'd prefer "model." This is my model of a 1957 whatever... not this is my build of a 1957 whatever. It's a model. It's not a "build." Build is a verb, not a noun. I build models. I don't build builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) I'd prefer "model." This is my model of a 1957 whatever... not this is my build of a 1957 whatever. It's a model. It's not a "build." Build is a verb, not a noun. I build models. I don't build builds. 'build' is a verb that has been nouned... As an aside, I definitely use it/see it used both ways in real life..i.e. 'run a build' or 'build the software', where build the verb refers to an automated process of packaging software, and build the noun refers to the artifact that is the result of the build process...i.e. a deployable executable version of the software to install on a server, for example. Not that different than the two uses in modeling, really. Edited November 12, 2013 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkPile Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Just agree with Harry. It is easier that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Just agree with Harry. It is easier that way. Never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Just agree with Harry. It is easier that way. Now there's a smart man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 'build' is a verb that has been nouned... As an aside, I definitely use it/see it used both ways in real life..i.e. 'run a build' or 'build the software', where build the verb refers to an automated process of packaging software, and build the noun refers to the artifact that is the result of the build process...i.e. a deployable executable version of the software to install on a server, for example. Not that different than the two uses in modeling, really. So if you're so accommodating of using a verb as a noun, you apparently have a pretty laid-back attitude regarding gramar and usage, right? So why does the word "repop" bother you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 So if you're so accommodating of using a verb as a noun, you apparently have a pretty laid-back attitude regarding gramar and usage, right? So why does the word "repop" bother you? Check the dictionary. 'build' has both verb and noun definitions. Pretty common, there are many words like that. 'Repop' is not a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Check the dictionary. 'build' has both verb and noun definitions. noun 9. the physical structure, especially of a person; physique; figure:He had a strong build. 10. the manner or form of construction: The house was of modern build. 11. Computers. a. a version of a program after compilation, typically an update to an existing version made before the program is released. b. the process of producing a software build. c. a new version or update of data in a database or on a website: frequent, incremental builds of data. 12. Masonry. a. a vertical joint. b. the vertical dimension of a stone laid on its bed. No mention of model cars as "builds." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) noun 9. the physical structure, especially of a person; physique; figure:He had a strong build. 10. the manner or form of construction: The house was of modern build. 11. Computers. a. a version of a program after compilation, typically an update to an existing version made before the program is released. b. the process of producing a software build. c. a new version or update of data in a database or on a website: frequent, incremental builds of data. 12. Masonry. a. a vertical joint. b. the vertical dimension of a stone laid on its bed. No mention of model cars as "builds." No, but the word can be used as a noun. Model cars are too obscure of a subject for a general purpose dictionary, but the usage is not that different than 11a--basically the end result of a build process. Furniture makers probably refer to the end result of their effort in a generic way as a 'build', for example. Or in other professions/hobbies... Edited November 12, 2013 by Harry P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 No, but the word can be used as a noun. Model cars are too obscure of a subject for a general purpose dictionary, but the usage is not that different than 11a--basically the end result of a build process. Furniture makers probably refer to the end result of their effort in a generic way as a 'build', for example. Or in other professions/hobbies... Ok, perfesser. You win! But whenever I hear a model called a "build" it still grates on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) I don't mind "build", the one that drives me crazy is "make" as in "My hobby is making models" or "I made this model". It just doesn't sound right to my ears. I much prefer "I build models". Edited November 12, 2013 by Tom Geiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonW Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I mostly agree - Monogram make models, we build them. But Gerald Wingrove and Kennb make models as well, although that's called scratchbuilding! Now I think I'll go and build a sandwich... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) 1:1 Cars that are in the shop are referred to as "builds" .. to much "grammar nazi" going on here ... Edited November 12, 2013 by KingSix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonW Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Fair enough, that's what they are. My point is that some words aren't very logical but have become so commonly accepted that they make sense anyway - 'dropping the clutch', and using the 'correct' word sometimes sounds odd - 'the Hurst Olds did another smokeout'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Ok, why do you drive on a parkway and park in a driveway ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 And the pronunciation of the word DECAL. I've heard at least three pronunciations... dee-cal The way most folks say it deh-CAL enthuses on the second syllable. A guy in my club says it this way and will 'correct' you mid sentence, as if he's going to convert the entire hobby to his way. deckle (as in heckle) Maybe a Western Canadian thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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