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I like JDM and Euro stuff. Particularly outlaw Porsche stuff and the kind of things you might see on Japanese street racers. I've ordered some resin stuff from Scale Production, USCP, SpotModel, and it's great stuff, but I'm sure there are other places to order from as well. Is there a list somewhere?

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hobby design for engines , body kits, seats, engine parts and wheels

eighteen81 for wheels, seats and spoilers

aoshima and fujimi have fairly extensive aftermarket wheels

and theres loads of 3d print engines if you look a tx3dcustoms and iceman collections

 

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C1 Models and A&N Models have some exceptionally good European stuff too, A&N's definitely more pick up, truck and van related however.

Got C1's Caddy, Koenigs Ferrari, Bowler Defender 110 and the SLS AMG body kit and they're nothing short of kit quality stellar.

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White Chocolate is a great source for some euro stuff. But their selection is limited.

Iceman has some parts that would work in euro or JDM settings, but most of their stuff is more for American subjects and hot rods.

Juan4you on ebay also has a few things that would suit foreign subjects, but again, most offerings are for American subjects and hot rods.

Ebay in general is a great resource. I have found VW engines on there from random people.

Scale Stars is a great resource for JDM. They have transkits for several popular JDM models, plus some universal fit type stuff.

Street Blisters and ZoomOn are also great resources. Not the greatest selection, but they seem to specialize in euro and JDM subject matter.

 

And I am running into a similar problem. I build mainly foreighn vehicles and the 3D printed parts offerings are somewhat lacking. I am actually thinking about designing my own parts at this point.  I suck at the printing part though, so I need to figure out how to get my designs printed out.

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18 minutes ago, ctruss53 said:

 I suck at the printing part though, so I need to figure out how to get my designs printed out.

Speaking of that, have you used Shapeways before? I've had a few people mention it, but haven't ordered.

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33 minutes ago, oldcarfan said:

Speaking of that, have you used Shapeways before? I've had a few people mention it, but haven't ordered.

Don't get me started on the Shapeways rip off.

I hate Shapeways. You pay someone for a design, then you pay again to get it printed. Oh, but if you want it printed sometime this year you pay more. And then you pay other fees and finally you pay too much for shipping. It is ridiculous. The part design prices are already just as expensive as 3D printed parts sellers like Iceman are charging. Then you pay all those fees. Next thing you know a nitrous bottle costs you like $45.

Now, if I went to Shapeways with my own design, that would cut out one of the expenses. But their turn around time is slower than a snail.

Once I come up with some designs, I will find someone that can print faster than Shapeways, and for less. Or I'll take some time and learn how to print. It can't be that hard. I just haven't taken the time to learn it.

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3 hours ago, ctruss53 said:

Don't get me started on the Shapeways rip off.

I hate Shapeways. You pay someone for a design, then you pay again to get it printed. Oh, but if you want it printed sometime this year you pay more. And then you pay other fees and finally you pay too much for shipping. It is ridiculous. The part design prices are already just as expensive as 3D printed parts sellers like Iceman are charging. Then you pay all those fees. Next thing you know a nitrous bottle costs you like $45.

Now, if I went to Shapeways with my own design, that would cut out one of the expenses. But their turn around time is slower than a snail.

Once I come up with some designs, I will find someone that can print faster than Shapeways, and for less. Or I'll take some time and learn how to print. It can't be that hard. I just haven't taken the time to learn it.

Yeah 3D printing quality parts is super simple hardly an inconvenience.

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31 minutes ago, Texas_3D_Customs said:

Yeah 3D printing quality parts is super simple hardly an inconvenience.

Posts like this are why I order from Iceman instead of you.

I never said 3D printing was easy. But just like anything out there, anyone can do it if they put in the time to learn how.

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4 minutes ago, ctruss53 said:

Posts like this are why I order from Iceman instead of you.

I never said 3D printing was easy. But just like anything out there, anyone can do it if they put in the time to learn how.

and I quote "Or I'll take some time and learn how to print. It can't be that hard. I just haven't taken the time to learn it." sorry my sarcasm was too much to handle. 

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9 minutes ago, Texas_3D_Customs said:

and I quote "Or I'll take some time and learn how to print. It can't be that hard. I just haven't taken the time to learn it." sorry my sarcasm was too much to handle. 

 

Where did I say it was easy?  You quoted me and still I never said it was easy.

And yes, anyone can learn how to do it. All it takes is time.

And here is another reason to buy from Iceman. You seem to lack the understanding that when you post on here you are representing your business. Insulting and trolling other members is only going to drive away business.

https://icemancollections.com/

 

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Yep you are right, but for the business I lost, you and perhaps a few others, there are a lot of people who will see that I am pretty straight up and I will accept that as representing my business. I would even go as far as to say people see me defending makers like Ron Olsen who choose to go the shapeways path even though it would be very easy for me to jump on your bandwagon, as a good thing. I am not the one bashing other peoples business and quite the opposite am defending the decision. You sir are the one who started a whole thread on putting down people and telling them how to run their business and then you bring it here when people point out a source for parts. Tell me I am wrong. 

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12 minutes ago, Texas_3D_Customs said:

Yep you are right, but for the business I lost, you and perhaps a few others, there are a lot of people who will see that I am pretty straight up and I will accept that as representing my business. I would even go as far as to say people see me defending makers like Ron Olsen who choose to go the shapeways path even though it would be very easy for me to jump on your bandwagon, as a good thing. I am not the one bashing other peoples business and quite the opposite am defending the decision. You sir are the one who started a whole thread on putting down people and telling them how to run their business and then you bring it here when people point out a source for parts. Tell me I am wrong. 

You are wrong. And you don't know when to stop.

Keep on digging.

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12 minutes ago, ctruss53 said:

You are wrong. And you don't know when to stop.

Keep on digging.

I will wait for someone other than you to weigh in on this, we can go back and forth and you will not listen to my reasons and while I admit I lost your business and I never made absolute statements that is all you.

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6 hours ago, Texas_3D_Customs said:

I will wait for someone other than you to weigh in on this.

Sorry to have brought up a sore subject. I ordered something from them a few years ago and just came across the box recently. Are you from the Dallas area? I was wondering if you sold at any shows or if you have an eBay presence?

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2 hours ago, oldcarfan said:

Sorry to have brought up a sore subject. I ordered something from them a few years ago and just came across the box recently. Are you from the Dallas area? I was wondering if you sold at any shows or if you have an eBay presence?

Yes up near Denton and yes I have an eBay store as well as my website.

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Okay look...

 

Chad, you're right. Shapeways is a more expensive option and is not for everyone. There are other ways to get parts for much less money.

However...

Charles is also right. People should be compensated for the time they put into designing a part, plus they need to recoup the costs of the equipment and programs they use to design their stuff. And then of course, people should be compensated for their time and equipment when it comes to physically printing a part. 

 

Designing parts is super easy for some people. They can crack out a design in less time than it took me to type this post. Others take a while. And what each of those people feel their time is worth is entirely up to them. There are designers that choose to make all of their designs free. And good for them. That's their decision. And there are designers that charge a premium. And good for them. That's their decision.

It's the same for printing. Some people will do it for the most basic of costs. Others will charge significantly more. And both are right. 

I've printed parts for others, and I'm not looking to make a buck. I just want to cover some bare costs. Mainly just the resin used, and shipping. I could probably add $5 or $10 to everything I print and make a little money. But this is not an income source for me. It's a hobby I do for fun, and I've printed for others because sometimes I just like helping people out.

For others, it's side business, or even their only business. As such, they need to make a living.

 

And the beauty of the system is that everyone has the ability to choose where they shop and who they buy from. If you feel Shapeways is too expensive, fair enough. I tend to agree, especially in light of what other sources charge for 3d printed parts. However I don't think there is anything shady or nefarious going on with Shapeways. And the people who sell there are not trying to scam people. That is the model they chose for the business, and it's popular, so it obviously works. No one is wrong for doing what fits their needs and their budget. Heck, look at the printing costs for the vendors suggested on Cults. On the design download page, they list a few companies that will print your files for you. Not cheap. but people need to decide for themselves if its worth it to them or not. And there's no wrong answer.

 

 

Everyone just needs to do what's right for them. Don't worry about what others are doing.

 

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2 hours ago, iamsuperdan said:

 

Okay look...

 

Chad, you're right. Shapeways is a more expensive option and is not for everyone. There are other ways to get parts for much less money.

However...

Charles is also right. People should be compensated for the time they put into designing a part, plus they need to recoup the costs of the equipment and programs they use to design their stuff. And then of course, people should be compensated for their time and equipment when it comes to physically printing a part. 

 

Designing parts is super easy for some people. They can crack out a design in less time than it took me to type this post. Others take a while. And what each of those people feel their time is worth is entirely up to them. There are designers that choose to make all of their designs free. And good for them. That's their decision. And there are designers that charge a premium. And good for them. That's their decision.

It's the same for printing. Some people will do it for the most basic of costs. Others will charge significantly more. And both are right. 

I've printed parts for others, and I'm not looking to make a buck. I just want to cover some bare costs. Mainly just the resin used, and shipping. I could probably add $5 or $10 to everything I print and make a little money. But this is not an income source for me. It's a hobby I do for fun, and I've printed for others because sometimes I just like helping people out.

For others, it's side business, or even their only business. As such, they need to make a living.

 

And the beauty of the system is that everyone has the ability to choose where they shop and who they buy from. If you feel Shapeways is too expensive, fair enough. I tend to agree, especially in light of what other sources charge for 3d printed parts. However I don't think there is anything shady or nefarious going on with Shapeways. And the people who sell there are not trying to scam people. That is the model they chose for the business, and it's popular, so it obviously works. No one is wrong for doing what fits their needs and their budget. Heck, look at the printing costs for the vendors suggested on Cults. On the design download page, they list a few companies that will print your files for you. Not cheap. but people need to decide for themselves if its worth it to them or not. And there's no wrong answer.

 

 

Everyone just needs to do what's right for them. Don't worry about what others are doing.

 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here. But the way people respond it's like you don't fully understand what I have said.

I am not trying to say people selling parts files on Shapeways should not be compensated. I understand there is time and effort involved in designing parts. I do it for a living.

And I am not saying Shapeways is a scam. But it is a horrible business model.

What I am saying is a part file should not cost the same as a printed part.

Example: If I go on Shapeways, a transmission part file is like $6. But I can buy the same transmission, already printed from Iceman for that same price. The part file should cost much less than the printed part because Shapeways does all the work of printing it out and they charge for their services. And since the designer is charging printed part prices for their file, and then Shapeways is charging for the printing, you basically pay twice. Then add in all the fees and you pay 3-4 times the price.

I don't understand where people are getting the idea that I think files on Shapeways should be free. I never said that. All I am trying to say is a part file should not be priced the same as an actual printed part from a place that sells parts.

I have explained this several times, and it is clear to me that nobody seems to understand. So I'll stop.

 

Ok, I'll give you an example of a great business model. Cults3D.

On Cults3D the higher quality files require payment. And if you look, the prices are reasonable.  Like I can get an engine file for a couple bucks, when it would cost $25 or so from a 3D parts seller. So I pay my $2-$5 for the file and then I have the file and can find a way to print it out. I could even go to Shapeways and have them print it out and pay all their fees. The point is I am paying a reasonable price for the file.

https://icemancollections.com/

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5 minutes ago, ctruss53 said:

Not trying to beat a dead horse here. But the way people respond it's like you don't fully understand what I have said.

I am not trying to say people selling parts files on Shapeways should not be compensated. I understand there is time and effort involved in designing parts. I do it for a living.

And I am not saying Shapeways is a scam. But it is a horrible business model.

What I am saying is a part file should not cost the same as a printed part.

Example: If I go on Shapeways, a transmission part file is like $6. But I can buy the same transmission, already printed from Iceman for that same price. The part file should cost much less than the printed part because Shapeways does all the work of printing it out and they charge for their services. And since the designer is charging printed part prices for their file, and then Shapeways is charging for the printing, you basically pay twice. Then add in all the fees and you pay 3-4 times the price.

I don't understand where people are getting the idea that I think files on Shapeways should be free. I never said that. All I am trying to say is a part file should not be priced the same as an actual printed part from a place that sells parts.

I have explained this several times, and it is clear to me that nobody seems to understand. So I'll stop.

 

Ok, I'll give you an example of a great business model. Cults3D.

On Cults3D the higher quality files require payment. And if you look, the fees are reasonable.  Like I can get an engine file for a couple bucks, when it would cost $25 or so from a 3D parts seller. So I pay my $2-$5 for the file and then I have the file and can find a way to print it out. I could even go to Shapeways and have them print it out and pay all their fees. The point is I am paying a reasonable price for the file.

https://icemancollections.com/

you dont seem to realise that many of the 3d print sellers use the same files you can buy on cults. thats a one time sale and not many business can survive on one sale. also the prices on cults mean nothing to the quality of the part. I've bought expensive files to find they were garbage but at the same time i have some great files that were free. think of the files like resin aftermarket, some resin kits are just expensive trash while some cheap resins are great. also you'll probably find those sellers of prints are paying a commission on sales to the designer too, i know i do it that way because i dont have the skills to do the 3d drawing but i can print out those files. How do i keep selling my prints if i dont pay the designer a commission? they will quit designing and how is anybody supposed to print without files? I've even paid commission on free files if i sell them because i want people to design stuff so i can keep making parts to sell. You're correct though, a parts file shouldn't cost the same as the part, they should cost a lot more than they do now

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15 hours ago, oldcarfan said:

Sorry to have brought up a sore subject. I ordered something from them a few years ago and just came across the box recently. Are you from the Dallas area? I was wondering if you sold at any shows or if you have an eBay presence?

And I am sorry I am so triggered by the Shapeways subject. It is a rip-off. I'll leave it there.

If you want a 3D part file, use Cults3D or Thingiverse to find them, and then either print the file yourself, or find a printing service. It will cost much less that way, and you can get your parts faster.

I will list off my favorite 3D parts sellers again, just to put everything in one post.

If you are specifically looking for Euro or JDM parts, your best options are:

White Chocolate - limited selection, but they cater to euro and JDM almost exclusively
Scale Stars - pretty good selection of transkits, and wheels. And they do mostly JDM stuff
Street Blisters - Limited selection, mainly JDM stuff
ZoomOn - this company does a lot of JDM transkits and full kits. Plus they have parts and wheels

Now if you are looking for mainstream 3D printed parts like engines, transmissions, chassis, and suspensions. Here are my top picks:

Iceman - he is great. tons of parts to choose from, and he is always adding new things. I check his website out first for anything 3D printed.  He is also on ebay.
Juan4you on ebay - He is a great seller. He has great selection. And he has a few things that not everyone has. I frequently buy from him.

And then search ebay for things you are having trouble finding. There are tons of 3D printed parts on ebay, including 1:18 scale diecast parts sellers. And if you find something but it is the wrong scale you can contact them and ask them to print it out in the scale you need. Most of the time they will do it.

I hope this helps.

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10 minutes ago, stitchdup said:

You're correct though, a parts file shouldn't cost the same as the part, they should cost a lot more than they do now

What?

A parts file should cost more than a part? You can't be serious.

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1 hour ago, stitchdup said:

you dont seem to realise that many of the 3d print sellers use the same files you can buy on cults. thats a one time sale and not many business can survive on one sale. also the prices on cults mean nothing to the quality of the part. I've bought expensive files to find they were garbage but at the same time i have some great files that were free. think of the files like resin aftermarket, some resin kits are just expensive trash while some cheap resins are great. also you'll probably find those sellers of prints are paying a commission on sales to the designer too, i know i do it that way because i dont have the skills to do the 3d drawing but i can print out those files. How do i keep selling my prints if i dont pay the designer a commission? they will quit designing and how is anybody supposed to print without files? I've even paid commission on free files if i sell them because i want people to design stuff so i can keep making parts to sell. You're correct though, a parts file shouldn't cost the same as the part, they should cost a lot more than they do now

Great points.

Although anybody can learn to 3d print or create 3d files that doesn't mean that everyone is going to necessarily going to do it really well. That applies to a lot of things.

And yes if those who create 3d files don't get a reasonable return there is no incentive to do it.

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