1/25 Saab 900

[Oldcarfan27]

On 10/30/2019 at 7:52 PM, Lownslow said:

...the owner of the burgundy one is willing to bankroll the entire project from drawing to casting

Who is he, Superfly? Will it come with leopard print seats?

I'm sorry, but those wheels are a complete turnoff for me. If I wanted modified, I'd make my own. A one off custom is too limiting, no matter what the market is.

But, I guess you know your customers. 

[keyser]

3y almost. Suspect no. Could’ve been fun. 

[64Comet404]

I'm surprised there hasn't been any 1:24-1:25 models of any SAAB cars. With all the interest in rally kits, I hope we can finally get a GT850 or a 99/900 series in plastic.

[kjohan]

It would certainly be very nice with a Saab- kit (or several),  given the history, especially in rallying. Some comments.

The 1st prio would of corse be the2-stroke / short nose GT/ Sport 850 from 1960/63 with 3 consecutive  RAC wins and 2 Monte Carlos, all with Erik Carlsson behind the wheel.

It is worth mentioning that this model was also quote succesful in track racing. In 1962 serveral cars participated in the Nurnburg Ring std car race. The cars were driven from Trollhättan to Germany by their drivers and the mechanics, with std engines installed. Uupon arrival to the track the engines were changed to racing tuned versions,  lying in the trunk. Another engine swap before going home again.

It would be easy to provide parts in one common kit to build both track and rally version,  the track version mainly being stripped of eqipment. The major differentiatior part wise would be the tyres 

 

Prio 2 would be the 99 Turbo in which Stig Blomqvist won the 1979 Swedish Rally.  The first win ever in a WRC rally with a Turbo car.

 

Prio 3 would be a 96 V4 ca 1971 

Would require some major tooling changes vs the 850 Sport / GT discussed above: new front end with considerably elongated wheel base plus larger/ "higher" wind screen and rear glass.

Once this would be done,  several interesting cars / versions could be done:

3a) the regular rally cars with cross flow dual webers and rally eqipment. Notably the 1973 Swedish rally car : no studs allowed = super narrow tyres for maximum surface pressure = traction in the snow. 

3b) the 1969 & 1970 Baja 1000 cars driven with remarkable results by Ingvar Lindquist and Erik Carlsson 

3c) the rally cross cars driven by mainly Stig Blomqvist and Per Eklund from 1971 onwards.

Wide fenders, small fat wheels, roll cage and only the essentials.  Barely.

Note that from 1976 these rally cross V4 cars were turbocharged as per intiative in -75 by driver, mechanic and inventor Sigvard "Sigge" Johansson. 

Turbocharging was never applied on the production V4.

Prio 4 a 900 . There the competition connection would be Anders Norstedt Rally Cross car, winning European Championships for a number of years 

Quite a history to choose from.

 

Edited September 11, 2022 by kjohan
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[Smoke Wagon]

16 hours ago, keyser said:

3y almost. Suspect no. Could’ve been fun. 

I respect him for turning the other cheek when others on here were picking apart a project that wasn’t intended for them. I think if the project was completed, this place would be one of the last to know, as evidenced by the feedback he received.

I don’t know why the old guys complain about young people not taking interest in the hobby, then turn around and put up a front to those who do take an interest in the hobby just because they have different taste. 

[LDO]

20 minutes ago, Smoke Wagon said:

I respect him for turning the other cheek when others on here were picking apart a project that wasn’t intended for them. I think if the project was completed, this place would be one of the last to know, as evidenced by the feedback he received.

I don’t know why the old guys complain about young people not taking interest in the hobby, then turn around and put up a front to those who do take an interest in the hobby just because they have different taste. 

Thank you. 

[Oldcarfan27]

3 hours ago, Smoke Wagon said:

I respect him for turning the other cheek when others on here were picking apart a project that wasn’t intended for them. I think if the project was completed, this place would be one of the last to know, as evidenced by the feedback he received.

I don’t know why the old guys complain about young people not taking interest in the hobby, then turn around and put up a front to those who do take an interest in the hobby just because they have different taste. 

Nobody was picking him apart about what he wanted to make. As a matter of fact, they would have been even more customers had he chosen to add the stock parts to the package. 

Many wished him good luck and didn't tell him what to do, they just offered advice. 

Problem is, people get insulted for any little thing nowadays - including a little advice. Even if it's not even directed at them! However, I think he was big enough boy to speak for himself, Thank you.

By the way, Lownslow is a regular member and was last here on Friday, so no one scared him off. He has shared some great builds since 2019

[Smoke Wagon]

1 hour ago, Oldcarfan27 said:

Nobody was picking him apart about what he wanted to make. As a matter of fact, they would have been even more customers had he chosen to add the stock parts to the package. 

Many wished him good luck and didn't tell him what to do, they just offered advice. 

Problem is, people get insulted for any little thing nowadays - including a little advice. Even if it's not even directed at them! However, I think he was big enough boy to speak for himself, Thank you.

By the way, Lownslow is a regular member and was last here on Friday, so no one scared him off. He has shared some great builds since 2019

Settle down hoss. I wasn’t offended, I was making my own observation on the matter. 

[espo]

20 hours ago, kjohan said:

It would certainly be very nice with a Saab- kit (or several),  given the history, especially in rallying. Some comments.

The 1st prio would of corse be the2-stroke / short nose GT/ Sport 850 from 1960/63 with 3 consecutive  RAC wins and 2 Monte Carlos, all with Erik Carlsson behind the wheel.

It is worth mentioning that this model was also quote succesful in track racing. In 1962 serveral cars participated in the Nurnburg Ring std car race. The cars were driven from Trollhättan to Germany by their drivers and the mechanics, with std engines installed. Uupon arrival to the track the engines were changed to racing tuned versions,  lying in the trunk. Another engine swap before going home again.

It would be easy to provide parts in one common kit to build both track and rally version,  the track version mainly being stripped of eqipment. The major differentiatior part wise would be the tyres 

 

Prio 2 would be the 99 Turbo in which Stig Blomqvist won the 1979 Swedish Rally.  The first win ever in a WRC rally with a Turbo car.

 

Prio 3 would be a 96 V4 ca 1971 

Would require some major tooling changes vs the 850 Sport / GT discussed above: new front end with considerably elongated wheel base plus larger/ "higher" wind screen and rear glass.

Once this would be done,  several interesting cars / versions could be done:

3a) the regular rally cars with cross flow dual webers and rally eqipment. Notably the 1973 Swedish rally car : no studs allowed = super narrow tyres for maximum surface pressure = traction in the snow. 

3b) the 1969 & 1970 Baja 1000 cars driven with remarkable results by Ingvar Lindquist and Erik Carlsson 

3c) the rally cross cars driven by mainly Stig Blomqvist and Per Eklund from 1971 onwards.

Wide fenders, small fat wheels, roll cage and only the essentials.  Barely.

Note that from 1976 these rally cross V4 cars were turbocharged as per intiative in -75 by driver, mechanic and inventor Sigvard "Sigge" Johansson. 

Turbocharging was never applied on the production V4.

Prio 4 a 900 . There the competition connection would be Anders Norstedt Rally Cross car, winning European Championships for a number of years 

Quite a history to choose from.

 

I have always found the Saab car interesting since they are different in many ways from what I'm used to seeing around here. Nice to have some genuine background information and understanding that would have otherwise gone unnoticed here.