Who doesn't love a mock-up? Let's see yours!

[meechum68]

8 hours ago, Kanada Kustoms said:

The three I'm currently working on:

50 Olds

53 Hudson

59 Plymouth

Love the Olds, I saw your chop steps... incredible!
 
I am doing a Hudson as well, and your so far in the weeds with this, I love it!

And that Plymouth ... sleek and low! 

[dust collectors]

Couple Anglia's, the 51 in primer should be done before the end of the month. The blue jammer I'm still sourcing parts for.

[meechum68]

Another Skyline Mockup, and it is on its wheels. 

Edited Saturday at 09:17 PM by meechum68

[Donny]

Okay, I'm new to all this - mock-ups. How far do you go with the "mock-up". Is it basically chassis - wheels - body - engine, (no real detail) to show where you are at, with your model build. This is where my confusion comes in. There is a lot of detail to be painted so I can't relate to assembling 90% of the car then pulling it apart to paint/detail then reassemble for the completion. I test fit the parts when I build, before paint and glue, where I can, but don't assemble like you guys do. Is the "mock-up" necessary or is this sort of a "fun" part of the build. I just don't understand the glueing the car together and then having to separate it again and risking damage to be repaired before the final assembly. If I can achieve something toward the finished build, I'll do it, and whilst I'm on the subject, do you just "tack" the parts with white glue and then chuck it in a sink full of water later to "melt" the glue and get it apart? Sorry for my ignorance/ lack of experience, you don't ask, you don't learn.

Don    

[meechum68]

So when I do a mock up, nothing is tacked, things are just sitting together. Some of my mockups are held together with blue painters tape, and the one I posted has the Chassis 95% done, and no engine, or interior, mainly checking ride height, etc and giving hints to the final build. 

 Hope that helps Don! 

[Donny]

19 minutes ago, meechum68 said:

So when I do a mock up, nothing is tacked, things are just sitting together. Some of my mockups are held together with blue painters tape, and the one I posted has the Chassis 95% done, and no engine, or interior, mainly checking ride height, etc and giving hints to the final build. 

 Hope that helps Don! 

Thanks Mike, so no glue. There are so many different opinions on how to do it, some of them are very basic without suspensions, so I can't work out how they keep the wheels on as shown, or do they fix them inside the body wheel wells?

[meechum68]

3 minutes ago, Donny said:

Thanks Mike, so no glue. There are so many different opinions on how to do it, some of them are very basic without suspensions, so I can't work out how they keep the wheels on as shown, or do they fix them inside the body wheel wells?

No worries, and on the wheels, I just slip them in under the wheel wells to get a general look, and note if I am changing the stance. If you find my 61 Catalina post, it's exactly how I did the wheels. Sat the body on the rears, and slipped the fronts in the wells, I will keep the front stance really similar to that.

 

[Donny]

10 minutes ago, meechum68 said:

No worries, and on the wheels, I just slip them in under the wheel wells to get a general look, and note if I am changing the stance. If you find my 61 Catalina post, it's exactly how I did the wheels. Sat the body on the rears, and slipped the fronts in the wells, I will keep the front stance really similar to that.

 

Thanks mate, sorry to be a pain, lots to learn. So I guess this mock-up thing is just to get a general idea of how it's going to look when done.

[meechum68]

3 minutes ago, Donny said:

Thanks mate, sorry to be a pain, lots to learn. So I guess this mock-up thing is just to get a general idea of how it's going to look when done.

Your welcome and not a pain. Yes its to get that general idea of how it will look, when your spitballing trying to figure out what to do with a build.

 

[FoMoCo66]

1 hour ago, Donny said:

Thanks Mike, so no glue. There are so many different opinions on how to do it, some of them are very basic without suspensions, so I can't work out how they keep the wheels on as shown, or do they fix them inside the body wheel wells?

Well it really depends on how far you go with a mock-up. I have done moch-up's at the beginning/idea stage, beginning/building stage, mid primer stage, and right before BMF. It really depends on how far you want to go. When I want to moch something up in the beginning stage it is usually friction fit, white glue, poster tack, and or tape. On the behalf of the white glue, its not very strong on the smooth kit plastic, so it will usually break right off and you can chip it away with your fingers or wash it off.

Heres a couple of my models in different stages of moch-ups.

This 34 is just the body sitting on the frame, no suspension, the wheels are just set in place on the work bench with poster tack as well. I was just playing around with this one. Also, to set ride hights in these moch ups I usually use different width tires from the parts box under the chassis. On this I used the backing of a wheel placed under the spring perch.

This 40 willys suspension is mocked together with white glue so I can get the ride hight and what tweeks are needed (turns out none ). The motor is also put together with white glue, seeing if the kitbashed parts played well with clearance.

These two are in the stage where the chassis and interior are really close to done but the bodys are in primer. these are also in paint right now also moched-up, but of course I dont have a photo.

All in all, its usually good to do moch ups of your kits with the major components, box stock or kitbashed. It for me is a necessity for kits that I know are notoriously ill fitting. Also its great for getting inspiration, seeing if wheel tire combos work with the car, or just having fun! Thanks for taking this with a grain of salt and others, please leave your imput for our friend Donny.

Elliot

Edited yesterday at 04:42 AM by FoMoCo66

[Donny]

Thanks Elliot, lots of good advice mate. So, early on in the build the major parts are sort of assembled, the small parts, intricate stuff, suspension etc come later in the mock - up. I need to build some stuff I can post here, for practice and experience, mate thanks heaps for your advice, and the pics are great, gives me some idea of what you are saying. I'm at the kit box stage as you would have already worked out 😄and to a certain extent having some hassles there. I'm finding out not everything fits as it should, all good experience. Thanks again       

Don 

[johnyrotten]

21 minutes ago, Donny said:

Thanks Elliot, lots of good advice mate. So, early on in the build the major parts are sort of assembled, the small parts, intricate stuff, suspension etc come later in the mock - up. I need to build some stuff I can post here, for practice and experience, mate thanks heaps for your advice, and the pics are great, gives me some idea of what you are saying. I'm at the kit box stage as you would have already worked out 😄and to a certain extent having some hassles there. I'm finding out not everything fits as it should, all good experience. Thanks again       

Don 

You'll come to find it's helpful, especially when you kitbash and scratch build stuff, if that's something you get in to. The majority of the kits I build are second hand, sometimes in less than steller shape,helps to spot warping and other problems. I use pins in a lot of situations for strength and positive location. Test fitting kit windows and interior tubs is a great example, two spots where interference can show up. I've had to add small blocks of styrene to the body to "lock" interior tubs in place and trim kit glass to fit better. Elliot and Micheal's examples/advice are spot on why we do that.

[TopherMcGinnis]

I like mocking them up to see if I like the direction I've started in. Wheel/tire combo, stance, fit, overall "attitude" of the build. 

Don't hesitate to ask questions, it's a great way to learn.

[Donny]

10 minutes ago, TopherMcGinnis said:

I like mocking them up to see if I like the direction I've started in. Wheel/tire combo, stance, fit, overall "attitude" of the build. 

Don't hesitate to ask questions, it's a great way to learn.

Questions? I'm glad I bought the large economy size box. I've asked a million and still have three quarters of the box left. hey, love the family portrait,  and no I'm not being a smartie, we have six dogs, all family

Don 

[Mattblack]

And of course, besides all the 'technical' reasons, sometimes if you're slogging through a build a quick mock up gives your mojo a boost.

[Donny]

8 hours ago, Mattblack said:

And of course, besides all the 'technical' reasons, sometimes if you're slogging through a build a quick mock up gives your mojo a boost.

I need one frequently

Don

[VanGoGo]

I bought this Lambo kit on eBay, turned  out to be missing quite a few parts. I also had some 40 year old Testors paint that I want to use up, so figured this was a good guinea pig...also going to be a LOW guinea pig!

[TopherMcGinnis]

That would be wicked with an 8-71 blown Eldorado 500 ci transaxle in the back.