CJ, Someone in a previous thread told me to watch a video by chapman. I am using what he uses from the paints to thinners. I don't want to stick a decent amount of money into paints right away. I did get two bottle of the wicked paint, becuase the color was not in the fireart paints. But the cost was a huge ammount from 5.99 with the wicked stuff to 1.37 with the stuff I got. After it started to spray red the engine look better then I ever would have done. If you sugest not to use windex what do you sugest using? I am not using the paint by the model section, but the other side of the store.