eBay part seller now gone

[slusher]

I do not mean this in any negative or bad way. While looking at a part I needed and noticed, I did not see PJ's Toys in any part listings. He had many parts if the price would have been what I could have afforded...

[Dave Toups]

I sure hope so. I always hated having to weed through his overpriced junk when I was searching for items.

Edited August 1, 2018 by Dave Toups

[Dave Van]

9 minutes ago, Dave Toups said:

I sure hope so. I always hated having to weed through his overpriced junk when I was searching for items.

X2!!

[1930fordpickup]

It was the over pricing that got me. Do what you want with what you have but 15 bucks for a set of tires. 

He is probably just on vacation. LOL

 

[Rat Roaster]

  He was taking Stupid Money to the extreme but i doubt that his infrequent sales paid him much more than $1/hour for his time investment.

[afx]

Good riddance. 

[Mike999]

43 minutes ago, 1930fordpickup said:

It was the over pricing that got me. Do what you want with what you have but 15 bucks for a set of tires. 

He is probably just on vacation. LOL

 

Apparently not just a vacation  His eBay "About" page says "Last Visited 5-18-2018 01:01:17 PM."   His Feedback Profile now says "Not a registered user." 

[Rob Hall]

He was a member here on MCM IIRC.

[kelson]

Not trying to start anything,but has anyone noticed that Reliable Resin has quietly popped up on Ebay  again and has had a couple listings?

[68shortfleet]

12 minutes ago, kelson said:

Not trying to start anything,but has anyone noticed that Reliable Resin has quietly popped up on Ebay  again and has had a couple listings?

I have noticed that, and somehow has also managed a 100% feedback rating too, at least as of yesterday. 

I saw a clue of his items that interested me and wondered if it would be worth the chance with ebay/PayPal buyer protection.  Just can't convince myself that it would be worth it.

[ChrisBcritter]

Frankly I miss the seller "floyd426rt" a lot more.

Edited August 1, 2018 by ChrisBcritter

[Tom Geiger]

Hey, I've always defended PJ Toys.   It's not what he was charging for a small plastic part,  it's the cost of service that you were paying for.  Most of you do not seem to understand this.   I needed a small plastic bracket that held a roof piece onto my Geo Tracker.  Part looks like a dollar item.  Chevy charged me $28 for that part. It was the cost of manufacturing it, bagging it individually, shipping it from Japan then inventorying it at a regional warehouse.  When I needed it a dealer parts guy ordered it from the warehouse, someone picked the part, wrapped and shipped it.  Then the dealership informed me it had arrived and I came in and did the purchase transaction.  That entire process justified the $28 cost.  

Notice that nobody has jumped in to replicate the Modelhaus parts business.  Simply because you cannot hand cast a resin bumper, prep it for chroming, pay for it to be chromed and then inventory it until someone needs it for $8.   If indeed a new operator came in, did a cost analysis and offered that product at a reasonable profit, you'd all be screaming bloody murder that they wanted $28 for a bumper.

 

 

[cobraman]

I get your point Tom and can't disagree with what you said but PJ was not making anything. I believe he overcharged but it was up to the buyer to decide if they wanted to pay his price.

[Tom Geiger]

2 minutes ago, cobraman said:

I get your point Tom and can't disagree with what you said but PJ was not making anything. I believe he overcharged but it was up to the buyer to decide if they wanted to pay his price.

We agree Ray.  His business model failed because the cost of providing service.. including eBay and Paypal fees etc, exceeded what the market would bear.  

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 hour ago, ChrisBcritter said:

Frankly I miss the seller "floyd426rt" a lot more.

That is distressing!

I guess it's been a while since I looked for any parts!

I hadn't realized that he was AWOL!

I will surely miss this fellow!

Picked up a lot of terrific stuff from him!

 

Steve

[ChrisBcritter]

Well, at least we still have vintagemodelcarparts and (to a lesser extent) sportfuryus...

Edited August 2, 2018 by ChrisBcritter

[MrObsessive]

I've bought from vintagemodecarparts, Sportfuryus, floyd426Rt (didn't know he was gone ), and I've gotten very good service out of all. However, PJtoys I had a BIG problem with as he came on this board and IMO was VERY curt and not so nice.

We have a right to voice (politely) a disagreement about someone's pricing or how they treat their customers. To come on a forum such as this and frankly belittle anyone that disagrees will not set well with most. IIRC, I made a comment about a part he was selling..........I believe it was either a radiator shroud, or something to that effect for Monogram's 1/8 scale Trans Am.

I was FLOORED for what he was asking price wise and I pointed it out here on the board. He came on here VERY defensive pretty much telling us that if we don't like it, we can just **** Off. Well, you just lost a potential customer (myself) as I did see some other things that looked interesting, but no way would I ever do a transaction with someone with that attitude.

I don't get the reason for pricing things so high and then not expect there to be backlash from someone. True no one has to buy it, but then when questioned why the nasty attitude?? If it's a way to weed out the chaff, well that's a very poor way of doing it.

So if he's gone, well that's how it goes!

6 hours ago, kelson said:

Not trying to start anything,but has anyone noticed that Reliable Resin has quietly popped up on Ebay  again and has had a couple listings?

Yeah I noticed that too. We daren't say his name as it can cause the board to literally EXPLODE!

Edited August 2, 2018 by MrObsessive

[gtx6970]

4 hours ago, ChrisBcritter said:

Frankly I miss the seller "floyd426rt" a lot more.

I know him personally. I went looking for him a while back and saw he has not sold anything in some time. ( his name is Larry Rose ) Ive bought  A LOT of stuff off him over the course of SEVERAL  years

Hopefully all is good with him

[Oldcarfan27]

Was this the seller on Ebay who would take complete kits, current or vintage and part them out to sell as parts?

I remember seeing mint or restorable kits that he posted that way. Bodies were $25-30 or more, chassis  $20, interiors $20, chrome  $15-20, tires or wheels  $12-15. Just absurd pricing, without any regard to rarity or desirability. 

All I could think was, "I would have wanted that as a complete kit, not the parts" or "That's a current or recently issued kit that can be bought for a fraction of what he wants for just parts".

It was frustrating to me because I just saw him as an opportunist who just want to make a buck out of every little piece, not a hobbyist who enjoyed the kits themselves. The way I saw it, whatever he couldn't sell, he probably just threw out!

I don't feel his costs and overhead justified his pricing. He could have gotten broken or damaged parts kits, sold off the good, usable parts for a FAIR price and we would have been happy to keep buying from him time and time again. As it was, complete kits were simply scattered to the wind and probably very few parts actually SOLD for what he was asking. Such a waste!

[MrObsessive]

29 minutes ago, Oldcarfan27 said:

Was this the seller on Ebay who would take complete kits, current or vintage and part them out to sell as parts?

I remember seeing mint or restorable kits that he posted that way. Bodies were $25-30 or more, chassis  $20, interiors $20, chrome  $15-20, tires or wheels  $12-15. Just absurd pricing, without any regard to rarity or desirability. 

All I could think was, "I would have wanted that as a complete kit, not the parts" or "That's a current or recently issued kit that can be bought for a fraction of what he wants for just parts".

It was frustrating to me because I just saw him as an opportunist who just want to make a buck out of every little piece, not a hobbyist who enjoyed the kits themselves. The way I saw it, whatever he couldn't sell, he probably just threw out!

I don't feel his costs and overhead justified his pricing. He could have gotten broken or damaged parts kits, sold off the good, usable parts for a FAIR price and we would have been happy to keep buying from him time and time again. As it was, complete kits were simply scattered to the wind and probably very few parts actually SOLD for what he was asking. Such a waste!

Actually a number of them do that.............this particular fellow we're talking about, his prices were waaaaay up there! True, there was a BIN and someone could offer what they thought was a fair price, but why go through the hassle of ruffling feathers for folks to see something they really want, and have to "talk down" the price?

My problem with him is when someone questioned it, he got downright mean!

Sorry, but I've got too many other things to worry about than someone getting very upset, and then put what I said on their auction page as a way to "get even".

I won't transact with someone like that.

[niteowl7710]

Well in his defense this board did bring him up pretty much monthly if not bi-weekly and belittle his business. Which no matter how much you disagree with it wasn't necessary, especially how often it happened. 

Why know earth would he be anything but "curt" with this place, when it pretty much never said a nice thing about him. 

Heck just look at the beginning of this thread, someone said "good riddance". Really what did he ever PERSONALLY do to anyone around here? Was someone forcing anyone to buy at his prices? He was clogging your search results...oh boo-hoo, how petty.

[SfanGoch]

1 hour ago, Oldcarfan27 said:

It was frustrating to me because I just saw him as an opportunist who just want to make a buck out of every little piece, not a hobbyist who enjoyed the kits themselves.

Well, that describes anyone selling, or putting up for auction, on ebay and elsewhere. Nobody does out of sheer love of a hobby or interest. They're out to make a buck and there's nothing wrong with that. It's the name of the game.

[OldTrucker]

11 hours ago, SfanGoch said:

Well, that describes anyone selling, or putting up for auction, on ebay and elsewhere. Nobody does out of sheer love of a hobby or interest. They're out to make a buck and there's nothing wrong with that. It's the name of the game.

No, not "anyone" but some and maybe on ebay a big percentage but not all.

The only times I have sold kits was either to pay medical bills but often because I wanted to buy something of more interest.

I very rarely made a profit on what I sold in fact most times I lost money! I have even had a few sought after kits that were going for big money and I put mine up for what I thought was reasonable which was 50% or less than what others were looking to get and were getting!

I love this hobby and raping other modelers on price does nothing to help keep this hobby going!

I know that many on here that sell on ebay do so not to "make money" but to buy something else they like better. Most will try and trade for what they are looking to get first before going the ebay route!

[SfanGoch]

It's no different than going to an auto salvage yard to get a part for a long discontinued car you happen to own. If the guy doesn't have the part, he'll do a search with other yards. If the part is available, and being that it's been long out of production, it's probably gonna cost you a whole lot more than you assumed. Depending on how badly you need that part, it's up to you if you want to buy it, or not.

[StevenGuthmiller]

12 hours ago, Oldcarfan27 said:

Was this the seller on Ebay who would take complete kits, current or vintage and part them out to sell as parts?

I remember seeing mint or restorable kits that he posted that way. Bodies were $25-30 or more, chassis  $20, interiors $20, chrome  $15-20, tires or wheels  $12-15. Just absurd pricing, without any regard to rarity or desirability. 

All I could think was, "I would have wanted that as a complete kit, not the parts" or "That's a current or recently issued kit that can be bought for a fraction of what he wants for just parts".

It was frustrating to me because I just saw him as an opportunist who just want to make a buck out of every little piece, not a hobbyist who enjoyed the kits themselves. The way I saw it, whatever he couldn't sell, he probably just threw out!

I don't feel his costs and overhead justified his pricing. He could have gotten broken or damaged parts kits, sold off the good, usable parts for a FAIR price and we would have been happy to keep buying from him time and time again. As it was, complete kits were simply scattered to the wind and probably very few parts actually SOLD for what he was asking. Such a waste!

I don't know anything about this particular individual, but for those of us who build vintage kits, guys like this are a god send, especially in the "post Modelhaus" age!

In some instances, price may be of little importance if you're in need of that all important part for a rare kit.

$25.00-$30.00 for a body is not at all out of the realm of possibility depending on what you need.

$20.00 for chrome parts or an interior is not out of line either.

I would happily pay $30.00 for a clean AMT 1967 Ford Galaxie body or $20.00 for the bumpers from the same kit if I needed them.

What are the options?

Now, if your talking about prices like this for currently available kits, then all I can say is..........well, you've heard the whole fool and his money thing.

I guess I just figure that they're his property.

Who am I to tell him what he can or cannot do with them.

 

 

Steve