Iconic cars not kitted

[The Junkman]

On 5/2/2019 at 6:32 PM, berr13 said:

How about an early, split rear window Volkswagen beetle in 1/25 scale?  We've waited long enough for that!

 

[SfanGoch]

On 5/1/2019 at 1:34 PM, Jantrix said:

Iconic - the term varies from person to person. As Joe just pointed out.

It might vary from person to person; but, the term is usually used in an incorrect context. The criteria to define iconic design is as follows:

"An iconic design is usually a design that is ‘ground breaking’ and one that sets new standards in its field. It is a design that other designers and manufacturers follow, as it becomes a bench mark for other similar products. Furthermore, an iconic design is one that stands up to the test of time, remaining a good design, despite the passing of years, decades and even centuries."

Apologies to hot rod enthusiasts and show car fans but none of those cars come remotely close to meeting any of the criteria for being described as "iconic".

[Can-Con]

In the spirit of Greg's original post,,,

[Rider]

8 hours ago, Can-Con said:

In the spirit of Greg's original post,,,

 

Edited May 4, 2019 by Rider

[The Creative Explorer]

18 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

Thanks much for the image and info . Now to hunt for one...

...and hope to not pay a grip of green for it !

I think you can still order them new. Tamiya releases them often.

Whilst we are at the Renault 5, I would love to see a stock 'super' 5 or a GT Turbo

 

 

 

[1972coronet]

4 minutes ago, The Creative Explorer said:

I think you can still order them new. Tamiya releases them often.

Whilst we are at the Renault 5, I would love to see a stock 'super' 5 or a GT Turbo

 

 

 

The 'regular' Renault R5 was called "Le Car" here in the U.S. --- a 'cute' name for a unique car . 

One of my best friends is a French car fanatic ! His father owned / operated a Peugeot-Renault-Alfa Romeo dealership in Santa Monica , Ca. I used to see some interesting -- and seldom-seen-in-the-U.S. -- cars parked in the driveway of their house ; the Peugeot 605 was a real stand-out ! He has one-of-the-two "grey market" Peugeot 205 GTI's imported to the U.S.  It's too bad that those cars never got a "proper" importation , as they would have sold like mad over here ! Instead , we got the 505 ( a nice car never-the-less ) and its predecessors .

I've got to keep mes yeux ouverts for a reissue of that street model R5 Turbo !         

[Can-Con]

1 hour ago, The Creative Explorer said:

I think you can still order them new. Tamiya releases them often.

Whilst we are at the Renault 5, I would love to see a stock 'super' 5 or a GT Turbo

 

 

 

Is this one close?

[StevenGuthmiller]

7 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

The 'regular' Renault R5 was called "Le Car" here in the U.S. --- a 'cute' name for a unique car . 

One of my best friends is a French car fanatic ! His father owned / operated a Peugeot-Renault-Alfa Romeo dealership in Santa Monica , Ca. I used to see some interesting -- and seldom-seen-in-the-U.S. -- cars parked in the driveway of their house ; the Peugeot 605 was a real stand-out ! He has one-of-the-two "grey market" Peugeot 205 GTI's imported to the U.S.  It's too bad that those cars never got a "proper" importation , as they would have sold like mad over here ! Instead , we got the 505 ( a nice car never-the-less ) and its predecessors .

I've got to keep mes yeux ouverts for a reissue of that street model R5 Turbo !         

My wife had a gold "Le Car" back in college.

What a pile!!!!

My first motorcycle had a bigger engine than the Renault.

The spare tire took up twice as much room under the hood as the engine!

I had a good high school friend that bought a brand new Renault in the mid 80s.

I forget the model, but he bought it because it was what he could afford at the time.

He soon found out that any price was too much!!

Let's just say that automobiles are not the strong suit of the French!

They should probably stick with cheese!

 

 

Steve

Edited May 5, 2019 by StevenGuthmiller

[Matt Bacon]

15 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Let's just say that automobiles are not the strong suit of the French!

Let’s not (no matter how tongue in cheek you’re being... ;-)) The front engine, rear wheel drive, clutch, gearbox driveline was invented as the Systeme Panhard. The 2CV was a people’s car that was also genuinely innovative, unlike the Model T. The Citroen 11CV Traction Avant came up with the monocoque body and front wheel drive 20 years before anyone in Detroit. The DS was the most sophisticated car in the world when it was launched, and for a decade or two afterwards. The Renault 5 invented the city hatchback, and the Peugeot 205 invented the 80s “hot hatch” alongside the Golf, but had a lot more “je ne sais quoi” and for twenty years in that genre (which may never have mattered in the US, but... your loss) Renault vs Peugeot vs Ford vs VW produced stellar and affordable drivers cars. The Renault Clio Williams, Peugeot 205 GTi and 406 Mi16 will eat for breakfast anything built in the US in the late 20th century over roads that have, you know, bends and bumps and hills on...

best,

M.

[SfanGoch]

36 minutes ago, Matt Bacon said:

The Renault Clio Williams, Peugeot 205 GTi and 406 Mi16 will eat for breakfast anything built in the US in the late 20th century over roads that have, you know, bends and bumps and hills on...

Yeah.....right. New York City streets will have them for lunch. Literally.

Truck front ends get torn up hitting potholes here.

Edited May 4, 2019 by SfanGoch

[StevenGuthmiller]

4 hours ago, Matt Bacon said:

Let’s not (no matter how tongue in cheek you’re being... ;-)) The front engine, rear wheel drive, clutch, gearbox driveline was invented as the Systeme Panhard. The 2CV was a people’s car that was also genuinely innovative, unlike the Model T. The Citroen 11CV Traction Avant came up with the monocoque body and front wheel drive 20 years before anyone in Detroit. The DS was the most sophisticated car in the world when it was launched, and for a decade or two afterwards. The Renault 5 invented the city hatchback, and the Peugeot 205 invented the 80s “hot hatch” alongside the Golf, but had a lot more “je ne sais quoi” and for twenty years in that genre (which may never have mattered in the US, but... your loss) Renault vs Peugeot vs Ford vs VW produced stellar and affordable drivers cars. The Renault Clio Williams, Peugeot 205 GTi and 406 Mi16 will eat for breakfast anything built in the US in the late 20th century over roads that have, you know, bends and bumps and hills on...

best,

M.

I'll just say that just because someone invents it, doesn't mean that they perfected it.

Innovation doesn't amount to a hill of beans if the thing is in the shop more than on the road.

From my experience, I wouldn't take a Renault if you gave it to me.

Just my humble opinion.

 

 

Steve

[The Creative Explorer]

13 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

The 'regular' Renault R5 was called "Le Car" here in the U.S. --- a 'cute' name for a unique car . 

One of my best friends is a French car fanatic ! His father owned / operated a Peugeot-Renault-Alfa Romeo dealership in Santa Monica , Ca. I used to see some interesting -- and seldom-seen-in-the-U.S. -- cars parked in the driveway of their house ; the Peugeot 605 was a real stand-out ! He has one-of-the-two "grey market" Peugeot 205 GTI's imported to the U.S.  It's too bad that those cars never got a "proper" importation , as they would have sold like mad over here ! Instead , we got the 505 ( a nice car never-the-less ) and its predecessors .

I've got to keep mes yeux ouverts for a reissue of that street model R5 Turbo !         

 

The first Renault 5 was exported to the States as the 'Le Car', but the successor never did make the crossing. Except for a few after the 25-years regulations.

You don't hear many french car fanatics in the States, it is usually Domestic, JDM or German stuff. There are a couple Italian and GB enthusiasts, but French car nuts are quite seldom. I just love those qurky little things and the French did make a couple of beautiful machines. Too bad they often forgot reliability :-).

The 205 is just such as an icon, I wish it got kitted too (part from the rally version from Tamiya).

 

12 hours ago, Can-Con said:

Is this one close?

Unfortunately, other than the name, it is completely different. This is the old R5, the 'super-cinque' or Super R5 was it's successor. which didn't share any body panels and even the engine lay out was different.

The old R5 had a engine longitudinally, with the gearbox in front of it! The Super 5 had the engine at the now common transverse manner.

[Mike999]

19 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

One of my best friends is a French car fanatic ! His father owned / operated a Peugeot-Renault-Alfa Romeo dealership in Santa Monica , Ca. I used to see some interesting -- and seldom-seen-in-the-U.S. -- cars parked in the driveway of their house ; the Peugeot 605 was a real stand-out ! He has one-of-the-two "grey market" Peugeot 205 GTI's imported to the U.S.  It's too bad that those cars never got a "proper" importation , as they would have sold like mad over here ! Instead , we got the 505 ( a nice car never-the-less ) and its predecessors .      

The Peugeot 504 wagon sure sold like mad in Egypt, and was downright "iconic"  there. I lived in Egypt from 2005-09 and hundreds of 504s were still running around.  And probably always will be.  We stopped at a garage/junkyard one morning to fix a slow tire leak. The huge yard in the back had junked 504 wagons almost as far as the eye could see. Some body shells were even pre-torched, so the unlucky 504 owner could just grab the body section they needed - fenders or, if he was really unlucky and rolled it over, an entire roof section.  That yard was an amazing sight.

This pic shows a typical 504 wagon: on the "Green Road" between Alexandria and Cairo, stuffed full of humans with their luggage piled on top.  I lived in Alexandria, and a whole fleet of 504s there were also used as upscale tourist taxis.  The typical Alexandria taxi at the time was an ancient Russian Lada with parts often rusting off as you watched. The Peugeots were much nicer, and I really liked their comfortable seats and upright seating position.