1965 plymouth pre altered wbase a/fx

[brit]

hello gents ,starting a new project.a pre altered wheel base factory a/fx

being i missed the golden commandos kit i will use the strickler dodge for the engine/front end,differential and other race parts.just scored a NOS plymouth satelitte kit.the belvedere 1 kit has various speed parts as well..these moebius kits are pretty cool with all the extras..i love unaltered afx cars like thunderbolts,65 falcons,65 comets etc..so that is what sparked this buildup.not sure if i'll use factory sponsor/raceteam decals yet will see how it progresses.first i'll make all the parts fit,then paint etc..will keep you posted..😎

[TECHMAN]

Will be watching......   The early SS/  and  FX/  cars were some of my favorites too.  Are you building the pre-supercharged era , or the short spa when a few of the cars came up with blowers yet still maintained the full wheelbase?

DJ

[brit]

14 hours ago, TECHMAN said:

Will be watching......   The early SS/  and  FX/  cars were some of my favorites too.  Are you building the pre-supercharged era , or the short spa when a few of the cars came up with blowers yet still maintained the full wheelbase?

DJ

i was thinking hemi,but i think i want to keep the coronet awb kit intact for now..i think i will go with the crossram max wedge engine,drag wheels and slicks, so ss/ class.we'll see how it progresses.😀

[TECHMAN]

2 hours ago, brit said:

i was thinking hemi,but i think i want to keep the coronet awb kit intact for now..i think i will go with the crossram max wedge engine,drag wheels and slicks, so ss/ class.we'll see how it progresses.😀

The old Max-Wedge motors were a "force-to-be-reckoned-with",  will make a fantastic old Super/Stocker!!!!  Will be watching!!!!  Only issue:  Hemi engines were replacing Wedges in later-1964.....  (had just noticed you were using a '65 kit)   Will still make an interesting build!!!

DJ

Edited Saturday at 05:21 PM by TECHMAN
additional info

[gtx6970]

If you're wanting to be some what correct for the era

 

Max wedge was long gone by 1965.  Hemi actually took over mid year 1964 

1964s were steel head , Aluminum cross ram intake with 2 carter AFBs ( most were replaced by Hollys later in the year ) 

 

1965s were Replaced by aluminum head, magnesium  cross ram intake with 2 holly's.

 

Now, That said.  its not to say some racers were still running the max wedge at that time

So,,, then by all means . Its a model car. Build what you want.

Edited Saturday at 05:40 PM by gtx6970

[brit]

1 hour ago, gtx6970 said:

If you're wanting to be some what correct for the era

 

Max wedge was long gone by 1965.  Hemi actually took over mid year 1964 

1964s were steel head , Aluminum cross ram intake with 2 carter AFBs ( most were replaced by Hollys later in the year ) 

 

1965s were Replaced by aluminum head, magnesium  cross ram intake with 2 holly's.

 

Now, That said.  its not to say some racers were still running the max wedge at that time

So,,, then by all means . Its a model car. Build what you want.

fair enough.thank you.😀my Moebius 65 belvedere 1 kit in the pic above has a Max wedge  cross ram engine build option which isn't in the satelitte kit,so i thought i would play along..i know hemi is king but they get a bit boring in model form for me after a while..unless it's supercharged or has finned valve covers,etc..something a bit more visual.i see you are a 69/70 GTX fan.i had a blue/green 69 roadrunner-383 4speed,pop out side window car.back in the '80s,bought it cheap,beat it,broke it and moved on..loved that car.😎.the 69 GTX has always been a favourite..cheers.

[gtx6970]

1 hour ago, brit said:

fair enough.thank you.😀my Moebius 65 belvedere 1 kit in the pic above has a Max wedge  cross ram engine build option which isn't in the satelitte kit,so i thought i would play along..i know hemi is king but they get a bit boring in model form for me after a while..unless it's supercharged or has finned valve covers,etc..something a bit more visual.i see you are a 69/70 GTX fan.i had a blue/green 69 roadrunner-383 4speed,pop out side window car.back in the '80s,bought it cheap,beat it,broke it and moved on..loved that car.😎.the 69 GTX has always been a favourite..cheers.

Im die hard Mopar

 

Have owned 4 or 5 69-70 Road Runners , Including 1 A12 car and 2 different hemi cars( a 1969 and a 1970 _ , Then 4 total 1969 GTXs , ( 2 hardtops and 2 verts ) 

[brit]

2 hours ago, gtx6970 said:

Im die hard Mopar

 

Have owned 4 or 5 69-70 Road Runners , Including 1 A12 car and 2 different hemi cars( a 1969 and a 1970 _ , Then 4 total 1969 GTXs , ( 2 hardtops and 2 verts ) 

very cool.i loved the factory bare bones no frills big block 4speed format the 383 magnum option offered.mine had black interior/bucket seats,which i think were a bit heavier than the bench seat..radio delete,no console,blah blah blah.basic friday night fun.😎

[1972coronet]

A 413 / 426 Max Wedge in a '65 B-body would fall into M/P or other non-Stock classes anyhow. 

Perhaps a more obscure '64 Hemi would be the Stock Car ( NASCAR , et alia ) option ; those had a Hemi with a single-four-barrel . I've seen exactly one, and that was more than 30 years ago in a magazine. 

This'll be a fun project , @gtx6970 ! 

[TECHMAN]

OR, even maybe one of the earliest "match-race" cars, with a standard wheelbase and an injected engine......   (some rare examples may be found on the old GEORGE KLASS REMEMBERS, if you can get it to come to in the archives).  Or if you're still bent on a SS/ car, build your wedge engine as a 383.....

DJ

ps- still watching 😎

[brit]

4 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

A 413 / 426 Max Wedge in a '65 B-body would fall into M/P or other non-Stock classes anyhow. 

Perhaps a more obscure '64 Hemi would be the Stock Car ( NASCAR , et alia ) option ; those had a Hemi with a single-four-barrel . I've seen exactly one, and that was more than 30 years ago in a magazine. 

This'll be a fun project , @gtx6970 ! 

cheers.i like a cool looking barely steet legal type of car like i used to drive in my youth.sure,factory this and that is fun..but those  rare cars were just that..rare back then and unobtanium today for regular folk .so i'll build a clone and beat the bejesus out of it,rebuild and do it again,while all the collector guys stare and drool over their trailer queens...😁life's too short..my brother's 70 Dart Swinger with a 440 six pack is true testament to A body developement..😘

Edited Sunday at 04:57 AM by brit

[brit]

2 hours ago, TECHMAN said:

OR, even maybe one of the earliest "match-race" cars, with a standard wheelbase and an injected engine......   (some rare examples may be found on the old GEORGE KLASS REMEMBERS, if you can get it to come to in the archives).  Or if you're still bent on a SS/ car, build your wedge engine as a 383.....

DJ

ps- still watching 😎

I really like 383 magnum engines..small block revs with big block torque...banging gears and fun..hemis are good for speed..440s are good for street..at least in the old days..😎. i built a crazy chev 283 for kicks many years ago,4 inch bore with a stock283 forged crank..302 cubes i think..would rev to 8 g's in seconds and rip tires.old nova if i remember correctly..thats my fun..😀

Edited Sunday at 05:21 AM by brit

[brit]

On 5/31/2025 at 9:55 AM, TECHMAN said:

The old Max-Wedge motors were a "force-to-be-reckoned-with",  will make a fantastic old Super/Stocker!!!!  Will be watching!!!!  Only issue:  Hemi engines were replacing Wedges in later-1964.....  (had just noticed you were using a '65 kit)   Will still make an interesting build!!!

DJ

 

On 5/31/2025 at 10:26 AM, gtx6970 said:

If you're wanting to be some what correct for the era

 

Max wedge was long gone by 1965.  Hemi actually took over mid year 1964 

1964s were steel head , Aluminum cross ram intake with 2 carter AFBs ( most were replaced by Hollys later in the year ) 

 

1965s were Replaced by aluminum head, magnesium  cross ram intake with 2 holly's.

 

Now, That said.  its not to say some racers were still running the max wedge at that time

So,,, then by all means . Its a model car. Build what you want.

 

17 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

A 413 / 426 Max Wedge in a '65 B-body would fall into M/P or other non-Stock classes anyhow. 

Perhaps a more obscure '64 Hemi would be the Stock Car ( NASCAR , et alia ) option ; those had a Hemi with a single-four-barrel . I've seen exactly one, and that was more than 30 years ago in a magazine. 

This'll be a fun project , @gtx6970 ! 

well Gents,thank you for all the detailed advice so far.😀i raided the 65 dodge awb kit for the Hemi,Dana diff and related parts for a cross ram or injected hemi/4spd regular wb match racer.looking forward.😎

Edited Sunday at 06:11 PM by brit

[1972coronet]

23 minutes ago, brit said:

Dana diff

The Dana 60 wasn't available until the '66 model year ; '65 & earlier used the Chrysler 8.75 rear. 

Yes, many racers upgraded to the Dana (and even the Ford 9") , but I'm not so certain that that was legal in Stock classes.