absmiami Posted January 4, 2018 Author Posted January 4, 2018 don't think Mr. Leno will object to the link .... this is just the coolest looking pre-war Grand prix car I've ever seen actually - I've only seen photos and videos and I'm breaking one of my rules ... I generally never build anything that I haven't actually walked up to and photographed but I'm making an exception for this thing so the Cooper is back in the barn for a little while so I can build me a 1924 Delage Grand Prix car the parts are 3D printed and casted by a Georgia modeler well known to participants of the NNL South Atlanta show his name is Pico he actually "drew" - and built - the 1925 race winner using printed parts from Shapeways that he then re-cast in metal. I'm taking a second set of his parts to modify for the 1924/5 car - and wait til you see the engine casting! which was a sort of hybrid car - this is the car that has been restored and featured on the Leno video I don't think any of the other 2LCV's have survived - maybe one other early car here we go 2 Quote
absmiami Posted January 4, 2018 Author Posted January 4, 2018 Gramps - good guess - Auto Kits did the '27 Delage - which had a straight eight engine - though the kit was a curbside ... 1 Quote
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, absmiami said: ...the parts are 3D printed and casted by a Georgia modeler well known to participants of the NNL South Atlanta show ...his name is Pico ...he actually "drew" - and built - the 1925 race winner using printed parts from Shapeways that he then re-cast in metal. Yup, Pico Elgin is a wizard. He's a member of the ACME club (me too sometimes). He was one of the early-adopters of 3D printing tech for model cars, built a couple of his own printers years ago, and does outstanding work. I'll be following your work here with much interest. 1 Quote
Gramps46 Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 My hats off to my friend Pico then. I have one of his bodies. Impressive. 1 Quote
absmiami Posted January 4, 2018 Author Posted January 4, 2018 "I have one of his bodies" Did Pico 3 D print his body ? - does that mean that he can be two places at one time ?? what do you do when your "parts" start to fall off ?? Quote
thunderbolt Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 I am building a cyclekart based on that very car. Quote
absmiami Posted January 5, 2018 Author Posted January 5, 2018 a cyclekart based upon a Delage ??? couple more shots - the translucent parts are 3D printed by Shapeways these include the engine, exhausts, tires and wheel rims other parts are resin casted the body parts are white metal casted - partly because they look cool - and partly because the car was finished with a turned metal pattern - EVERYWHERE - I'll be scratch-building the other stuff think I forgot to mention that this is 1/24 scale try scratch-building that engine and exhaust manifold in 1/24th - lots a luck ... 2 Quote
Gramps46 Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 6:33 PM, absmiami said: "I have one of his bodies" Did Pico 3 D print his body ? - does that mean that he can be two places at one time ?? what do you do when your "parts" start to fall off ?? I have his 3D printed 328 BMW coupe body. Sorry, should have been more specific. 1 Quote
Erik Smith Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 Very, very cool car. 2 liter v-12? Wow. 1 Quote
Richard Bartrop Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 `I will be watching this one for sure. 1 Quote
absmiami Posted January 8, 2018 Author Posted January 8, 2018 initially - this will not be real time work was begun 2 months ago so I'll be posting in catch-up mode for a week or two ... first prep work on body before making changes to build the restored car. the opening for the cockpit was covered in a "film" of white metal - removed with steel cutting burs and metal files removed the thick metal engine bulkhead and did some surface prep and removed quite a lot of metal flashing from the inside 2 Quote
Bugatti Fan Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 Nice subject.! I noticed a couple of references to the Auto Models kit. It is in white metal, 24th scale and is made by South Eastern Fine cast here in the UK. The company has an interesting range of classics in their Finecast and Auto Kits ranges. They also have a nice range of old British steam road going vehicles in 32nd scale. Their catalogue is on their website and they work mail order. Incidentally, one of their main lines of occupation is the manufacture of British Locomotive models for model railway enthusiasts. 1 Quote
absmiami Posted January 10, 2018 Author Posted January 10, 2018 per the attached good kits - similar to the 12 cylinder cars of '24 and '25 it's a curbside kit - but a good start it was inching higher on my to-build list - until I got my hands on Pico's castings/printings has a straight 8 cyl engine - the cylinder head looked a lot like the heads on the earlier car and shared a lot of design features 1 Quote
1500gp Posted January 11, 2018 Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Wow, the famous Delage 2LCV in 1/24 .... where can I found the parts ? .... I know the real car because I see it some times in different events in France. After its restoration, the owner show us this marvelous beast in the hillclimb race of Chanteloup-Les-Vignes in 2004 (oldest hillclim race in the world ... 1898) where I was the flagman and secretary during 10 years (1998 to 2008) and the President was my friend Patrick Delâge (great grandson of Louis Delâge). The sound of this car is one of my 7 preferates (12Cyl Delage 2LCV 1925, 8Cyl Delage 1500GP 1927, 8 Cyl Bugatti T59, 8Cyl Alfa P3, V12 Ferrari 250GTO, V12 Matra, V8 Ford 427, ...etc). here, you can see P. Delâge with the driver in 2004... This car was in Retromobile (Paris motor show) two times in 2003 and 2012. If you need detailled photos of this car, just send me your Email in PM and I'll send them to you ... like these ... For information, note that the body has the same aspect as the dashbord of a Bugatti T35, T51 or T59 ... you can find decals to do it ... Edited January 11, 2018 by 1500gp 2 Quote
absmiami Posted January 11, 2018 Author Posted January 11, 2018 well - now the plot thickens ... Frederick: very good pictures - I've d/loaded what is generally available on the web - starting years ago when the car was first shown after it's extensive resto but any of your shots can be posted as you have time - and they will all be helpful / instructive etc Do you think the body rivets are copper ? they appear to be in the photos And how about the cockpit opening trim ? appears to be brass ?? regarding the parts: they were "sourced" from Pico Elgin who lives in Atlanta - I will make sure that he sees your post some or all of the parts could be available - if he is able - his terms, obviously dash: I think that Indycals produces very good Bugatti dash gauges - they mite be the answer Please ask Patrick Delage it the car will be back in the US any time in the next few years perhaps at the Amelia Island event - my favorite concourse ... 1 Quote
1500gp Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Andrew, Yes, the restoration of this car was very expensive but I think that we can speak of a restoration/reconstruction for this car ... the story of this chassis is not so clear as the journalists say ... You're right for the body rivets and the cockpit opening trim. For the body, I speak about the aspect. It's hard to explain it in US language for me but i say that the texture of the aluminium body of the Dealge 2LCV is identical as the texture of a dashboard of a Bugatti T35 ... You can find the decals to do it on Ebay ... http://www.ebay.fr/itm/FFSMC-Productions-Decals-1-24-Aluminium-Bouchonne-Petite-Planche/300643347270?hash=item45ffbd6b46:m:mCelEJWk7eb8_tajKcXMffA Now, I hope that you see what I mean ... Some other photos ... Edited January 12, 2018 by 1500gp 1 Quote
Pico Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 The English term is "engine turned". That's why I cast the body in white metal - so it could be engine turned. 1 Quote
Eric Macleod Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 I have been watching this thread from afar. This is a most impressive model of a very important subject. I will continue to watch with interest. Thanks for allowing us to come along for the ride. 1 Quote
absmiami Posted January 12, 2018 Author Posted January 12, 2018 thing 1 the '24 car had a raised lip on the cowling in front of the riding mechanic - the '25 car did not, so neither did the casting I melted a bunch of low temp - "tix" solder onto the lip - a small pile then sanded and filed into shape per the above photos next I am removing some louvers and reshaping the cockpit opening 1 Quote
absmiami Posted January 12, 2018 Author Posted January 12, 2018 "Thanks for allowing us to come along for the ride" by the way - it's a rather dangerous ride ... I think two of the team drivers were killed in races in 1925. It was that era ..... very fast cars and dirt circuits - yikes 1 Quote
absmiami Posted January 16, 2018 Author Posted January 16, 2018 the '24 car had a recess in the body work so that the riding mechanic sat slightly behind the driver so with more files and steel cutting burs I have made the recess and I removed some of the louvers - the casting is accurate for the 25 car - which ran with added louvers the last shot has some taped guidelines as I began to cut narrow lines to simulate the shape of the fuel tank cover 1 Quote
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