wisco8 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Hi everyone, hope everyone is having a Happy Holidays. I started out by removing all the original chrome by soaking in bleach. Then cleaned up all the parts and rechromed everything. Finished up the engines today. Here are a few pics so far. DSC06920 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC06922 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC06939 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC06953 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC06962 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr Edited December 21, 2014 by wisco8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) this ought to be great, really nice start on those engines and the restriping and rechroming. takes a lot of patience but I think it will pay off. I just finished one of these, bought off ebay, and the chassis and engines were done and done well though without any extra detailing, like I probably would have done, and you are doing. but it was built really well and strong and no excess glue or anything so I decided to keep that as it was, seeing as it was basically the running chassis. I turned to the body, molding the separate pieces together and getting a nice (though in my case incorrect shade) coat of yellow on everything. everything went well with no big surprises but there is something funny about the way it sits: way too high in the rear and it could use to slide down on the rails in front a scale 3" or so. you can look at it and see how much graceful it would be if it were nearly a half inch lower in the back (the body down on the chassis I mean). so I started thinking about how to do that and it occurred to me it was gonna be a real hairy bear, and I dropped the idea and just built it OOB. looking at it still hurts though and if you compare it to pics of the real car, the real thing was indeed much lowered down on the chassis in the rear. so what I am getting at is if you want to pursue this, now is the time to do your planning because it is gonna get severe. what I can see is to begin with the firewall needs to be relieved to let the front of the body relax a bit more than it does otherwise, and this will mean both along its sides to let the body slide down over the rails, and also in the center to clear the two engines' flywheel cover areas. but to do the back, near as I can tell, you are going to have to section it and everything in it pretty much (luckily its pretty simple) and may be able to pie-cut it in such a way you don't make the front of the interior disappear. its gonna be some amount of work but I was looking at mine last night wondering if I had it in me to start up a chassis for another try! here are some pics so maybe you can see what I mean. unfortunately I don't have a good straight on side shot where you can really see the problem. if you want let me know and I will take and post some more relevant pics. heres a direct rear shot; you can see there is ample room to lower that down and make much more of the streamlined look of the body: jb Edited December 21, 2014 by jbwelda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisco8 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 A few more pics, frame assembly and mockup test fit. DSC06975 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC06976 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC06977 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC06974 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC06973 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC06970 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisco8 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Hi JB, I removed a bit of the high rise pegs under the pit, and it sits a bit more level now. I barely have an 8th of an inch clearance but it works. Let me know what you think. this ought to be great, really nice start on those engines and the restriping and rechroming. takes a lot of patience but I think it will pay off. I just finished one of these, bought off ebay, and the chassis and engines were done and done well though without any extra detailing, like I probably would have done, and you are doing. but it was built really well and strong and no excess glue or anything so I decided to keep that as it was, seeing as it was basically the running chassis. I turned to the body, molding the separate pieces together and getting a nice (though in my case incorrect shade) coat of yellow on everything. everything went well with no big surprises but there is something funny about the way it sits: way too high in the rear and it could use to slide down on the rails in front a scale 3" or so. you can look at it and see how much graceful it would be if it were nearly a half inch lower in the back (the body down on the chassis I mean). so I started thinking about how to do that and it occurred to me it was gonna be a real hairy bear, and I dropped the idea and just built it OOB. looking at it still hurts though and if you compare it to pics of the real car, the real thing was indeed much lowered down on the chassis in the rear. so what I am getting at is if you want to pursue this, now is the time to do your planning because it is gonna get severe. what I can see is to begin with the firewall needs to be relieved to let the front of the body relax a bit more than it does otherwise, and this will mean both along its sides to let the body slide down over the rails, and also in the center to clear the two engines' flywheel cover areas. but to do the back, near as I can tell, you are going to have to section it and everything in it pretty much (luckily its pretty simple) and may be able to pie-cut it in such a way you don't make the front of the interior disappear. its gonna be some amount of work but I was looking at mine last night wondering if I had it in me to start up a chassis for another try! here are some pics so maybe you can see what I mean. unfortunately I don't have a good straight on side shot where you can really see the problem. if you want let me know and I will take and post some more relevant pics. heres a direct rear shot; you can see there is ample room to lower that down and make much more of the streamlined look of the body: jb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 yeah I did that too but it turned out that the interior was the limiting factor. that and the engines being in place on mine already. anyway keep an eye out for it, I am hoping it turns out good, those engines sure look nice and your chassis very cleanly constructed. its amazing how kool and detailed these old Roth kits are once you get through the fiddlyness factor. I am building a Road Agent right now, I have a build thread on it here but haven't updated it in a while. jb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisco8 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 yeah I did that too but it turned out that the interior was the limiting factor. that and the engines being in place on mine already. anyway keep an eye out for it, I am hoping it turns out good, those engines sure look nice and your chassis very cleanly constructed. its amazing how kool and detailed these old Roth kits are once you get through the fiddlyness factor. I am building a Road Agent right now, I have a build thread on it here but haven't updated it in a while. jb Cool JB, I will have to check out that Road Agent. Take care for now, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisco8 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 A few more pics until tomorrow, frame and engine assembly. DSC07002 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC07003 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC07004 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC07009 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisco8 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Hi everyone, a little paint added today, Tamiya X-8 with Tamiya TS 13 over that. I will polish it out in a day or so, still havent figured out how to do the fuzzy carpet inside the pit yet. DSC07016 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC07017 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC07020 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC07026 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC07036 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr DSC07033 by cook7010@sbcglobal.net2, on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennyboy Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 BEAUTIFUL paint Steve! Try some embossing powder for your carpet in the cockpit. Lay down the paint wet, sprinkle on powder, tap while upside down to remove excess, and mist on new paint layer over powder to build up carpet texture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisco8 Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 BEAUTIFUL paint Steve! Try some embossing powder for your carpet in the cockpit. Lay down the paint wet, sprinkle on powder, tap while upside down to remove excess, and mist on new paint layer over powder to build up carpet texture. Ah ha!! Thats how you guys do that carpet look. Awesome tip Ken !! Thank you bud. I will have to pay a visit to Michaels. Merry Christmas !! Steve Cook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 man that chassis looks spectacular! great paint too! any more progress to report? jb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ningoth4 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 This is a nice build of one of the classic show cars. Watching with interest! Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizio Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Very nice start, engines are amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekay Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 This is all looking fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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