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That's true Tom but you're comparing apples to potatos.
Different generation trucks, different cabs.
Seems a lot of people posting in this thread are under the impression that the AMT trucks are the same generation as the ones coming from Moebius ,, that are not the same generation. No body panels are the same.
These two 'generations' share a lot more than most people think, Steve. As the owner of several of both types of these trucks I've done a lot of measuring and comparing. The cowl/windshield areas and floor pans are very close to being identical with two inches added to the cab length behind the doors/seat on the 73-up cabs. Windshields, carpets, seats and most mechanical parts (i-beams etc) interchange between these. The 67-72 dash was still used in the heavier 73-79 F600 and up series trucks and a popular swap into the older trucks is the rad support and galvanized inner fenders from the newer ones, mainly because of scarcity of the older parts.
As far as what Tom says about the AMT cab, he's right about the windshield opening being too short and I might add, the tops of the doors seem too high as well.
Those mock-ups look great, Dave. Hope those rear side marker lights don't get left on the '69 box (not that they wouldn't be easy to fill in) and the roof looks a little soft but it could be the angle the pics were taken in.
mike
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Thanks for the tip. I reposted the pic and it only came through once this time...
Gotta finish the cleanup and get back to work on the chassis. Thinking of Nascar wheels/tires; any of you guys have ideas on this?
mike
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Let's try this again... (it came through in triplicate when I first tried posting last night)
Here's a project that's been slumbering in a box for almost twenty years
Made a good start with shortening up the cab and box and patterning the paint after the 'Nite' package that Ford offered on the '91/'92 F series trucks. Got hung up on stance and wheel choice and set it aside for a while...
mike
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I've never actually had the priviledge of holding a single copy of this magazine. With the cross-border premium I guess our lhs and bookstores don't think it's worthwhile. Sure am enjoying the forum though. As for sa, my biggest disappointment was the sea change that occured about ten years ago, leaving the magazine basically an empty shell at first. I buy the odd one but more often find a quick scan at the magazine rack will suffice, especially this last year with so much repetition.
mike
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Just dug up one of my old favorites- Bill Neumann's 'Building Model Cars' from his 'Here is your Hobby' series (ca 1970)...
Some aspect of almost every model on that table was touched on by Mr Neumann in his chapters on tool selection, painting, detail work etc. Thought it was a neat pic to get the juices flowing and provoke some nostalgia. I think I've owned or built ninety percent of what's sitting there; how about you guys?
mike
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Thanks for the illustration. The old album's around here somewhere. I knew it was a coupe but would have bought the vic if it had the wheels. Got a few coupes in the stash. Marty also ran a Charger in the early 70's, found some decals for that one...
mike
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Thanks for the info on this one. i already have a couple of victorias but was willing to grab this one for the wheels. Been wanting to build the stock car pictured on Marty Robbins 'devil woman' album for years. Just about bid on one the other day.
mike
Here's a good one
What is on the Box is not in the Box..
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Speaking of Renwall engine kits, my high school auto shop teacher had one of their slant six models sitting in pieces on his bookshelf. I offered to put it back together for him and he let me. Now, thirty-odd years later I'm wishing I'd asked him for it after seeing what guys are paying for them now. And how many of you guys have seen the giant chassis kit that fits around the visible v8 or seen what kind of price guys are getting for them?
mike
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If you guys are interested in other scale representations of these trucks, check out this thresd...
http://www.fordification.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45618
mike
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I don't care what Revell did to that 57 Nomad pic, it's still my favorite, next to the original AMT 39/40 tudor and the Revell 29 pickup box. Glad you guys brought this up. AMT and Revells 60s box art is a huge draw for me. I find myself looking for affordable originals to house some of the newer releases of the same kits I have. Most box art since the 80's puts me off unless I'm just getting a builder or kit for parts; there is some truly cheesy stuff out there. One of the worst box art examples I can think of would be AMTs 1/12 64 Mustang where they used a pic of the actual model to help you decide not to buy the kit
Truth in advertising at it's finest...mike
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I am inclined to be just as fussy as some of the rivet counters on here but I've found it's not worth the stress. Just do your research and find the kits that match your experience level. R & R's stuff is quite primitive but I'm willing to work with it if it's all there is and it is just plastic after all. Another challenge to improve my skills
mike
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... the one you just scored is my most favorite kit. I actually did an article on this exact kit in Model Cars back around 1987 or so - IIRC it was pictured on the cover of that issue.
I think you'll have a ball putting this kit together. Congratulations on your score. TIMLooking forward to it, Tim, especially after reviewing your excellent gallery. Heck, any of your galleries or buildups are motivating. It unfortunately is a builtup and I can see I might need some parts. Hope maybe you can point me in the right direction for those. Also picked up a hemi hydro as well.
mike
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Better to be safe than sorry; it costs just as much to manufacture a dud as it does to make an accurate one...
Anyone remember the fiasco Lindberg had on it's hands with their '61 Impala?
mike
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Half the trucks on the line were heading for Australia at this point. Sorry the pics aren't the greatest, just about lost most of my prints to moisture when I put my collection temporarily in the back shed. Moot point now with digital cams but I was gonna say always carry extra film as you never know when you'll get a chance to take unlimited pics like this. Yes, I ran out of film too quickly...
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Some pics from the Kelowna factory before they shut it down about ten years ago...
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That Revell kit looks almost identical to this AMT kit, like the one I just scored on the big auction site
mike
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Found a good deal on one of these new falcons so I thought it would be interesting to check it out against an original 64 amt kit I've got. What I found is while the new kit is a fairly decent offshore replica of an American industrial artifact, it's a severely overpriced largely innaccurate kit that I was actually happy to resell. The body is fairly close but just seems to be missing something, like most off these offshore kits. As a friend of mine said, they seem soulless. Hard to beat the original master pattern makers from Venice and Dyersville for someone raised on american plastic. To spend 35-50 bucks on a kit that requires as much drivetrain and chassis rework/replacement for accuracy doesn't really make that much sense to me. Can understand a company seeing a hole in the marketplace and making a bid to exploit it though.
mike
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I can't remember the last kit I bought to just build as is. Ran into a couple of good deals on the kenz/leslie cougar f/c so now I've got relatively accurate logghe chassis for a dyno don comet I've been wanting to build. As the t-bolts are plentiful and cheap lately especially in the street burner series they're gonna be foundations for the 64 and 65 Comet drag cars I''m working on. Now with Moebius's pending 69/71 Ford trucks, I've finally got potential use for all the stuff I've been stockpiling in the way of drivetrain/body/4WD chassis from other truck kits...
mike
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Trying to find a source for this brush paint. Any of you guys know of any other company that makes a chrome silver that looks as good?
mike
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...and I just came across my old sae issue with someone's Montana cowboy cadillac on the cover that I've been saving for inspiration...
current issues sure don't have much
mike
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Some of those south american variations are interesting. As was mentioned before, check out fordification.com for the best info on these trucks... they've even got pics of the right hand drive australian fords on there
mike
can't forget the Mercurys either... http://www.fordification.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=35331
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Well, after no reply to four emails over the past year I guessing Randy's got a useless email server or he's not necessarily needing my business. I've discovered what I'm looking for elsewhere so best of luck to him running things that way.
mike
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Hey Perry, if you're still out there, I'm still interested in a Comet wagon. Haven't had a reply yea or nay since last Christmas....
mike
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Don't know how many of you guys have seen this, but about fifteen years ago the boys at sae put together a Ford truck model history.
http://www.fordifica...php?f=2&t=37394
Great reference.
As far as the short flareside boxes go, the design used on the sixties trucks ran from 53-72. Ford actually dropped the short flareside from 73-75 as they had widened the rear axle and frame in 73 and it no longer fit. They continued to use the eight foot flareside, though, which was wider and taller. For '76, they decided to issue a shortened version of this box. This turned out to be for one year only as the tall sides with the flared top were kind of out of proportion to the length so for 77 the box side tops were flattened out. This is the design that ran through the eighties, with only a change to the squared off fenders from the rounded ones in 80. Therefore, to build a short pre-73 flareside, the boxes from revells 56, monograms 55 and amts 53 can be used. The boxes from monograms 80-up shortbox and the revell night rider truck could be used to build an accurate 77-79 flareside with just a change of fenders.
The big block engines used from 68-72 were either the 360 or the 390. They never came with 428s stock unfortunately.
mike
Truth in advertising at it's finest...
New Moebius Ford Pick-ups 1971 Ranger XLT AND 1969 Custom SWB
in Truck Kit News & Reviews
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The frame behind the cab was two inches wider from 73-up and the wheelbase was also 2" longer, made up by adding to the cab length not the box like some guys think. They also added 2" to each side of the rear axle to finally get the rear track to match the front. That wider axle is also a popular swap, to get the wheels out further in the back. Ford actually did run that cab tank all the way to '77, but there's not many around. Steering columns are also an easy swap, especially the '78/'79 tilt columns.
mike