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MPC's 1973 Annuals. Chevrolet Caprice 2-door Hardtop with Trailer, kit #1-7304 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7319 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7305 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Convertible, kit #1-7306 Chevrolet Vega 3-door Hatchback, kit #1-7327 Dodge Charger 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7307 Dodge Challenger 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7314 Dodge Pick-Up Truck Stock or Emergency, kit #1-7309 Ford Mustang 2-door Fastback, kit #1-7313 Mercury Cougar XR-7 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7322 Plymouth Barracuda 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7302 Plymouth Roadrunner 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7325 Plymouth Duster 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7326 Pontiac Firebird Formula 400 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7315

MPC's 1972 Annuals. Chevrolet Camaro 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7219 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7228 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7205 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Convertible, kit #1-7206 Chevrolet Impala 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7203 Chevrolet Vega 3-door Hatchback, kit #1-7227 Chevrolet Fleetside Pick-Up Tow Truck, kit #1-7208 Dodge Charger 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7207 Dodge Challenger 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7214 Dodge Pick-Up 4X4 "Baja Brute", kit #1-0485 Dodge Window Van Stock, Police or Twin Engine Drag, kit #1-7229 Ford Mustang 2-door Fastback, kit #1-7213 Jeep Jeepster 2-door, kit #1-7220 Mercury Cougar XR-7 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7222 Plymouth Barracuda 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7202 Plymouth Roadrunner 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7225 Plymouth Duster 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7226 Pontiac GTO 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7211 Pontiac Firebird Formula 400 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7215 Pontiac Grand Prix 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7221

Also in today's mail, a kind fellow blogger here, Sam I Am, was able to provide me with the missing parts I need to complete my AMT 1/16 scale '55 Thunderbird. Thank you Sam. I am eternally great full.

The mail carrier had nothing for me yesterday. But, she sure made up for it today.

Yea, I've never seen the kit myself. The listing for kit comes from Bill Coulter and Bob Shelton's The Directory of Model Car Kits, mentioned early on when I started doing this list. This kit does not show up in my Auto World 1970 Summer catalog. It is vaguely commented by Tim Boyd's book Collecting Muscle Car Model Kits. But, the way he mentions it, I'm not sure if he's indicating the kit was offered or not? Paul Bender's book, Model Car Promotional and Kit Guide also indicates the kit was offered. So was it? 2 1/2 sources I'm using give me the impression that the kit was offered. So, until I hear differently, I'm going with yes. By the way, the same problem arises with the '70 Dodge Coronet convertible. I get no clue from Boyd's book. No mention of it in the Auto World catalog. Yet the two other guides I mention above indicate it was offered.

MPC's 1971 Annuals. Chevrolet Camaro RS 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7119 Chevrolet Chevelle 454 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7128 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7105 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Convertible, kit #1-7106 Chevrolet Impala 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7127 Chevrolet Vega 3-door Hatchback, kit #1-7103 Chevrolet Pick-Up "The Racers Wedge", kit #1-7108 Dodge Demon 2-door Coupe, kit #1-0450 Dodge Charger 2-door Hardtop Factory Painted, kit #7107 Dodge Challenger 2-door Hardtoo, kit #1-7114 Dodge Sportsman Van, kit #1-7129 Ford Mustang 2-door Fastback, kit #1-7113 Jeep Jeepster 2-door, kit #7120 Mercury Cougar XR-7 2-door Hardtop Factory Painted, kit #1-7122 Mercury Cyclone 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7124 Plymouth GTX 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-0452 Plymouth Barracuda 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7102 Plymouth Roadrunner 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7125 Plymouth Duster 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7126 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 2-door Coupe, kit #1-0451 Pontiac Firebird 400 2-door Coupe, kit #1-7115 Pontiac GTO 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7111 Pontiac Grand Prix 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-7121

MPC's 1970 Annuals. Chevrolet Camaro 2-door Coupe, kit #1970 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 2-door Coupe, kit #570 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Convertible, kit #670 Chevrolet Impala 2-door Hardtop, kit #370 Chevrolet Impala Convertible, kit #470 Chevrolet Fleetside Pick-Up, kit #870 Dodge Coronet Super Bee 2-door Hardtop, kit #1770 Dodge Coronet Convertible, kit #1870 Dodge Charger R/T 2-door Hardtop, kit #770 Dodge Challenger 2-door Hardtop, kit #1470 Ford Mustang 2-door Fastback, kit #1370 Jeep Jeepster Safari Version, kit #2070 Mercury Cougar 2-door Hardtop, kit #2270 Mercury Cougar Convertible, kit #2370 Mercury Cyclone 2-door Hardtop, kit #2470 Plymouth Barracuda 2-door Hardtop, kit #270 Pontiac Bonneville 2-door Hardtop, kit #970 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible, kit #1070 Pontiac Firebird 2-door Coupe, kit #1570 Pontiac Grand Prix 2-door Hardtoo, kit #2170 Pontiac GTO 2-door Hardtop, kit #1170 Pontiac GTO Convertible, kit #1270

MPC's 1969 Annuals. Chevrolet Camaro SS 396 2-door Hardtop, kit #1969 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 2-door Coupe, kit #0569 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Convertible, kit #0669 Chevrolet Impala 2-door Hardtop, kit #0369 Chevrolet Impala Convertible, kit #0469 Chevrolet Fleetside Pick-Up "Fire Truck", kit #0869 Dodge Charger 2-door Hardtop, kit #0769 Dodge Coronet 2-door Hardtop, kit #1769 Dodge Coronet Convertible "Mission Impossible", kit #615-200 Ford Mustang GT 2-door Fastback, kit #1369 Jeep Jeepster 2-door, kit #2069 Plymouth Barracuda 2-door Fastback, kit #0269 Pontiac Bonneville 2-door Hardtop, kit #0969 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible, kit #1069 Pontiac Firebird 2-door Hardtop, kit #1569 Pontiac GTO 2-door Hardtop, kit #1169 Pontiac GTO Convertible, kit #1269 Pontiac Grand Prix 2-door Hardtop, kit #2169

I admit, I forgot about XP-892. Which confirms everything you've posted. Thank you. I've enjoyed the discussion on this subject.

Ah, yes your referring to GM prototype XP-849. The proposed Corvair II for the 1970's. And your right, it did go on after GM ordered development to be stop on the second generation Corvair. But, it's not 100% clear that XP-849 would retain Corvair's original rear engined powertrain, or go front wheel drive. Only two full size XP-849s proposals were done up. Neither one made it beyond a clay mock up stage. And only one had the nameplate "Corvair II" on it. There is also some question about whether XP-849 was a proposal for a car designed for one of GM's overseas divisions, rather than domestically. In my reasearch, I have the date of June 1967 as being the end of the XP-849 project. Looking at the XP849 models, I question if it really was being designed using the second generation Corvair chassis as some have speculated. The rear deck on both clays look awfully short to me. Yet one the clays, like the actual Corvair shows no opening in the front, indicating a prossable rear engine layout. The clay with actual "Corvair II" nameplates on it looks like it may have had opening in the front to accommodate a front engine set up. Again, these were nothing but proposals that got no farther than clay models. And one carried the nameplate "Corvair II". So was this a going to really be a 3rd generation Corvair for the 1970's? I'm not sure one way or the other? I still think in the end that Corvair was such a black eye for GM that the new car would not have come with that name on it.

MPC' 1968 Annuals. Chevrolet Camaro SS 396 2-door Hardtop, kit #1968 Chevrolet Impala SS 427 2-door Hardtop with Trailer, kit #368 Chevrolet Impala SS 427 Convertible with Trailer, kit #468 Chevrolet Corvette 2-Coupe, kit #568 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible, kit #668 Chevrolet Fleetside Pick-Up Stock or Tow Truck, kit #868 Dodge Charger R/T 2-door Hardtop, kit #768 Dodge Coronet 2-door Hardtop, kit #1768 Dodge Coronet Convertible, kit #1868 Ford Mustang 2+2 2-door Fastback, kit #1368 Jeep Jeepster 2-door Convertible, kit #2068 Oldsmobile Toronado 2-door Hardtop, kit #1468 Plymouth Barracuda 2-door Fastback, kit #268 Pontiac Bonneville 2-door Hardtop, kit #968 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible, kit #1068 Pontiac GTO 2-door Hardtop, kit #1168 Pontiac GTO Convertible, kit #1268 Pontiac Firebird 2-door Hardtop, kit #1568

One other note, in the quote you used above, it says that Chevrolet stopped development work on the Corvair early in 1968. That is not correct. GM sent word to Chevrolet to stop all work on future Corvairs, other than what was needed to comply with government regulations, in April of 1965. GM was already planning on replacing the Corvair with the Panther, a.k.a. the Camaro. The Mustang had shown the direction that Chevrolet needed to go with its next sporty compact car. Again, it's my opinion that the publicity from Nader's book and the resulting law suits, caused GM to keep Corvair longer than it was really needed. If they dropped the Corvair in the middle of all the controversy, it may have looked to the public that GM also believed their car was as poorly engineered and designed as Mr. Nader claimed. GM felt it could not afford to lose face on this one.

I have a degree in Automotive History. My first major paper was on the history of the Chevrolet Corvair. Above information you've passed on is quite correct. Other the fact that John DeLorean didn't take over the reigns of Chevrolet until 1969. The die on Corvair's demise was well set before he took over the division. Once Camaro hit the market, taking over as Chevy's sporty compact, the Corvair was doomed. Compare the sales of Corvair in 1966, before Camaro, and in 1967, after the Camaro was on the Chevy show floors. I believe, if it wasn't the negative publicity generated by Nader and the lawsuits that resulted, there would not have been a Corvair after '67. There was no need for it. Most people knew by the late 1960's Corvair was not going to make it into the 70's. How the folks at AMT where not aware of this with their ties to the industry is the part that baffles me. As we know, it was not a big secret. I'm wondering if George Toteff leaving AMT to start MPC didn't have something to do with this? Some talented people went with him. As MPC rose, AMT seemed to decline. AMT lost the the two big GM divisions of the time, and in a fairly short time, to MPC. Losing both Pontiac's and Chevrolet's kit and promo business had to be a big deal. And look at the timing of the loss of Chevrolet. 1967, as the 1968 model year was being planned. I suspect they may have missed a lot of inside information on where Chevrolet was heading in the near future. Could this be why they thought Chevrolet was going to have a Corvair still for 1970? It makes one wonder?

MPC's 1967 Annuals. Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray 2-door Coupe, kit #1-0567 Dodge Charger 2-door Fastback, kit #1-0767 Ford Mustang 2+2 2-door Fastback, kit #1-1367 Oldsmobile Toronado 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-1467 Pontiac Bonneville 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-0967 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible, kit #1-1067 Pontiac Firebird 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-1567 Pontiac GTO 2-door Hardtop, kit #1-1167 Pontiac GTO Convertible, kit #1-1267

MPC's 1966 Annuals. Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray 2-door Coupe, kit #5 Dodge Monaco 500 2-door Hardtop, kit #6 Dodge Charger 2-door Fastback, kit #7 Dodge Polara 500 Convertible, kit #8 Ford Mustang 2+2 2-door Fastback 2-in-1, kit #13 Pontiac Bonneville 2-door Hardtop, kit #9 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible, kit #10 Pontiac GTO 2-door Hardtop GeeTO Tiger, kit #11 Pontiac GTO Convertible, kit #12

MPC's 1965 Annuals. Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray 2-door Coupe, kit #2 Dodge Monaco 2-door Hardtop, kit #3 Dodge Custom 880 Convertible, kit #4

MPC's 1964 Annual. Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray 2-door Coupe, kit #1

JoHan's 1973 Annual. Cadillac Eldorado 2-door Hardtop, kit #GC -2300

JoHan's 1972 Annuals. Cadillac Eldorado 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-211 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-210 Oldsmobile Toronado 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-208

JoHan's 1971 Annuals. AMC Javelin AMX 2-door Hardtoo, kit #C-113 Cadillac Eldorado 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-114 Ford Maverick 2-door Sedan, kit #C-109 Mercury Comet 2-door Sedan, kit #C-112 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-115 Oldsmobile Toronado 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-111

JoHan's 1970 Annuals. AMC Hornet 2-door Sedan "Green Hornet", kit #C-2070 AMC Javelin 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1170 AMC Rebel 2-door Hardtop, kit C-1870 Cadillac Coupe de Ville 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1270 Cadillac Eldorado 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1570 Ford Maverick 2-door Sedan, kit #C-1370 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1670 Oldsmobile Toronado 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-4970 Plymouth GTX 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1770 Plymouth Roadrunner 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1470 Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1970

JoHan's 1969 Annuals. AMC Javelin 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1469 AMC Ambassador 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1569 AMC Rebel SST 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1969 Cadillac Coupe de Ville 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1769 Cadillac Eldorado 2-door Hardtoo, kit #C-1269 Oldsmobile 442 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1369 Oldsmobile Toronado 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1869 Plymouth GTX 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-2069 Plymouth Roadrunner 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1669

JoHan's 1968 Annuals. AMC Javelin 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-2568 AMC Ambassador 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1768 AMC Ambassador Convertible, kit #C-2068 * Cadillac Coupe de Ville 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1668 Cadillac de Ville Convertible, kit #C-1968 Cadillac Eldorado 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-2468 Chrysler 300 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1868 Chrysler 309 Convertible, kit #C-2268 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-2368 Plymouth Fury 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1568 Plymouth Fury Convertible, kit #C-1868 * In real cars, the last AMC Ambassador convertible was built in 1967. No full-size Ambassadors were built for the '68 model year.

JoHan's 1967 Annuals. AMC Ambassador 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1367 AMC Ambassador Convertible, kit #C-1667 Cadillac Coupe de Ville 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1267 Cadillac de Ville Convertible, kit #C-1567 Cadillac Eldorado 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1867 Chrysler 300 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1167 Chrysler 300 Convertible, kit #C-1467 Plymouth Fury 2-door Hardtop, kit #C-1967 Plymouth Fury Convertible, kit #C-1767

Look at those remote truck is making me want one. And that's all I need. More toys!