LennyB Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 13 hours ago, customline said: I really like the ragtop, Len. The way he placed the trim for the color break. Two-toning is a very good way to disguise the great expanse. I feel a decision coming on this. 😏 yeah. Edit: hey Len, I asked Wifey if she had a French curve template. She said "What's that?". I told her and she leaves the room and returns with a book of all sorts of curves and circles and templates of just about anything and everything...well anyway, you get the idea. Buick trim should be easy enough, huh? You mean your wife answers you, I just get snoring..... That trim kinda reminds me of the 57 Del Rio I'm working on except the dip is a bit more pronounced, a lot more pronounced. Works good with the two tone and the rear section looks like it right in line with the current trim so you may just need to fab the front section. 🤔 Just no portholes please. Unless you build a Buick
customline Posted December 16, 2024 Author Posted December 16, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, LennyB said: You mean your wife answers you, I just get snoring..... That trim kinda reminds me of the 57 Del Rio I'm working on except the dip is a bit more pronounced, a lot more pronounced. Works good with the two tone and the rear section looks like it right in line with the current trim so you may just need to fab the front section. 🤔 Just no portholes please. Unless you build a Buick Snoring you say? You have no idea 😴. If there was a Nobel prize for snoring.... Hey, you are the side trim guru now, Len, so I'm thinking I can use some sheet say, .020, and I have .030 triangular and I just ordered some .040 triang. One or the other should work. That combo would give me a good guide for my blade when trimming foil Right? 🙂....with some very delicate molding work under high magnification. Easy peasy 😅 The full trim on a '52 Buick would also include a run on the rocker, but the ragtop example didn't use it. It's pretty dramatic 🤩 Edited December 16, 2024 by customline
LennyB Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 19 minutes ago, customline said: Snoring you say? You have no idea 😴. If there was a Nobel prize for snoring.... Hey, you are the side trim guru now, Len, so I'm thinking I can use some sheet say, .020, and I have .030 triangular and I just ordered some .040 triang. One or the other should work. That combo would give me a good guide for my blade when trimming foil Right? 🙂....with some very delicate molding work under high magnification. Easy peasy 😅 The full trim on a '52 Buick would also include a run on the rocker, but the ragtop example didn't use it. It's pretty dramatic 🤩 Sounds like it would work to me. I would lay some masking tape on the body and draw out the trim. Then transfer that to the .020 sheet. Then I would glue the triangle on to the sheet before putting it on the body. I think the .030 would be fine, .040 might be too big. And I know you like CA but I would use Tamiya Extyra thin on it.
customline Posted December 16, 2024 Author Posted December 16, 2024 3 hours ago, LennyB said: Sounds like it would work to me. I would lay some masking tape on the body and draw out the trim. Then transfer that to the .020 sheet. Then I would glue the triangle on to the sheet before putting it on the body. I think the .030 would be fine, .040 might be too big. And I know you like CA but I would use Tamiya Extyra thin on it. Getting the curve right is tricky, Len. I've been trying to make a template on paper. I think I'll try your suggestion with tape on the body. Thanks for hangin' 🤓
LennyB Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 2 hours ago, customline said: Getting the curve right is tricky, Len. I've been trying to make a template on paper. I think I'll try your suggestion with tape on the body. Thanks for hangin' 🤓 Tape on the body. As the body is curved it will change it's shape if you first draw it out on a flat surface.
customline Posted December 17, 2024 Author Posted December 17, 2024 27 minutes ago, LennyB said: Tape on the body. As the body is curved it will change it's shape if you first draw it out on a flat surface. Yeah, I sorta had a kinda half-baked notion that could be the case 🤤
customline Posted December 17, 2024 Author Posted December 17, 2024 On 12/16/2024 at 1:34 AM, Starwulf said: Personally, number 1 seems a natural fit with 4 a very close second. One accentuates the overall shape while 4 works with it. On 12/16/2024 at 8:07 AM, NOBLNG said: I think it looks great the way it is.😎 Gentlemen, thank you all for your interest and advice on this side trim issue. After much consideration, I have decided to just keep what's there. The winner is #1 - stock location! Lenny spent a lot of time trying to help me and I really appreciate it but after all of that, I feel the original trim is just fine. It's clean and it divides the sheet metal into very acceptable proportions. The amount of body below the trim is approximately equal to the greenhouse height. To my eye, it makes sense. I need to concentrate on the tail light mod; it still needs work and I'm not happy with it yet. Thinking about another project is distracting me now so I need to get this one in paintable condition. None of the advice and comments received is wasted. It made me think. 2
LennyB Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 3 hours ago, customline said: Gentlemen, thank you all for your interest and advice on this side trim issue. After much consideration, I have decided to just keep what's there. The winner is #1 - stock location! Lenny spent a lot of time trying to help me and I really appreciate it but after all of that, I feel the original trim is just fine. It's clean and it divides the sheet metal into very acceptable proportions. The amount of body below the trim is approximately equal to the greenhouse height. To my eye, it makes sense. I need to concentrate on the tail light mod; it still needs work and I'm not happy with it yet. Thinking about another project is distracting me now so I need to get this one in paintable condition. None of the advice and comments received is wasted. It made me think.
customline Posted December 17, 2024 Author Posted December 17, 2024 32 minutes ago, LennyB said: Sometimes that's hard to do, Len. Especially for Poo 💩
customline Posted December 18, 2024 Author Posted December 18, 2024 So yes, I have been thinking, and that can go either way for me. Sometimes for the better but that's a matter of opinion. After looking at every shoebox lead-sled Bing could show me, it became apparent that bumpers are quite prevalent and most make a statement. I decided to try it. Here's what I have so far. Close enough. I have others that might be more suitable but they all have bumperettes and this one is clean and shaved. For the rear I needed something that would look like it belonged there. I found it. It's from the Del Rey kit. I cut it and spliced it with a piece of half- round and it will be bent to conform better to the rolled pan contour and then treated to some thick CA in the middle. Then I can fill and smooth it..... all that. Maybe spring for a can of Revell chrome. I'll need to tweak the ends a bit too. Overall, I think the 'niner will look better with bumpers - more complete. WDYT? 2
David G. Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 I like the side spear Jim! The new grille looks good too, it's cleaner. Though I do miss the gold tooth. The bumpers, they'll work. They certainly follow the body cues and reinforce the design scheme. Keep up the good work! David G.
customline Posted December 18, 2024 Author Posted December 18, 2024 6 hours ago, Starwulf said: Looking good, dude. Keep it up 👍 Thanks, Eric, I shall. 1 hour ago, David G. said: I like the side spear Jim! The new grille looks good too, it's cleaner. Though I do miss the gold tooth. The bumpers, they'll work. They certainly follow the body cues and reinforce the design scheme. Keep up the good work! David G. Yeah, sorry about the gold tooth, Dave. Actually, I'm still not sure about a grille yet. It's an important element that establishes an attitude. The '52 Desoto may be the one after all is said and done. It plays well with the radical chop and lends balance to that new bumper in the rear. Maybe I should go through my bumper stash again and find something a tad heavier for the front? 🤔....
LennyB Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 I'm on board with the bumpers, especially the back. It cleans up the expanse of sheet metal below the trunk👍
customline Posted December 18, 2024 Author Posted December 18, 2024 49 minutes ago, LennyB said: I'm on board with the bumpers, especially the back. It cleans up the expanse of sheet metal below the trunk👍 Yeah, I had to stand back and really look. This old girl has a skinny butt. The "fusilage" tapers to the rear for, I imagine, improved air flow 🥴. It needed some balance back there and, well, I needed an excuse to spend $35 for a can of spray paint.
LennyB Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, customline said: Yeah, I had to stand back and really look. This old girl has a skinny butt. The "fusilage" tapers to the rear for, I imagine, improved air flow 🥴. It needed some balance back there and, well, I needed an excuse to spend $35 for a can of spray paint. Yeah, Ol' Henry did an aerodynamics study on these before he left this earth using a wind tunnel borrower from the Wright Brothers ✈. He keeps it at Greenfield Village.
customline Posted December 18, 2024 Author Posted December 18, 2024 52 minutes ago, LennyB said: Yeah, Ol' Henry did an aerodynamics study on these before he left this earth using a wind tunnel borrower from the Wright Brothers ✈. He keeps it at Greenfield Village. He was certainly enamored with aircraft design.
espo Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 I sort of liked the roll pan look, but in reality, bumpers could save some body work in the real world. Tucking the bumpers in close to the body will look good as well. Do what you think looks best.
Jimmy.J Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 She's lookin' real mean! I plan on attempting my first chop with "The 49'er" kit.
customline Posted December 18, 2024 Author Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, espo said: I sort of liked the roll pan look, but in reality, bumpers could save some body work in the real world. Tucking the bumpers in close to the body will look good as well. Do what you think looks best. That's how I spent my afternoon, David, on that Del Rey bumper. I'm matching it to the sheet metal and matching the sheet metal to the bumper. I'll have a few pix soon. I have something for the front also. Your input is appreciated, Dave. 1
rattle can man Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 Shoe boxes really need side trim and bumpers. Otherwise they just look slab sided.
customline Posted December 19, 2024 Author Posted December 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Jimmy.J said: She's lookin' real mean! I plan on attempting my first chop with "The 49'er" kit. I wouldn't recommend that, Jimmy. You certainly should not do what I did with this one. For a first chop, if you want something let's say...a bit advanced but not too difficult, I would try a '50s pickup like the '50 F-1 or maybe a Cameo. And don't go radical. Keep it reasonable. The '49er is do-able if you keep it mild and leave it a coupe. I stretched mine to look like a tudor and it was a train wreck.
customline Posted December 19, 2024 Author Posted December 19, 2024 1 hour ago, rattle can man said: Shoe boxes really need side trim and bumpers. Otherwise they just look slab sided. Yup. You are among the many, Harry.
customline Posted December 19, 2024 Author Posted December 19, 2024 Since the side trim thing is resolved and chiseled in stone (well, okay, plastic), the efforts have been focused on b-b-b-bumpers 🥴. There's not much to work with. This is everything, although I may revisit the '54 DeSoto option (the holes are drilled if I change my mind).👇 Below is about three hours work resulting in a somewhat rough rear bumper and a nice neck ache. The Del Rey bumper is 1:24 scale and a little large so the ends have been closed up a bit. It will be installed upside-down, close to the body using brass rod inserted, hopefully, into the chassis. However, I remembered I had leftover parts from a previous build of a custom '53 that did not use the stock bumpers. I plan to modify it so as to eliminate the bumperettes while narrowing it. Less is more 🙂 And now I have some choices for grille and bumper combos. What to do, what to do ☹ Maybe I can bring back that '54 Desoto unit. We shall see. Thanks for looking in!
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