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Here are some sneak-peaks of the upcoming AMT Ford C900 GarWood Refuse Truck.
Over 115 new parts, lots of detail and moveable packer and compactor blades. New 5-hole "steel" "Budd type" wheels and a "D" shaped gas tank.
As a test shot these are preliminary pieces and the final parts might be slightly different.
This will be a great kit!
More later!
Tim
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This is the cleanest example of this cab I've seen. The windshield install is superb. The interior details are top notch.
Well done !!
Tim
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What Ben said above is correct. Round2 scanned an original Ertl Transtar CO4070A kit, a new CAD drawing was made and the kit was re-engineered from there. The tool/mold for the original kit was altered in 1975 and is no longer viable. While the subject is the same as the original kit and the original kit served as the hopping off point, the kit is all new. New parts layout, some new parts, added detail. Regarding the brand names - as someone else said, Round2 has no rights or claim to use the trademark name "Ertl". Round2 bought the AMT kit line that included many Ertl developed kits and it included the MPC developed truck kits. Ertl bought the MPC truck kits in the 70's and rebranded them as Ertl kits. Ertl modifed the tool for the DM800/Rex Mixer into the IH Paystar/Rex Mixer. The DM600, DM800 and Gravel Trailer were originally MPC kits but sold for years branded as Ertl. When Round2 obtained the MPC brand they applied the MPC brand back on the DM600, DM800 and the Gravel trailer.
Use of the AMT brand on what were once Ertl kits is correct.
Tim
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I got the media sample of the Allison Turbine Engine today. The original was not molded in green. Round2 decided to go with a color similar to Detroit Diesel Alpine Green for the parts pack.
The turbine should be a direct fit into an Astro95 or Titan90.
Chevrolet, GMC, White-Freightliner, Kenworth and Peterbilt all installed Allison Turbines in experimental trucks.
Not my photo, but this would make a great display! A real Allison Turbine with an AMT model of the trucks and the turbine engine.
Back in 2014 I stuffed one of the turbine engines under a Peterbilt 352.
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The 4270 - A great kit! I have a very vivid memory of the first time I bought one and opened it up to see that weird blue plastic.
Tim
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This is a media sample kit with production kits coming soon. For those not familiar, this is an all-new tool based on an original Ertl 4070A kit. All the parts were scanned and new digital engineering drawings were made. Several new parts were created along with cleaning up existing parts and adding missing detail to others. The new kit, we can't call it a reissue because it's different from the original 1973 kit - the parts layout and trees are different, chrome parts count is different, is the same configuration specification-wise as the 1973 version. The kit includes the brochures that the original had, the instruction booklet is the original in style and features the original photography and retro painting tips. The decal sheet has the original stye Loadmasters logos as well as other company names, 3 (three) IH style paint stripes, door "CO4070A" logos and other items. The kit is molded in a a cream/off white plastic. It has a good quality feel and look to it and the off-white makes for easy reading of part numbers for old tired eyes. Well done Round2
The photos didn't load in the order I wanted, sorry about that.
Tim
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The "Peterbilt Wrecker" will be the 1100-series cabbed 359. Originally kit T533, which is the same as the wrecker kit ran by Ertl/Racing Champs/RC2 in the 2002-2005 time frame.
Fresh box art, new decals.
Tim
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359 and the 289 (single drive 359) were always tilt hood with rolled (round) fenders. 359 is a wide front version of a 358.
353 was a flat fender, wide front, butterfly hood. Revell attempted this with the odd shaped fenders on a 359 tilt hood.
358 and the 288 (single drive 358) was a narrow front, tilt hood with rolled fenders. 358 is a tilt hood version of a 351.
351 and the 281 (single drive 351) was a narrow radiator, butterfly hood with rolled fenders and later flat fenders and optional set-back axle).
348 was a fiberglass slope hood, somewhat narrow front tilt hood for dump and mixer.
349 was a fiberglass slope hood, wide front tilt hood version of 348
All other hoods were butterfly - 341, 343, 381, 383, 387, 397, 391, 350 and back.
Back in the late 50's/early 60's, there was an engineering drawing of a wide-front 351 "tropic radiator" - looking very much like what would later become the 359. It is unclear if any were built.
Like what Terry said - in the modeling world.. anything goes. Once a truck leaves the factory.. all bets are off. To confuse the issue even more - back in the day, Peterbilt had a "repair shop" at the factory that would rebuild customers trucks with newer parts - you might have a 350 with a newer cab, or a 1957 351 converted to a wide-front 359 - it would look like a 359 but with the 350-era cab and be 10 years older than a 359 should be.. (the truck would still be a 351 technically).
Uh-oh.. rambling again...
Tim
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Only the 351, 353, and some other off highway models had butterfly hoods. The 359 was always a tilt, but in the modeling world anything goes. Me personally, I think a butterfly 359 would be cool. The fenders would have to be mounted to the frame, but it could work.
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Hi Gino,
With those tires and wheels you chose this will be a looker. I'm looking forward to your mods.
So the hood can be tilted forward or each side tilted up? Is that a "butterfly" deal? Is this only with the needle nose hood?
Great project.
Tilt hood opens to the front, a butterfly hood has side and top panels that open up towards the center (like a 1930's and 30's automobile).
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I'm enjoying watching this build. So much detail.
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NAILED IT !!!
Tim
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To look like a proper 351/281, sand off the raised lip and row of rivets on the side of the hood. Replace the raised lip with a scribed in panel seam. Also sand off the rows of angled rivets on the sides of the hood. The top of hood fluted ribs also are not present on the 351 hood. The raised side lip, angle rivets, angled air cleaner cut and the fluted ribs on the top are all features of a tilt hood. 351/281 was a butterfly hood.
351 also didn't have the back of fender step like the 359 has. The 351 step was tucked into the corner between the fender and the lower skirt.
Here are a couple of 351 hood photos that should help.
Tim
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Looking good !
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Here's a photo of one of the NASA Peterbilt 351L 's when brand new.
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Nice work on the engine!
240" wheelbase - darned close !
Tim
Tim, thank you for the spec´s. I didn´t think of the possibility that the BBC could be even longer. But it´s probably true because when I squeeze my 12v71 in, there is not room enough under the hood for a deep-core radiator. For the shutters I have the same piece as used for my logger. I only modified it a little to be a bit longer. I never knew the wheelbase figure. Got some tips but each was different. So, I stopped caring and just made a scale drawing with WB estimated from the photos. 235" is 238 milimeters in 1/25 scale. My estimated WB is 240 milimeters. Not bad, I think.
I think there is one more build idea... the 1100 series cab combined with either full walk-on fenders or the shortened ones with bigger fuel tanks. I chose the recabbed version because it looks even more weird.
I started my build as usual with the engine. I didn´t have the buzzin´ dozen but I had two 6v71s which I combined to get a 12v71.
More to follow.
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Here is where my project sits. The radiator shutters will be sourced from an AMT White-Freightliner Dual Drive kit.
I made the hood in late 2011 or early '12.. now it's just waiting for inspiration to hit.
Tim
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I have one of these as a planned build also. The photo of one of the trucks with the older Unilite cab shows the trucks as they were originally built - The trucks were later recabbed with the 1100-series cabs. This gives two build idea.. older, original, which is probably what mine will be, or the later version with the 1100-series cab.
The trucks were model 351L (L for logger - and had the full walk-on fenders). They were very highly spec'd and customized from the base 351.
The original color applied at the factory was all white - white cab, hood, fenders, fuel tanks, wheels and chassis.
Some spec's to help in your build:
Wheelbase: 235"
Hendrickson RSA-380 walking beam rear suspension
Firestone tires originally installed10:00 x 22
The hood is the long-hood for the 12v71 and the truck has the deep-core radiator - Most likely the overall BBC is longer than the typical 127" that a 12v71 equipped 351 had, the build sheet doesn't indicate the BBC.
I'm looking forward to your build!
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The kit represents a 1968-70 Fruehauf. The type of tank was built into the 80s, but the full round body was not that common. I have only seen 2 of this configuration in person, the rest have been oval shaped (true elliptical).
This release of the kit has the tank halves re-tooled to eliminate the warped parts. The original tool was from 1970 and had worn out.
The decals include red stripe options for the tank body and the tractor (Peterbilt 352, but could work with others).Attached pics: Box and decals; Box side; Partially assembled new-release; Instruction sheet paint guide; modified build with additional axles and Moebius wheels and modified tank body for a Michigan Special style tanker; Modified tank body (wider) and resin 2-hole wheels from KFS.
Tim
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Plenty of work done here. Looking good.
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The detail, the opening doors, etc are bringing this kit to life.
Nice swap to the 8v71.
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Nice detail work!
AMT Ford C900 GarWood Refuse Truck-Test Shot
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^Gotnitro - I don't know if the interior walls will be lined. If not a thin sheet of Evergreen plastic should do the trick.
Tim