935k3 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) Of the American Lemans series. Does NASCAR have to own and destroy everything that goes before it. They have already forced SPEED to stop carrying the races. http://www.motorspor...dnesday-425708/ Edited September 5, 2012 by 935k3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miatatom Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Yes, it is the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunc Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Those darned greedy nascar peeps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Oh probably, NASCAR knows it killed the Cup/Nationwide/truck series and those will soon be dead, they need another series to keep queen Brian France in the money. Its also the end of SPEED channel as well, its going to be some sad times for us motorsports fans over the next few years But least now the stock in NASCAR means something for the first time in 30-40 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggon Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Good lord, what the heck happend to IMSA and the creativity? I think we all know the end result if "NASTYCAR" takes over. I get it that they are fan based, but for real car guys, the diversity and creativity makes the show. I went to the Can-Ams at Laguna seca for years, and it was all about the creativity, and the driver skills. I watched John Cannon win with an outdated car in the rain,Bruce and Denny battle it out, Peter Revson crash with a dominant car, the insane Chaparral 2J, and the epic fail of the 2H. If nascar has a sick hand in all of this, the only things we'll see is different "wraps". I do not like wraps, I prefer sprayed on paint with hand lettering. But Im prejudiced, I owned a sign shop before signs became just vinyl decals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 the only things we'll see is different "wraps". I do not like wraps, I prefer sprayed on paint with hand lettering. But Im prejudiced, I owned a sign shop before signs became just vinyl decals. They are several plus's for using wraps, and wraps are becoming very popular outside the racing world, but one, wraps weigh a lot less then paint does, and weight and speed are like oil and water, its cheaper to wrap a car then paint it. And in this new era of racing where teams have more then one primary sponsor , it make's sense. Heck, even police dept's are using wraps now to help the resale value You do know that wraping a race car is not just limited to NASCAR right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenrat Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 ...weight and speed are like oil and water... Use enough power and you'll get them to mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychographic Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 They are several plus's for using wraps, and wraps are becoming very popular outside the racing world, but one, wraps weigh a lot less then paint does, and weight and speed are like oil and water, its cheaper to wrap a car then paint it. And in this new era of racing where teams have more then one primary sponsor , it make's sense. Heck, even police dept's are using wraps now to help the resale value You do know that wraping a race car is not just limited to NASCAR right? Being a fellow sign painter, I understand Glenn's statement. The average person would never understand how hideous wraps are to guys like us. Sign programs have ruined the sign industry as badly as the France family has ruined Nascar. Do wraps have a place and purpose, absolutely. Are about 90% of them poorly to very poorly designed, absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Why is speed channel not carrying nacscar races anymore.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad4321 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I don't see where the bad news is here. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 If NASCAR has a hand in it,you can count on it being the end. They will ruin it just like they have ruined NASCAR. The only thing that will be left for us to watch will be the Australian V-8 Supercars. Those guys have it right! Hopefully, they will never allow the France enterprise nowhere near them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Not the end. A merger and restructuring. http://www.motorsport.com/grandam/news/grand-am-and-alms-series-officially-announce-historic-merger-in-daytona/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george 53 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I'd rather watch the Auzzies race. They KNOW what REAL raceing is about! Thank God there's no one as money hungry as the Franks running THEIR race scene! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
935k3 Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 With NASCAR in control what we will get is what they already give us, slow and boring racecars. The LMP1 class will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
935k3 Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 I don't see where the bad news is here. ?? Of course you don't you are a NASCAR fan not a sportscar fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad4321 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Of course you don't you are a NASCAR fan not a sportscar fan. You have no idea what I like and don't like. I like many forms of motorsport and Nascar is not my favorite of them. I've been thinking for some time that a merger would be great to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Good lord, what the heck happend to IMSA and the creativity? I think we all know the end result if "NASTYCAR" takes over. I get it that they are fan based, but for real car guys, the diversity and creativity makes the show. I went to the Can-Ams at Laguna seca for years, and it was all about the creativity, and the driver skills. I watched John Cannon win with an outdated car in the rain,Bruce and Denny battle it out, Peter Revson crash with a dominant car, the insane Chaparral 2J, and the epic fail of the 2H. If nascar has a sick hand in all of this, the only things we'll see is different "wraps". I do not like wraps, I prefer sprayed on paint with hand lettering. But Im prejudiced, I owned a sign shop before signs became just vinyl decals. Being a fellow sign painter, I understand Glenn's statement. The average person would never understand how hideous wraps are to guys like us. Sign programs have ruined the sign industry as badly as the France family has ruined Nascar. Do wraps have a place and purpose, absolutely. Are about 90% of them poorly to very poorly designed, absolutely. Gah, I'm not a sign painter, But I still agree with you two 110%! I hate those stickers with a passion too, they just look horrible! Saw a rebodied Fiero that would have looked good if it were painted and not wrapped (especially like that, Steie Wonder could have chosen better graphics) and that dang wrap ruined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2002p51 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Such doom and gloom! Geez, go build a model and cheer up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) Why is speed channel not carrying nacscar races anymore.??? The Speed channel still airs NASCAR race's the air all the Camping world truck series race's and the air the Gatorade duels and the All Star race Edited September 5, 2012 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit1 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Geez guys/galz!...Go back to building models!...not bickering over stupid stuff! Nascar use to be (for most of us that remember) the following Nascar Winston Cup....till Winston pulled it do to financial matters based from the tobacco news we all remember! Nascar Bush Grand National....till Anhauser bush pulled or expired the contract ...for some reason or another.... Nascar Craftsman Trucks....Craftsman as we known to be made in America....till they shipped jobs over seas and we see that stuff "Made in China" now....they pulled i think due to financial reasons to (correct me if im wrong) SO STOP THE BICKERING!....times have changed ...what worked 5 years ago does not work today in today's market!...so things must change to stay up to date....and if that means le mans and (cant remember who else) that has to merge then yes it has to happen....who knows it may be alot better now then it use to be?...why dont you give it a chance before you start slamming things?....GET BACK TO BUILDING NUMBNUTS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Geez guys/galz!...Go back to building models!...not bickering over stupid stuff! Nascar use to be (for most of us that remember) the following Nascar Winston Cup....till Winston pulled it do to financial matters based from the tobacco news we all remember! Nascar Bush Grand National....till Anhauser bush pulled or expired the contract ...for some reason or another.... Nascar Craftsman Trucks....Craftsman as we known to be made in America....till they shipped jobs over seas and we see that stuff "Made in China" now....they pulled i think due to financial reasons to (correct me if im wrong) SO STOP THE BICKERING!....times have changed ...what worked 5 years ago does not work today in today's market!...so things must change to stay up to date....and if that means le mans and (cant remember who else) that has to merge then yes it has to happen....who knows it may be alot better now then it use to be?...why dont you give it a chance before you start slamming things?....GET BACK TO BUILDING NUMBNUTS! Agreed, but some people love to complain and whine about things. I really dont think the Rolex series has changed all that much, but I am not a die hard follower so I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggon Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Hey Joe, I appreciate the understanding. Some of us are old school, and also I am grumpy, and resist change at every possible opportunity! That might explain my affinity for Trophy Series kits and wire axles I guess in a new millenium, the good old days of the "Car of Tomorrow" , IRL with "power to pass", and F-1 with treaded tires will be remembered fondly. I can picture it in my mind...."Hey Fred, do ya remember when Sprint ditched NASCAR, and it became the "Hello Kitty-Shanghai Maple-Bank of China Cup? And when Bill France XVlll mandated front wheel drive and 50 mpg?" :lol: ( tongue in cheek ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) It will be interesting to see what happens... I follow both series today..the TV coverage could stand to improve. I'd like to go to one of the big 12- or 24- events, but need to train to get in shape for it...going to 2-3 hour races is exhausting enough. I try and follow Nationwide, NASCAR, F1, Indy Car, Grand Am, and ALMS....I've loosely followed V8 Supercars, WRC, DTM and World Tour Cars but the US TV coverage is nonexistent or very weak for those series.. I've managed to go to 4 races so far this year (NASCAR here in Phoenix, Indy Car at Long Beach, Indianapolis, and Sonoma) and have 2 more to go this year (Indy Car at Fontana, NASCAR at Phoenix again). I hope to get in F1, and a Grand Am or ALMS race next year. Edited September 5, 2012 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggon Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I'm with ya Rob. I reluctantly admit to watching NASCAR, but I prefer Nationwide. I like to see the little guys do good. And those 2+ hour can ams at laguna seca always wiped me out. Too much excitement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Doan Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I too miss the innovation of the Can-Am and 60's and 70's Indy. Just wait till these series become all-electric cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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