Straightliner59 Posted January 8 Author Posted January 8 Well, that's done! I like the water filler neck. I stretched some bendable plastic rod, then bent it, after it cooled. I think it's a good shape, and it fits where it's supposed to! It would probably be better, mounted in a higher position on the engine, but, it has to be somewhere the water jacket penetrates the block, so, this'll do! Thanks to Muncie, for pointing out an error, to me! It's much appreciated. The manifold's installed, as well. On to the mag! Thanks for looking! 1
David G. Posted January 8 Posted January 8 So much detail! More than one often sees in 1:12 and larger scale models. David G.
Pierre Rivard Posted January 8 Posted January 8 So much to learn here (I know nothing about drag racing), so there is no external radiator on these because they run for such a short time. Is there still a water pump to move coolant internally to spread the thermal loads? Everything looks fabulous btw
dwc43 Posted January 8 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Pierre Rivard said: So much to learn here (I know nothing about drag racing), so there is no external radiator on these because they run for such a short time. Is there still a water pump to move coolant internally to spread the thermal loads? Everything looks fabulous btw No water pump. The camshaft runs the fuel pump mounted on the front cover, so there is no place to put a water pump. When hp gets high enough or you get into supercharged engines on nitromethane they run a solid or filled block to make it stiffer, so it won't deflect under power. Only water is in the heads. Also take into account that the amount of alcohol or nitromethane that flows through the intake and heads also helps to reduce the heat in the engine. This car only has 8 injectors, but look at supercharged engines on nitro, they have at least 16 injectors if not more.Β 1
Straightliner59 Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 17 hours ago, David G. said: So much detail! More than one often sees in 1:12 and larger scale models. David G. I appreciate that, David! I never messed around much with large scale, because...well, I know me! It would likely get pretty nuts!πΒ 16 hours ago, Pierre Rivard said: So much to learn here (I know nothing about drag racing), so there is no external radiator on these because they run for such a short time. Is there still a water pump to move coolant internally to spread the thermal loads? Everything looks fabulous btw First off, thank you, very kindly, Pierre! As D.W. said, many of them didn't have any kind of cooling system. Especially in the Altered, Dragster and Funny Car classes. Mostly, they'd fill the water jacket, and give the water a place to expand to, as it heated (the canteen, here.). I recall seeing quite a few of them with draincocks, just above the oil pan rail, one on each side of the engine. Generally, they're not running for more than about a minute at any given time. In this instance, I simply mounted the filler neck to the hole where the water pump would attach to the front of the block. The other water port is simply blocked off by the bracket that mounts the canteen. The two lines that feed the canteen are the expansion lines that drain from the ports where the water crossover, and upper radiator hose and t-stat would be, on a stock-type system.Β 15 hours ago, dwc43 said: No water pump. The camshaft runs the fuel pump mounted on the front cover, so there is no place to put a water pump. When hp gets high enough or you get into supercharged engines on nitromethane they run a solid or filled block to make it stiffer, so it won't deflect under power. Only water is in the heads. Also take into account that the amount of alcohol or nitromethane that flows through the intake and heads also helps to reduce the heat in the engine. This car only has 8 injectors, but look at supercharged engines on nitro, they have at least 16 injectors if not more.Β Modern "big show" fuel cars run (I'm pretty sure) 32 injectors! Eight each to the hat, and manifold, and two down nozzles per cylinder, in the heads. It's insane! Modern Nostalgia Top Fuel cars run 16. Eight each to the hat and manifold. Down nozzles are not allowed in N/TF.Β 1
Straightliner59 Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 I've started working on the Cirello mag. I will make a new, lower-profile cap. Still a detail or two, to add, and some shaping. 2
Straightliner59 Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 18 hours ago, David G. said: Cool! =D- Thank you, sir! I'm in the process of making new mag caps--well, I'm to the point of cleaning them up. They're cast from nail resin, with lugs/teats of old Bell phone wire insulation. Here's a link to a tutorial I did on making them. It's cheap and easier than drilling holes in a 1/25 mag/distributor cap! Here are a couple of photos of what I have going on, now. One thing I will say for these--they're durable! I've never had one of the bits of insulation come free, even with rough handling. I was hoping for better photos of the mag, as well. Also, I've included a photo of what I'm going for a reasonable facsimile of. Anyhoo...Thanks for looking!
Straightliner59 Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 Here are the castings, and, finally, I think, better photos of the mag. 1
BK9300 Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Iβll say it again - youβre a brute for punishment! Β So many parts in a very small space - great job.
Pierre Rivard Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Looks just like the full size mag. Excellent replica. This build keeps adding more eye candy.
Straightliner59 Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 33 minutes ago, BK9300 said: Iβll say it again - youβre a brute for punishment! Β So many parts in a very small space - great job. Thanks, Brian! I just love making this stuff! I'll start doing something, and forget to eat for hours. I might be a little nuts, but, it's fun!π 3 minutes ago, Pierre Rivard said: Looks just like the full size mag. Excellent replica. This build keeps adding more eye candy. Thank you, kindly, Pierre! Hey! I gotta' keep up with that Mercedes!π
Straightliner59 Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 From where we were, this morning, we've come to this! It's easily the most detailed mag I've ever built. The cast-appearing body and the sorta shiny cap were both shot from the same can of paint--Krylon Satin Black. It's a nice contrast of textures, I think. I made the Cirello tags a few years ago, for my Junior Fueler. I already had them applied to aluminum duct tape, so all I had to do was cut one out, and stick it in place. The cap hold downs are just folded tooling aluminum. It's not cemented into place yet, but will be, as soon as I figure out where I want to mount the ground wire. The red wire will exit through the firewall. I couldn't find a schematic that showed specific colors for the wiring, so I went standard red/black. The coil wire isn't cemented in, yet, either, as it will be easier to wire the plugs, first. Next will be making 90-degree wire boots. They're labor-intensive and can often be frustrating. They're worth it!π Actually, those will probably be second on the list. First, since I've already dirtied my balls, I will probably install them. Yes, there will be pictures!π As always, questions, critiques, and comments (even smart-alecky ones) are always welcomed. Thanks for looking! 2
Straightliner59 Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 I had hoped to get a little farther along with this, but, we had some arguments, along the way. I have four cylinders hooked up. Once these are finished (I see a bit of touchup I need to do, on the cap), I am pretty sure I can install the stacks! I got the tennis balls inserted into the stacks. I used Alene's tacky glue, for easy cleanup, in case. I'm about to doze off, so I'll try to remember to elaborate on the boots, after work. Thanks for looking! 2
David G. Posted January 12 Posted January 12 There are those who say: "When building a model, each part is a model unto itself."Β Nobody exemplifies this more than you Daniel. With the level of detail you create, each little part you build is truly a model unto itself. David G. 1
Straightliner59 Posted January 13 Author Posted January 13 16 hours ago, David G. said: There are those who say: "When building a model, each part is a model unto itself."Β Nobody exemplifies this more than you Daniel. With the level of detail you create, each little part you build is truly a model unto itself. David G. That's what I strive for. Most of the guys in modeling I have "hung out" with (some are online friends) espouse that philosophy. The guy who first got me interested in this stuff told me that, too. He probably hasn't touched a model in 50 years, but his advice stuck with me. Without scratchbuilding, I think I would be bored with modeling. I mostly started scratchbuilding, because I simply found it more enjoyable than scraping and sanding mold lines, etc. Your kind words are always appreciated, my friend! I am very happy with the way this mag turned out!
AmericanMuscleFan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Gorgeous job on the mag Daniel, the sum of all those superb hand build parts will create another masterpiece! Your dedication to this and previous builds is a great example of what determination can produce! π 1
Straightliner59 Posted January 14 Author Posted January 14 45 minutes ago, AmericanMuscleFan said: Gorgeous job on the mag Daniel, the sum of all those superb hand build parts will create another masterpiece! Your dedication to this and previous builds is a great example of what determination can produce! π I thank you, my friend! I think you just might know a thing or two about determination, yourself! 1
Straightliner59 Posted January 14 Author Posted January 14 The plug wire chronicles: I wanted to use orange plug wires on this car. The first wire I had planned to use was a fair amount smaller than the wire that's on the model. Unfortunately, it was highly glossy, and glue wouldn't stick to it. No problem, I have some old MSC orange plug wire, which I installed into the spark plug holes, using grey wire insulation as boots. So far, so good. Once I installed the mag, and was ready to start making the boots, I discovered that the insulation on this orange wire makes it a couple of thousandths thicker than MSC's other plug wire material. That small added thickness made my normal method of making boots unusable. I remembered a friend of mine who used built up paint to create 90-degree boots for a Monogram Cobra. I always thought it looked pretty good, so, in place of built up layers of paint, I applied small "dablets" of UV-activated glue to 90-degree bends in the wire. Once they were built up, I painted them with Humbrol British Equipment Grey. I applied the boots as I installed each plug wire. It's not what I was planning on, and it's not quite as nice, but it looks okay, and the mag's not out in the open, anyway. These wires were very stiff, and difficult to work with, too. I wish they were better, but, they're not as bad as they might have been.Β π Once the plug wires were connected to their correct terminals, it was time to add a little color to the fun! I installed my whimsically-colored injector stacks, with their protective plugs. I have some time to consider whether or not I'm finished with the chassis and engine assembly while I get some work done to the body. I think it may have a slight twist up, at the front left. It's not a lot, and the body-to-chassis mounting is about as sturdy as it could get, so that may be enough to pull it out. I'm looking forward to getting paint, and my decals on this thing! I'm getting excited! Comments, questions and critiques are always welcomed. Thanks for looking! P.S. I've since added the tether cord to the tennis balls. 1
Scott8950 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Wow! Where does one start? Every time i look i find something new. Amazing details, it looks like you could jump in it and fire it up! Awesome job π― 1
Pierre Rivard Posted January 14 Posted January 14 The engine looks wonderful. All the detailing looks very much a scaled down version of the real thing. I love the bright colors on the injector stacks and the tennis balls, giving such a cool go-go sixties vibe to the model. Perhaps a touch of gay glo yellow to the balls to make them pop more, if it's not too late? Looks like the chassis and engine are all done, so time to apply your magic to the body!
BK9300 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Your engine looks spectacular, Daniel - canβt imagine, fully, how difficult it must have been to loop your tether cord through each eyelet!
AmericanMuscleFan Posted January 14 Posted January 14 What else can I say, everything falls into place with each update and the sum of all these good moves will surely create another masterpiece! π
Straightliner59 Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 17 hours ago, Scott8950 said: Wow! Where does one start? Every time i look i find something new. Amazing details, it looks like you could jump in it and fire it up! Awesome job π― Thanks, Scott! I appreciate that! I'm glad you're finding new stuff, each time, you look. I've always enjoyed people's models that are that way. I have always found that "interesting" for lack of a better word. Thanks again! Β 17 hours ago, Pierre Rivard said: The engine looks wonderful. All the detailing looks very much a scaled down version of the real thing. I love the bright colors on the injector stacks and the tennis balls, giving such a cool go-go sixties vibe to the model. Perhaps a touch of gay glo yellow to the balls to make them pop more, if it's not too late? Looks like the chassis and engine are all done, so time to apply your magic to the body! Thank you, my friend! It's definitely important to at least attempt to keep things as close to scale, as possible. When they aren't, things can look cluttered, I think. Funnily, enough, the balls are bright yellow. They were quilting pins that I turned down. I debated leaving them as they were, because the finish looks very similar to a scale tennis ball--dull, and almost fuzzy-looking. Ultimately, I decided that they wouldn't stay bright yellow, for very long, hanging around pit areas, so I rubbed some pastels on them. And, you are correct, I am beginning the bodywork! I've re-scribed the door lines, and started getting the mold lines cleaned up. I need to do some research on the mouldings for the windshield and backlight, because they are very faint, on the model. Thank you for your kind words, my friend, and thanks for following along! 14 hours ago, AmericanMuscleFan said: What else can I say, everything falls into place with each update and the sum of all these good moves will surely create another masterpiece! π Thank you, my friend! I'm pretty excited! I'm really looking forward to seeing it in paint!
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