W-409 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I can't explain it either, but I'd rather restore an old glue bomb--especially a rare or long OOP one--than build the finest new kit on the market. "New" copies of this kit are readily available, yet "rescuing" an old original is still just so much more satisfying! I can't explain it either, but that is true! (Even though there are a couple of exceptions). Working with old plastic is just so much more fun! Great to see the paint is starting to come off really nicely on the body and that your engine is coming apart. Removing that old glue can be a pain to do, but the end result is always worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Niko, what have you used to get really stuck on parts off? Or, does it just get down to scraping long enough with a utility knife to pry them off without breakage? I've really had no problems with parts coming off until I got to the engine block/heads. Update: The wheels/tires are now soaking in LA's Totally Awsome. (I even tried HEET, yes the stuff you put in your gas tank. It's actually some kind of really strong alcohol, did no better than the rubbing alcohol). If that doesn't get the paint off I'll just use it as a base coat. Was really hoping to get it off so I could redo the lettering on the slicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Was really hoping to get it off so I could redo the lettering on the slicks. Heck, that's no big deal. Paint 'em whatever black you want, then just sand or scrape the tops of the letters to let the white show through. Perfect lettering every time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Right, but , whoever built this car sanded them down pretty far, so , without removing the paint I don't think (?) there's enough of the letters left to paint over again. No biggy, I just trashed the engine block there was just TOOOOOOOOOOOO much glue. You know that little bulb that comes off the back of the block that the scatter shield/engine mount fits over? I kept scraping, and , scraping, and , scraping, and , scraping,.............. thinking I was just cutting through the mount piece, well in fact I was cutting through the bulb, because there was just so much glue that it had become one piece. Same thing with one of the heads. That's ok, if I just loose the block/engine mount, (all the chrome came off with no damage), and the tires and wheels, (the wheels were really toast anyway, I just didn't want to see it), I'm ok with that. I have those same front tires from a Chevy II ' Rat Packer ' kit that I wasn't going to use, and , I have the Parts Pack Racemasters if I can'rt make the slicks work. The wheels might be a bit more difficult; the front wheels appear to be the same as those on the '33 Willy's Van, which I have, the rear's however look the same as those on the Willy's Van, but , have '5' slots to the Van's '4, I will have to find some with 5. that's about it, everything else is still soaking in the Super Clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Paint is coming off the body but you could not get the block apart? Everything else ok?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Yes Carl, the paint is coming off, later today I'll pull everything out and scrub it with Comet, that should get most if not all of the paint off. The block came apart but not in a way that it could be salvaged . Everything else seems ok, at this point, but, there are still several things that need to be disassembled, (front-end, interior etc,..). So, I'm going to get a HUG kit for back-up. I think I'll take a picture of the block/engine mount today so people can see just how it ended up, it's not pretty, but , informative. Thanks for asking Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Niko, what have you used to get really stuck on parts off? Or, does it just get down to scraping long enough with a utility knife to pry them off without breakage? I've really had no problems with parts coming off until I got to the engine block/heads. I've only used a flat screwdriver (A small one), to pull the parts apart if I can fit it between the parts. If not, I try with a hobby knife. Some paint stripping liquids can also work on glues, but don't know if they affect on this old glue. If nothing else helps, I use a saw to cut the parts apart. Depending on the situation and what the part is, I will use either a razor saw or a photo etch saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Thanks for the info, I need to get a photo etch saw, and , a razor saw shaped like a #11 utility blade. They have a photo ecth blade at my LHS, but , it's like $14 or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 Here's where things are with the Barracuda; I've decided to try and work with the block, it will be a challange, but , I think I can make it work if I just take my time, I'll give it my best shot, I just can't abandon the engine! Here's what it looks like, yikes!: Tires/wheels and interior pieces: The body, interior tub,chassis, and rear end: This one shows the front suspension: The under body: Everythings going back into a fresh bath of Super Clean. Hopefully using the Comet will give it some more traction into the remaining paint. It looks awful right now, but , that will change. Thanks for looking and offering suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w451973 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 That block and heads, thats nothing a little sanding can't fix. I've saved worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Nice work Gene. Paint was stronger back then I am sure. If I get lots of paint in my purple bath I change it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Ya, it's in a fresh bath right now. Weird, the black paint on everything, (and there was LOTS of it), BUT , the tires just comes off with no effort at all. Dennis, I think I can do it, the only hard part will be lining up the mounting plate/shield to the block because the tabs got cut off when I cut it off. It's gonna be hard not to use the new block from the Chezooom kit I just ordered I actually had the block in a baggie in the trash, I took it out, lol. I just looked at a link Casey provided in a thread about the Chezooom dragster that takes you to Model Car Builder, where they open up the kit and provide pics,.......... on the parts tree are the taillights for a '66 Barracuda! I kid you not. Plus it has the 'exact' wheels from the Hemi Hustler kit. I've got a call in to my LHS to see if they have one in stock. They do not, AND , their distributor has it on back order, so I ordered one off ebay! Edited January 4, 2015 by Speedfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Well here's the block and a couple of other things cleaned up. I think this model was put together with paint, and , a little glue. After three days in Super Clean, and , a couple of scrubbings with Comet, there is still this residue in places that would not come off. The solution? Mig Thinner and a Q-Tip, that's right. I tried sandpaper for a minute, but , then realized thinner was the way to go, works quite well, just very time consuming. That's the breaks huh? Here's the proof: The crime scene: You can see the residue on the rearend and the sub-frame, after 45yrs this stuff still wants to hang around: A little closer look at the sub-frame; You can also see where I'm going to have to drill out the locating pins and place new ones for the rear-end: The thick of it; Can someone please explain to me why you would put globs of paint ' inside ' the rear-end? " Did you run out of glue? It's a new day!!!!!!!!! Life after the crime! (Notice the HUGE extension of the front blower cover, it's just too large, and , if you trim it to fit like it should, you loose massive detail and it no longer is a front cover. I also had to trim massive amounts of plastic off the tops of the heads and the sides of the manifold to make things fit like they should, not sure what AMT had in mind when they designed this motor. Money!!!!!!!!!!!!! Another beauty shot: (Actually it's just the first mock-up, but,...it should look good painted, (Chrysler Engine Red, and , International Orange, 50/50) and, the chrome hasn't been altered at all, still like it was when I recieved the model) And to think I was ready to trash this motor, (It was actually in the trash at one point!) Shame on me! The culprits: The body should be ready in a day or so, (Most of the paint is off, but , I swear some of that paint is petrified!) I'll post pics when it's there. Enjoy!!!!!!!!!! And build!!!!!!!!!! Edit: I just noticed there are 'three' of what appear to be 'vents' in the back glass on the box art, am I the only one who's never noticed this? Edited January 8, 2015 by Speedfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Real nice results on the engine Gene. Looks like a totally new engine... I no idea why paint was in the inside of the rear end. I seen some strange things on the forums on rebuilds. Could have been a kid that built it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 I was thinking that the paint was still wet when they put the rear-end in place, lol, wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You never know what you'll find when unassembling an old Built Model / Glue Bomb. Seriously though, the engine looks really fresh, just like it was taken from a sealed kit's box. It's great that you were able to save it. I bought a Jo-Han '71 Barracuda Pro Stock Glue Bomb too... Can't wait to start making plans for it when it arrives! This build is definitely a great source of inspiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Thanks Carl, and , Niko. This car is a paint bomb! I just took the body and frame out of the SC and will start with the Q-tip/thinner thing in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Gene...really.good progress. And glad to know your Cats are supervising.....mine does the same thing. As a matter of fact, he was sitting here on my lap, making it difficult for me to type, until just a couple of minutes ago! TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Edit: I just noticed there are 'three' of what appear to be 'vents' in the back glass on the box art, am I the only one who's never noticed this? There are three per side, for six total. Two of the three on the left side align with the blower and scoop so it's hard to see them on that side. Gorgeous box art, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Thanks Tim, it's slow going but I'm getting there. Yes, I love my cats, although sometimes,....... Casey, Ya, great box art on this kit , and , I just noticed last night the vents on the other side of the rear window, making six total. TOo bad AMT didn't put those in the mold for the rear window, THAT , would have been really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w451973 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Nice save on the motor. I have a supervisor also. He likes to wait till I drop something on the floor then he goes after it. He has to inspect everything I do. He's my buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Thanks Dennis, I didn't think it was savable, but, what do I know! I need a supervisor much of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Here's what the body looks like now after going over the paint that remained with Q-tips and MIG thinner, (nice stuff). It still needs some touch up in places and the underside hasn't been done yet, but , it's coming along nicely. Then it's onto the normal prep stuff before painting, the body had never been prepped. The passenger side: Looking over the top (You can clearly see some of the places that need to be prepped): Drivers side: Rearend (I keep thinking that at some point that tail light is going to fall out on it's own!): Front: Inside: All in all not too bad so far. Thanks for stopping by! Edited January 10, 2015 by Speedfreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Not to bad, Man Gene your doing some impressive work on this old kit. I bet you get the inside just as clean... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrozilla Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Dude, Gene, Dude !!!!!!!!!!! Every once in a so often, I throw out my most expressive........uh, .......well, ...... expression. I have used this, maybe 5 times in 5 years. However, for sheer determination: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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