The Goat Wagon Update 12/30/22 Body In Paint!

[James2]

YES!

[dino246gt]

I love the stance and your bodywork is excellent, looks like a GTO wagon kit! Sweet!

 

[Plowboy]

10 hours ago, slusher said:

Founnd you a  LS motor Roger, that will work and give you some extra  horse power.

Yeah, the more looked at that six cylinder, the less I liked it. If I was building it plane Jane, it would have been perfect. But, it didn't fit with what I'm doing with it. 

[Plowboy]

Something that's been bugging me with this model was the quarter panels. They didn't have that definitive line toward the top like it should. So, I decided to fix them. I first sanded the area back down to bare styrene. Then I took a length of .010 styrene rod and glued it where I wanted the line to be. 

Once it was dry enough, I cut through it at the door line and puttied it in.

Even in this rough stage, you can see the line it creates. I also found a new set of wheels and tires for it. These are from the Foose '67 Coronet. To me, they suit it perfect! 

I just gotta modify the wheel backs so that they are see through. I thought I could use the wheel backs from the other wheels. But, these are designed completely different. More on that later.

Something else that's bugging me are the tail lights. Kinda doesn't make sense to me to have the rest of the body right and the tail lights wrong. But, they're definitely not going to be easy to replicate. Gonna have to some siphering on that one.   

[thatz4u]

Roger, great looking long roof....

[espo]

Great idea to replicate the rear quarter body line. That corrector line would be present on the 1:1 car. 

[Steve H]

Excellent work as always Roger. Those new wheels definitely look right under it. I really dig the big old wagons, this is a beautiful example of an old wagon with great lines.

Cheers, Steve

[Plowboy]

Not a lot done. But, I fixed the wheel backs so that the wheels are see through. My first thought was to open slots on them. But, that would have been difficult and time consuming. So, I decided to make it simple and separate the rim from the hub. Then cut the excess away from the hub. Of course the hub now has to be glued to the wheel. But, it works!

I have the quarter panels sanded down and ready for primer. Still mulling over those taillights. The wheels look much better now!

 

[espo]

On the taillights, are you thinking about keeping the basic oblong shape much like an OEM or something different?  

[slusher]

22 hours ago, Plowboy said:

Yeah, the more looked at that six cylinder, the less I liked it. If I was building it plane Jane, it would have been perfect. But, it didn't fit with what I'm doing with it. 

If your building it you should love it!,

[Slotto]

Oh, you're not kidding! Perfect wheels for this build! Now that the wheels are see thru drop in some flat washers on the back side

[Plowboy]

11 hours ago, espo said:

On the taillights, are you thinking about keeping the basic oblong shape much like an OEM or something different?  

I'm thinking about doing them OEM David. I just don't know if I can get the dimensions right. It's going to take some research for sure. 

[Plowboy]

11 hours ago, slusher said:

If your building it you should love it!,

My thoughts exactly Carl!

[Plowboy]

10 hours ago, Slotto said:

Oh, you're not kidding! Perfect wheels for this build! Now that the wheels are see thru drop in some flat washers on the back side

I'll be using the disc brakes from the wagon. I'll more than likely have to modify them to work.

[espo]

13 hours ago, Plowboy said:

I'm thinking about doing them OEM David. I just don't know if I can get the dimensions right. It's going to take some research for sure. 

Googling '66 Pontiac wagons the pictures show a pretty good image. My impression comparing the Chevelle wagon taillights, and the Tempest is that the Chevelle lamps fit very flush with the shape of the body while the Tempest lamps are a little shorter since the backup lamps are in the bumper on the Tempest.  There looks to be a raised edge around the lamps that isn't seen on the Chevelle. Maybe use the Chevelle lamps, shortened by removing the backup lights and create a small ridge to support the oblong taillights.  

[Plowboy]

I've been studying this photo. It's about the best one I could find.

To me, they look a little taller than the Malibu taillights. But, I've made mine the same height. I started by seeing if I could even make the housings. No use in doing anything else first. I pretty much just guessed on the shape as I can't find the dimensions on them. Then I added the framing. 

I then cut away the backing for the original taillights. I left a bit of a lip on the side of the tailgate to have something to glue the new housings to.

First test fit.

Trimmed down and glued in.

I still have to add some styrene to the trailing edges of the quarter panels and create the brow above the taillights. I'm not going to be able to get everything dead on accurate. But, I believe I can get very close. I'm not looking forward to the putty and sanding work around the taillights. That's for sure! But, I can't turn back now!

[Beamerman]

Awesome work! This will look amazing when finished...really great work

[Kit Karson]

Great progress! Wheels & Tires are definitely going to play a big part in the final version!  Watching to see your vision, Roger! -KK 

[Joe Nunes]

Great model work!  It’s going to look soooo nice.  ?

Joe

[thatz4u]

Moebius Ford styleside pickup tail light might fit.....

[slusher]

Real nice scratch work!

[espo]

21 hours ago, Plowboy said:

I've been studying this photo. It's about the best one I could find.

To me, they look a little taller than the Malibu taillights. But, I've made mine the same height. I started by seeing if I could even make the housings. No use in doing anything else first. I pretty much just guessed on the shape as I can't find the dimensions on them. Then I added the framing. 

I then cut away the backing for the original taillights. I left a bit of a lip on the side of the tailgate to have something to glue the new housings to.

First test fit.

Trimmed down and glued in.

I still have to add some styrene to the trailing edges of the quarter panels and create the brow above the taillights. I'm not going to be able to get everything dead on accurate. But, I believe I can get very close. I'm not looking forward to the putty and sanding work around the taillights. That's for sure! But, I can't turn back now!

This picture of the stock taillights is better than any I was able to find. 

[Ace-Garageguy]

Looking really good.   

[Plowboy]

12 hours ago, espo said:

This picture of the stock taillights is better than any I was able to find. 

I always find the best photos in the for sale ads. Especially the ones by Mecum, Barrett-Jackson, Streetside, etc. They always have many photos. But, they don't always have the car you're looking for.

[Plowboy]

On 11/1/2022 at 4:21 PM, thatz4u said:

Moebius Ford styleside pickup tail light might fit.....

I have many scrap pieces of clear red styrene that I can make the lenses from.