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#21 mackinac359

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:47 PM

Did the cab enlarge or did just the BBC change? If they moved the bumper forward, that might account for the BBC? I'll have to go dig out the IH spec sheets..

The 1973 specs (transtar) I have show a 51" 74" and 84" cab. They also show cab raised 5" for Cummins VT903 NTC350 NTA370 and Detroit diesel 8v71T. Somewhere in the late 70s, 79 maybe they went to an 88" cab. Either way the the different wheelbases are clearly a myth. Hopefully Round 2 will bring either Transtar coe back. On a side note the 5" higher cab stayed permanently for the Transtar 2.



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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:04 AM

The hobby is different for each builder. Some builders have to build as accurate as they can. Another builder will build strictly box-stock, yet another will scratchbuild the entire model while another builder wires and plumbs the model. Another modeler will weather the model to look aged. It is all in how YOU want to build it. and the look you are attempting to capture. To quote the late Phil Jensen, "I build the model so the model looks good on my shelf and in front of the lens."

Model building is a form of art expression and is not an exact science.

Tim




Wow dont we get high tech here?? Isn't model building a hobby?? Does every build have to be to factory specs?? Cant one use their ability and imagination??After all we arent going to drive these plastic models down the interstate they are just for display and personal enjoyment!! Come on people lighten up really!!!



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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:40 AM

Wow all these truck engineers on here why arent they working for Peterbilt ,Mack or Kenworth they could be millionares Plastic model trucks would be petty change???? Makes you wander!! Wander if they even drove one?? Or they even know how to start one?? I doubt it they are still trying to master the plastic industry!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hi Craig,
I'm a little confused by your post and I agree with Tim's post above. This is a hobby and everyone is free to build the model as they see fit, either box stock or super detailed. Also being one of the few people on this forum that have actually driven both the 4070A and the Transtar II cabovers, for me it's neat to see that people enjoy this hobby enough that they like to research the prototype. Not really sure why you are coming down like a ton of bricks on these guys, maybe it's just the high temperatures? but I can tell you I personally enjoy reading posts like this one and how some of the guys not only enjoy building the models, but also researching their history, good stuff :)

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:33 AM

Wow all these truck engineers on here why arent they working for Peterbilt ,Mack or Kenworth they could be millionares Plastic model trucks would be petty change???? Makes you wander!! Wander if they even drove one?? Or they even know how to start one?? I doubt it they are still trying to master the plastic industry!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow dont we get high tech here?? Isn't model building a hobby?? Does every build have to be to factory specs?? Cant one use their ability and imagination??After all we arent going to drive these plastic models down the interstate they are just for display and personal enjoyment!! Come on people lighten up really!!!



And exactly how are you contributing to this thread??????

Thank you for the info guys as I am in the process of back dating a Transtar 2 as we speak. So Craig, please refrain from pointless posts.
If you don't like what we're discussing, stop reading it and move on please. Its really simple.

I wish this board had an ignore button.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:05 AM

i have 2 of these transtars and loved the coe style to building them sometimes
dont know why but it has something
and what about the info keep it coming its intresting for everybody hoe wants make it original or strait out the box
and info if the possibility is there whit pictures [now alway,s looking on hank,s truckpictures] colours and stripes names etc
colours of engine,s ,interior etc
and some ideas from engineers came from this kind of people [talkin and sharing the ideas how do you makin that ore etc]
and the really know how it starts and drive don,t you whorry about that
and some of the guy,s there fathers ore uncle,s and family workin in that sector
i have said enough by now
keep up the good work and story,s
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:42 AM

When I back dated my Transtar 11 I used the aircan from the Astro as it was pretty close and for the bumper I used the Transtar 11 bumper, just cut it down and added some evergreen strip styrene to get the basic shape and contours of the co 4070Ahttp://Posted Image

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:50 AM

Did the cab enlarge or did just the BBC change? If they moved the bumper forward, that might account for the BBC? I'll have to go dig out the IH spec sheets..

To the best of my memory the extra 4" was to make the bunk a little roomier. The 84" cab has 4 grab handles on each side but the 88" version has 3 due to the sidebox door being further back. Overall the cab didn't seem to enlarge other than that.The Transtar series coe's weren't very roomy hence the 9600 series design. The IH coe had only minor evolution changes from the original 1965 CO4000 to the final Transtar2 1981.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:53 AM

When I back dated my Transtar 11 I used the aircan from the Astro as it was pretty close and for the bumper I used the Transtar 11 bumper, just cut it down and added some evergreen strip styrene to get the basic shape and contours of the co 4070Ahttp://Posted Image

Excellent job! Just shows the change were just evolutionary beteeen the various years.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:55 AM

The hobby is different for each builder. Some builders have to build as accurate as they can. Another builder will build strictly box-stock, yet another will scratchbuild the entire model while another builder wires and plumbs the model. Another modeler will weather the model to look aged. It is all in how YOU want to build it. and the look you are attempting to capture. To quote the late Phil Jensen, "I build the model so the model looks good on my shelf and in front of the lens."

Model building is a form of art expression and is not an exact science.

Tim

Exactly Tim. Interesting where this topic has gone from the original question.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:21 AM

Mike,
Nicely done !

Tim

When I back dated my Transtar 11 I used the aircan from the Astro as it was pretty close and for the bumper I used the Transtar 11 bumper, just cut it down and added some evergreen strip styrene to get the basic shape and contours of the co 4070Ahttp://Posted Image



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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:29 AM

When I back dated my Transtar 11 I used the aircan from the Astro as it was pretty close and for the bumper I used the Transtar 11 bumper, just cut it down and added some evergreen strip styrene to get the basic shape and contours of the co 4070Ahttp://Posted Image


Mike, that is a great looking Trash Can Barnyard Cadillac. Translation - TransCon International Harvester 4070A Cabover :) . Another item is the 9600 Series did away with the shift tower, which really helped in keeping noise and fumes out of the cab. That short gear shift in the 9600, did take a little time to get use to, but in the long run was worth it in my opinion. Also as mentioned above, the cab was a lot roomer, even though the top of the cab was just a few inches wider than the 4070A and Transtar II.

Edited by Rich_S, 19 July 2012 - 11:32 AM.


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 12:11 PM

Fantastic job there Mike. Gives me hope for mine!

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Posted 21 July 2012 - 12:17 PM

Man I'm in a state of indecision here. My first truck was a 4070A Transtar (as an O/O) and the last I drove was a 4070B Transtar II. Now I have to figure out which way I want to go with mine! :lol:

Great looking day cab Mike!
I built one a long time ago off a kit from KMart that had been resealed. Opened it and it had been painted and partially built with rear suspension parts missing. They wouldn't take it back so it ended up a daycab short wheel base like yours. That is a lot of time consuming work to get it to look right, so I can appreciate the effort that went into your build! B)

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:02 AM

transtar ll is hands down my fav c/o 77-79 .... my father drove a 78' as akid i remember it bein high ,my dad had to lift me up.he'd bring her home id just n stare at her.loved how the air cleaner went how it curved above the cab.tim thnx for all the info on the older transtars i enjoyed reading it
now to find a transtar ll in 1/24 scale hmmmm....... lots of scratch building in my future .
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:44 AM

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Did the cab enlarge or did just the BBC change? If they moved the bumper forward, that might account for the BBC? I'll have to go dig out the IH spec sheets..

these pics show the 84" and 88" cabs. The red and white truck is a 1980 with 88" cab The dk gray and white truck is a 1977 with 84" cab. (note the 84" cab has 4 grab handle while the 88" cab has 3)

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:06 AM

Somewhere (its probably long gone by now) at my uncles house, my dad built the Transtar 4070w/ the Fruehauf Reefer. Built it in honor of my grandads 1,000,000 mile safe driver award (before interstates). No one made an Emeryville, so he used the Transtar. By far the coolest cabovers of my era!!!