Something about the roll cage and the rear frame section just doesn't look right on these kits. Along with all the other qwirks, it's a shame. I've started using the MPC chassis and fortunately I have a bunch of JoHan's too. I have about 15 P/L kits, but I just get so frustrated with them. I think it would be real cool if someone out there made a Logghe chassis parts pack from the old Jo-Han tools. In my opinion they were the best looking.